House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

Previous Next Page 998 1997-98 Volume 231       Monday 20 July 1998 The House met at half-past two o’clock. The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present: Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor) Abercorn, D. Aberdare, L. Ackner, L. Addington, L. Addison, V. Ailesbury, M. Ailsa, M. Alderdice, L. Aldington, L. Alexander of Tunis, E. Allen of Abbeydale, L. Allenby of Megiddo, V. Alport, L. Amos, B. Ampthill, L. Anelay of St. Johns, B. Annaly, L. Annan, L. Archer of Sandwell, L. Ashbourne, L. Astor of Hever, L. Attlee, E. Baker of Dorking, L. Balfour, E. Barber, L. Barnett, L. Bassam of Brighton, L. Beaumont of Whitley, L. Belhaven and Stenton, L. Beloff, L. Belstead, L. Berkeley, L. Bethell, L. Biddulph, L. Biffen, L. Birdwood, L. Blackstone, B. Blackwell, L. Blatch, B. Blease, L. Bledisloe, V. Blyth, L. Borrie, L. Boston of Faversham, L. Bowness, L. Brabazon of Tara, L. Braine of Wheatley, L. Bramall, L. Brentford, V. Bridgeman, V. Brightman, L. Broadbridge, L. Brooke of Alverthorpe, L. Brooks of Tremorfa, L. Brougham and Vaux, L. Bruce of Donington, L. Bruntisfield, L. Buckinghamshire, E. Burlison, L. Burnham, L. Butterworth, L. Cadman, L. Caithness, E. Callaghan of Cardiff, L. Calverley, L. Campbell of Alloway, L. Campbell of Croy, L. Carew, L. Carlisle, E. Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L. Carnarvon, E. Carnegy of Lour, B. Carr of Hadley, L. Carter, L. Carver, L. Castle of Blackburn, B. Chalfont, L. Chalker of Wallasey, B. Chandos, V. Charteris of Amisfield, L. Chelmsford, V. Clancarty, E. Clanwilliam, E. Clark of Kempston, L. Cledwyn of Penrhos, L. Clement-Jones, L. Clinton-Davis, L. Clyde, L. Cockfield, L. Cocks of Hartcliffe, L. Coleraine, L. Colville of Culross, V. Colwyn, L. Constantine of Stanmore, L. Cooke of Thorndon, L. Cope of Berkeley, L. Courtown, E. Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L. Craig of Radley, L. Craigavon, V. Cranborne, V. Crathorne, L. Cross, V. Cuckney, L. Cullen of Ashbourne, L. Currie of Marylebone, L. Darcy de Knayth, B. David, B. Davidson, V. Davies of Coity, L. Davies of Oldham, L. Dean of Beswick, L. Dean of Harptree, L. Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Denbigh, E. Denham, L. Denton of Wakefield, B. Desai, L. Dholakia, L. Dilhorne, V. Dixon, L. Dixon-Smith, L. Donaldson of Lymington, L. Donegall, M. Donoughue, L. Dormand of Easington, L. Dubs, L. Dudley, E. Elibank, L. Elles, B. Elliott of Morpeth, L. Elton, L. Erroll, E. Evans of Parkside, L. Ewing of Kirkford, L. Exeter, Bp. Exmouth, V. Ezra, L. Falconer of Thoroton, L. Falkland, V. Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Ferrers, E. Fitt, L. Flather, B. Flowers, L. Fookes, B. Fraser of Carmyllie, L. Freeman, L. Freyberg, L. Gainford, L. Gainsborough, E. Gallacher, L. Gardner of Parkes, B. Garel-Jones, L. Geddes, L. Gilbert, L. Gilmour of Craigmillar, L. Gisborough, L. Gladwin of Clee, L. Gladwyn, L. Glenarthur, L. Glendyne, L. Glentoran, L. Goff of Chieveley, L. Gormanston, V. Goschen, V. Gould of Potternewton, B. Gowrie, E. Graham of Edmonton, L. Gray of Contin, L. Greene of Harrow Weald, L. Greenway, L. Gregson, L. Grenfell, L. Grey, E. Hacking, L. Halsbury, E. Page 999 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Hamwee, B. Hardie, L. Harding of Petherton, L. Hardwicke, E. Hardy of Wath, L. Harlech, L. Harmar-Nicholls, L. Harmsworth, L. Harris of Greenwich, L. Haskel, L. Hayhoe, L. Hayman, B. Hayter, L. Henderson of Brompton, L. Higgins, L. Hilton of Eggardon, B. Hogg of Cumbernauld, L. Holderness, L. Hollis of Heigham, B. HolmPatrick, L. Home, E. Hooper, B. Hooson, L. Hope of Craighead, L. Hothfield, L. Howell of Guildford, L. Hughes, L. Hughes of Woodside, L. Hunt of Kings Heath, L. Hunt of Wirral, L. Hurd of Westwell, L. Hussey of North Bradley, L. Hylton-Foster, B. Ilchester, E. Inchcape, E. Inglewood, L. Ironside, L. Islwyn, L. Jakobovits, L. Janner of Braunstone, L. Jay of Paddington, B. Jeger, B. Jenkin of Roding, L. Jenkins of Hillhead, L. Jenkins of Putney, L. Johnston of Rockport, L. Jopling, L. Judd, L. Kenilworth, L. Kennedy of The Shaws, B. Kennet, L. Kenyon, L. Kilbracken, L. Killearn, L. Kimball, L. Kingsdown, L. Kingsland, L. Kinloss, Ly. Kinnoull, E. Kirkhill, L. Lauderdale, E. Lawrence, L. Lawson of Blaby, L. Layton, L. Lester of Herne Hill, L. Limerick, E. Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E. Lockwood, B. Lofthouse of Pontefract, L. Long, V. Longford, E. Lovat, L. Lovell-Davis, L. Lowry, L. Lucas, L. Lucas of Chilworth, L. Ludford, B. Luke, L. Lyell, L. McCarthy, L. McColl of Dulwich, L. Macfarlane of Bearsden, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L. Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L. Mackay of Drumadoon, L. Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L. Mackie of Benshie, L. MacLaurin of Knebworth, L. Macleod of Borve, B. McNair, L. McNally, L. Maddock, B. Mallalieu, B. Mancroft, L. Mar, C. Marlesford, L. Marsh, L. Masham of Ilton, B. Mason of Barnsley, L. Massereene and Ferrard, V. Mayhew of Twysden, L. Merlyn-Rees, L. Mersey, V. Methuen, L. Miller of Hendon, B. Milner of Leeds, L. Mishcon, L. Molloy, L. Molyneaux of Killead, L. Monkswell, L. Monson, L. Montagu of Beaulieu, L. Montague of Oxford, L. Monteagle of Brandon, L. Moore of Lower Marsh, L. Moore of Wolvercote, L. Morris of Manchester, L. Mountevans, L. Mowbray and Stourton, L. Moyne, L. Munster, E. Murray of Epping Forest, L. Napier and Ettrick, L. Napier of Magdâla, L. Naseby, L. Nathan, L. Nelson, E. Newall, L. Newby, L. Newton of Braintree, L. Nicholls of Birkenhead, L. Nicholson of Winterbourne, B. Noel-Buxton, L. Norfolk, D. Northbourne, L. Northesk, E. Norton, L. O’Cathain, B. Ogmore, L. Oppenheim-Barnes, B. Orme, L. Orr-Ewing, L. Palmer, L. Park of Monmouth, B. Paul, L. Pearson of Rannoch, L. Pender, L. Perry of Southwark, B. Perry of Walton, L. Peston, L. Peyton of Yeovil, L. Pike, B. Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Pitkeathley, B. Plant of Highfield, L. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Porter of Luddenham, L. Quinton, L. Quirk, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Rankeillour, L. Rawlings, B. Razzall, L. Rea, L. Reay, L. Redesdale, L. Rees, L. Rendell of Babergh, B. Renton, L. Renwick, L. Renwick of Clifton, L. Richard, L. Richardson, L. Ridley, V. Roberts of Conwy, L. Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Rogers of Riverside, L. Rowallan, L. Runcie, L. Russell-Johnston, L. Ryder of Warsaw, B. Ryder of Wensum, L. St. Davids, V. St. John of Bletso, L. St. John of Fawsley, L. Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. Sandberg, L. Sandys, L. Savile, L. Scotland of Asthal, B. Seccombe, B. Sefton of Garston, L. Selkirk of Douglas, L. Serota, B. Sewel, L. Shannon, E. Sharples, B. Shaughnessy, L. Shepherd, L. Shore of Stepney, L. Simon, V. Simon of Glaisdale, L. Skelmersdale, L. Slim, V. Slynn of Hadley, L. Smith of Clifton, L. Page 1000 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Smith of Gilmorehill, B. Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L. Stair, E. Stallard, L. Steel of Aikwood, L. Stewartby, L. Stoddart of Swindon, L. Stone of Blackheath, L. Strabolgi, L. Strange, B. Strathcarron, L. Strathclyde, L. Sudeley, L. Swinfen, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Taverne, L. Taylor of Blackburn, L. Taylor of Warwick, L. Tebbit, L. Teviot, L. Teynham, L. Thomas of Gresford, L. Thomas of Macclesfield, L. Thomas of Swynnerton, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B. Thomson of Monifieth, L. Thurlow, L. Thurso, V. Tope, L. Tordoff, L. Trefgarne, L. Trenchard, V. Trumpington, B. Turner of Camden, B. Tweeddale, M. Ullswater, V. Vivian, L. Waddington, L. Wade of Chorlton, L. Wakeham, L. Walker of Doncaster, L. Wallace of Saltaire, L. Walton of Detchant, L. Watson of Invergowrie, L. Waverley, V. Weatherill, L. Wedgwood, L. Westbury, L. Wharton, B. Whitelaw, V. Whitty, L. Wigoder, L. Wilberforce, L. Wilcox, B. Williams of Elvel, L. Williams of Mostyn, L. Winchilsea and Nottingham, E. Wise, L. Wolfson, L. Wright of Richmond, L. Wynford, L. Young, B. Young of Dartington, L. Young of Old Scone, B. PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Exeter. 1. Lord Clement-Jones—Timothy Francis Clement-Jones Esquire, CBE, having been created Baron Clement-Jones, of Clapham in the London Borough of Lambeth, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of 17th July 1998 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Baroness Hamwee and the Lord Razzall, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute. 2. Lord Mackenzie of Framwellgate—Brian Mackenzie Esquire, OBE, having been created Baron Mackenzie of Framwellgate, of Durham in the County of Durham, for life by Letters Patent dated in the forenoon of 17th July 1998 (see appendix 2), was introduced between the Lord Dormand of Easington and the Baroness Hilton of Eggardon, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and made and subscribed the solemn affirmation pursuant to statute. 3. Lord Lovat—Simon Lord Lovat sat first in Parliament after the death of his grandfather, Simon Christopher Joseph Lord Lovat, having first taken and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute. Judicial Business 4. Dunbar Bank plc (Respondents) v. Nadeem and another (Petitioner) (lodged 17th July)—The petition of Zubaida Nadeem praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. 5. Ata and another (Petitioners) v. American Express Bank Limited (sued as American Express Bank Limited) (Respondents) (lodged 17th July)—The petition of Ali Abdel Ghani Ata and Sohair Hassan praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. 6. Zwebner and the Mortgage Corporation Limited (Respondents) and others v. Brooks & Co (a firm) (Petitioners)—The petition of Brooks & Co (a firm) praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. 7. Arrowsmith (Respondent) v. Beeston and others (Petitioners)—The petition of Dean Beeston and McLaren Foods Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. 8. Jolley (Petitioner) v. London Borough of Sutton (Respondents)—The petition of Justin Edward Jolley praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. 9. Foskett (suing on his own behalf and on behalf of all other purchasers of plots of land at Mount Eden, Herrado do Cerro Alto Diogo, Martins, Algarve, Portugal) (Original Appellant and Cross-Respondent) v. McKeown (Original Respondent) and others (A.P.) (Original Respondents and Cross-Appellants)—The original appeal and the cross-appeal were set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee. 10. Vehicle Inspectorate (Respondents) v. Nuttall (Appellant) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee. Page 1001 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top 11. Alfred McAlpine Construction Limited (Appellants) v. Panatown Limited (Respondents)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 3rd August next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed. 12. Spencer (Respondent) v. Spencer (Petitioner)—Upon application by the petitioner (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto), it was ordered that the petition be withdrawn and that there be no order as to costs. Papers 13. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table: 1. Millennium Bug—Government response to the 2nd Report of the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee Report on the Year 2000–Computer Compliance;   (3944) 2. Transport— (i) A New Deal for Transport: Better for Everyone: Government proposals; (3950) (ii) Government response to the 3rd Report of the House of Commons Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee on the Proposed Strategic Rail Authority and Railway Regulation: A New Deal for Railways. (4024) 14. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table: 1. (i) Merchant Shipping (Co-operation with Search and Rescue Services) Regulations 1998— (1692) (ii) Merchant Shipping (Distress Messages) Regulations 1998— (1691) laid under the Merchant Shipping Act 1995; 2. Housing Benefit (General) Amendment Regulations 1998, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;   (1732) 3. Education (Grants for Education Support and Training) (England) Regulations 1998 (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the Education Act 1996;   (1741) 4. Protection of Wrecks (Designation No. 2) Order 1984 (Amendment) Order 1998, laid under the Protection of Wrecks Act 1973;   (1746) 5. National Assistance (Assessment of Resources) (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 1998, laid under the National Assistance Act 1948;   (1730) 6. Financial Markets and Insolvency Regulations 1998, laid under the Companies Act 1989.   (1748) 15. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table: 1. Reports and Accounts for 1997–98, together with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General: (i) Coastguard Agency— (ii) Marine Safety Agency— (iii) Ministry of Defence Police Chief Constable— laid under the Exchequer and Audit Departments Act 1921; 2. Report and Accounts for January 1997 to March 1998 of the Criminal Cases Review Commission, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Criminal Appeal Act 1995; 3. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Northern Ireland Health & Social Services Estates Agency, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland, laid under the Exchequer and Audit (Northern Ireland) Act 1921; 4. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Gaelic Broadcasting Committee, laid under the Broadcasting Act 1990; 5. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of Highlands and Islands Enterprise, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Enterprise and New Towns (Scotland) Act 1990; 6. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Funding Agency for Schools, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Education Act 1996; 7. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Queen Elizabeth II Conference Centre, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Government Trading Funds Act 1973; Page 1002 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top 8. Accounts for 1997–98 of Scottish Homes, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Housing (Scotland) Act 1988; 9. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Cardiff Bay Development Corporation, laid under the Local Government, Planning and Land Act 1980; 10. Report for 1997–98 of the Countryside Council for Wales, laid under the Environmental Protection Act 1990; 11. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Welsh Language Board, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Welsh Language Act 1993. Select Committee Report 16. Liaison—The 2nd Report from the Select Committee was made (see appendix 3); it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 133) Public Business 17. Statute Law (Repeals) Bill [HL]—The bill was read a third time and passed and sent to the Commons. 18. Sexual Orientation Discrimination Bill [HL]—The bill was read a third time and passed and sent to the Commons. 19. National Minimum Wage Bill—The report was received; an amendment was agreed to (see division list); amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; further consideration on report was adjourned. 20. Guardsmen Fisher and Wright—It was moved by the Lord Campbell of Alloway to resolve that an Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty praying that Her Majesty should exercise the Prerogative of Mercy to release Guardsmen Fisher and Wright from mandatory life imprisonment in exceptional circumstances as other available mechanisms would unduly delay their release; after debate, the motion was agreed to and it was ordered that the Address by presented to Her Majesty by the Lords with White Staves. 21. National Minimum Wage Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; it was ordered that the bill be reprinted as amended. (HL Bill 148) The House was adjourned at sixteen minutes before eleven o’clock till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock. DIVISION NATIONAL MINIMUM WAGE BILL It was moved by the Baroness Miller of Hendon, after clause 1, to insert the new clause (Exclusions); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided: Contents.............161 Not-Contents.............103 CONTENTS Abercorn, D. Aberdare, L. Addington, L. Ailsa, M. Aldington, L. Anelay of St. Johns, B. Ashbourne, L. Astor of Hever, L. Attlee, E. Baker of Dorking, L. Balfour, E. Beaumont of Whitley, L. Belhaven and Stenton, L. Beloff, L. Belstead, L. Biddulph, L. Biffen, L. Birdwood, L. Blatch, B. Brabazon of Tara, L. Braine of Wheatley, L. Brentford, V. Bridgeman, V. Brougham and Vaux, L. Bruntisfield, L. Burnham, L. [Teller] Cadman, L. Calverley, L. Campbell of Alloway, L. Campbell of Croy, L. Carew, L. Carlisle, E. Carnegy of Lour, B. Charteris of Amisfield, L. Chelmsford, V. Clanwilliam, E. Clark of Kempston, L. Clement-Jones, L. Cockfield, L. Courtown, E. Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L. Craig of Radley, L. Cranborne, V. Cullen of Ashbourne, L. Davidson, V. Dean of Harptree, L. Denton of Wakefield, B. Dholakia, L. Page 1003 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Dilhorne, V. Dixon-Smith, L. Elibank, L. Elles, B. Elton, L. Exmouth, V. Ezra, L. Ferrers, E. Fookes, B. Fraser of Carmyllie, L. Gainford, L. Gardner of Parkes, B. Glentoran, L. Gormanston, V. Gray of Contin, L. Grey, E. Halsbury, E. Hamwee, B. Harding of Petherton, L. Harmsworth, L. Harris of Greenwich, L. Hayhoe, L. Higgins, L. Holderness, L. HolmPatrick, L. Home, E. Hothfield, L. Hunt of Wirral, L. Hylton-Foster, B. Ilchester, E. Jenkin of Roding, L. Kimball, L. Kingsland, L. Kinnoull, E. Lauderdale, E. Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E. Long, V. Lucas of Chilworth, L. Ludford, B. Luke, L. Lyell, L. McColl of Dulwich, L. MacFarlane of Bearsden, L. Macleod of Borve, B. McNair, L. McNally, L. Masham of Ilton, B. Mayhew of Twysden, L. Mersey, V. Miller of Hendon, B. Monson, L. Monteagle of Brandon, L. Mowbray and Stourton, L. Moyne, L. Munster, E. Naseby, L. Newall, L. Newby, L. Newton of Braintree, L. Nicholson of Winterbourne, B. Norfolk, D. Northesk, E. Oppenheim-Barnes, B. Orr-Ewing, L. Palmer, L. Pender, L. Perry of Southwark, B. Peyton of Yeovil, L. Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Porter of Luddenham, L. Rankeillour, L. Rawlings, B. Razzall, L. Redesdale, L. Renwick, L. Richardson, L. Roberts of Conwy, L. Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. Sandberg, L. Savile, L. Seccombe, B. Selkirk of Douglas, L. Sharples, B. Skelmersdale, L. Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L. Steel of Aikwood, L. Strange, B. Strathcarron, L. Strathclyde, L. [Teller] Sudeley, L. Swinfen, L. Tebbit, L. Teviot, L. Thomas of Gresford, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B. Thomson of Monifieth, L. Thurso, V. Tope, L. Tordoff, L. Trefgarne, L. Trumpington, B. Vivian, L. Waddington, L. Wallace of Saltaire, L. Westbury, L. Whitelaw, V. Wigoder, L. Wilcox, B. Winchilsea and Nottingham, E. Wise, L. Wynford, L. Young, B. NOT-CONTENTS Allenby of Megiddo, V. Archer of Sandwell, L. Barnett, L. Bassam of Brighton, L. Berkeley, L. Blackstone, B. Blease, L. Borrie, L. Brooks of Tremorfa, L. Bruce of Donington, L. Burlison, L. Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L. Carter, L. [Teller] Castle of Blackburn, B. Cledwyn of Penrhos, L. Clinton-Davis, L. Cocks of Hartcliffe, L. Currie of Marylebone, L. David, B. Davies of Coity, L. Dean of Beswick, L. Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Desai, L. Dixon, L. Donoughue, L. Dormand of Easington, L. Dubs, L. Evans of Parkside, L. Ewing of Kirkford, L. Falconer of Thoroton, L. Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Gallacher, L. Gilbert, L. Gilmour of Craigmillar, L. Gladwin of Clee, L. Gould of Potternewton, B. Graham of Edmonton, L. Gregson, L. Grenfell, L. Hacking, L. Hardie, L. Hardy of Wath, L. Haskel, L. Hayman, B. Henderson of Brompton, L. Hilton of Eggardon, B. Hogg of Cumbernauld, L. Hollis of Heigham, B. Hoyle, L. Hughes of Woodside, L. Hunt of Kings Heath, L. Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor) Jakobovits, L. Janner of Braunstone, L. Jay of Paddington, B. Jeger, B. Jenkins of Putney, L. Kennet, L. Kilbracken, L. Lockwood, B. Longford, E. Lovell-Davis, L. McCarthy, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller] Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L. Mason of Barnsley, L. Merlyn-Rees, L. Milner of Leeds, L. Molloy, L. Monkswell, L. Morris of Manchester, L. Murray of Epping Forest, L. Nathan, L. Orme, L. Peston, L. Plant of Highfield, L. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Rea, L. Rendell of Babergh, B. Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal) Rogers of Riverside, L. Scotland of Asthal, B. Sefton of Garston, L. Serota, B. Page 1004 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Sewel, L. Shepherd, L. Shore of Stepney, L. Simon, V. Smith of Gilmorehill, B. Stallard, L. Stoddart of Swindon, L. Stone of Blackheath, L. Strabolgi, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Taylor of Blackburn, L. Thomas of Macclesfield, L. Turner of Camden, B. Whitty, L. Williams of Elvel, L. Williams of Mostyn, L. Young of Old Scone, B. APPENDIX 1 ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Timothy Francis Clement-Jones Esquire Commander of Our Most Excellent Order of the British Empire to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Clement-Jones of Clapham in Our London Borough of Lambeth And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Clement-Jones to have and to hold unto him for his life Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the afternoon of the seventeenth day of July in the forty-seventh year of Our Reign BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL APPENDIX 2 ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Brian Mackenzie Esquire Office of our Most Excellent Order of the British Empire to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Mackenzie of Framwellgate of Durham in Our County of Durham And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Mackenzie of Framwellgate to have and to hold unto him for his life Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the forenoon of the seventeenth day of July in the forty-seventh year of Our Reign BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL APPENDIX 3 LIAISON COMMITTEE Second Report Session 1997–98 Monday 20 July 1998 By the Select Committee appointed to advise the House on the resources required for select committee work and to allocate resources between select committees; to review the select committee work of the House; to consider requests for ad hoc committees and report to the House with recommendations; to ensure effective co-ordination between the two Houses; and to consider the availability of Lords to serve on committees. Page 1005 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Order to Report Future committee activity 1. The Committee has considered two proposals for new committee activity, following the completion in January 1998 of the work of the ad hoc Committee on Public Service. The first proposal, put forward by Lord Ezra (originally in the House: see the Official Report, 1 April 1998, columns 292 and 293), is for a new committee on Overseas Trade to review developments since the last committee on that subject reported in 1985. The second proposal, put forward by Lord Barnett and Lord Peston, is for a committee to examine the operation of the Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank of England. This proposal was also raised in the House during proceedings on the Bank of England Bill: see, for example, the Official Report, 13 February 1998, column 1407. 2. We have considered these proposals against the background of our recommendation, in our Second Report, Session 1995-96, that the European Communities Committee should be able to appoint six sub-committees instead of five for an experimental period of two years from the start of the 1996–97 session. 3. We have also had in mind the possibility of other proposals for committee activity being pursued in the near future. These proposals include a committee with functions relating to human rights (as suggested in the White Paper Rights Brought Home: The Human Rights Bill (Cm. 3782), paragraph 3.6), and the possible introduction of some form of pre-legislative scrutiny. 4. In our view, both of the proposals put to us are good ones. The proposal for another committee on overseas trade has received powerful support from within and outside the House. The proposal for a committee to examine the Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank of England is an innovative one, concerned with an area of policy in which the House has a great deal of expertise and in relation to which the best means of Parliamentary scrutiny could usefully be considered. We believe that an ad hoc committee, limited to one year, would be appropriate. We doubt whether the subject matter warrants the appointment of a permanent sessional scrutiny committee, but this would be an issue which an ad hoc committee could consider. 5. We also recognise the strength of the case for the continuation of a sixth sub-committee of the European Communities Committee. Since the Committee on the Committee Work of the House (the “Jellicoe Committee”) recommended in 1992 that the number of sub-committees should be reduced from six to five, there has been a significant increase in the range of proposals considered by the Committee as the result of the creation of the Third Pillar of the European Union (Justice and Home Affairs). 6. Because of limited resources—in terms of Lords to serve on committees and staff to serve them—we cannot at this stage recommend the appointment of both proposed new committees and the continuation of the sixth sub-committee of the European Communities Committee. We therefore confine ourselves to recommending the appointment of an ad hoc committee on the Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank of England. We propose to meet again in the autumn to consider, in the light of any other proposals for committee activity which may have been taken forward in the meantime, what recommendations to make in relation to the proposed committee on Overseas Trade and the European Communities Committee.