House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

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Tuesday 28 July 1998

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Aldenham, L.
Aldington, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allen of Abbeydale, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Alport, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Arran, E.
Ashbourne, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Balfour, E.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Beaverbrook, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Beloff, L.
Berkeley, L.
Biddulph, L.
Biffen, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blackwell, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
 Braine of Wheatley, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridges, L.
Brightman, L.
Broadbridge, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carew, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carr of Hadley, L.
Carter, L.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Cavendish of Furness, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chelmsford, V.
Chesham, L.
Chichester, Bp.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clifford of Chudleigh, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Clyde, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Colwyn, L.
 Cooke of Thorndon, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Cranborne, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crickhowell, L.
Cross, V.
Cuckney, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dacre of Glanton, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Dartmouth, E.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Freyne, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Diamond, L.
Dilhorne, V.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Downshire, M.
Dubs, L.
Dundonald, E.
Dunrossil, V.
Eames, L.
Eatwell, L.
Effingham, E.
Elibank, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Ewing of Kirkford, L.
Exmouth, V.

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Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freeman, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gillmore of Thamesfield, L.
Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.
Gisborough, L.
Glasgow, E.
Glenamara, L.
Glentoran, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Gormanston, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Halsbury, E.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Hampton, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanworth, V.
Hardie, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardwicke, E.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harlech, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harmsworth, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harrowby, E.
Haskel, L.
Hattersley, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Headfort, M.
Hereford, Bp.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Home, E.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howe, E.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
 Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hutchinson of Lullington, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Inchcape, E.
Inchyra, L.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kimball, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kintore, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Kitchener, E.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Knights, L.
Knollys, V.
Laing of Dunphail, L.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Levy, L.
Lichfield, Bp.
Lincoln, Bp.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Lowry, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Ludford, B.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
Lytton, E.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McConnell, L.
Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Mackintosh of Halifax, V.
Macleod of Borve, B.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
 Mallalieu, B.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Middleton, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mills, V.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Minto, E.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monckton of Brenchley, V.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Montrose, D.
Moran, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Naseby, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norfolk, D.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Oliver of Aylmerton, L.
Onslow of Woking, L.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Orme, L.
Orr-Ewing, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Parkinson, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Pender, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Pike, B.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.

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Prior, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Pym, L.
Quinton, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rathcavan, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Rees, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Richard, L.
Ripon, Bp.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rochester, L.
Rodger of Earlsferry, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Romney, E.
Rosslyn, E.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Sainsbury, L.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sanderson of Bowden, L.
Sandford, L.
Sandwich, E.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
 Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Sempill, L.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Shannon, E.
Sharples, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Shrewsbury, E.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Simpson of Dunkeld, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stallard, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stockton, E.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strafford, E.
Strange, B.
Strathcarron, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Suffolk and Berkshire, E.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Teynham, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
 Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Thurlow, L.
Thurso, V.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Torphichen, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Varley, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Coslany, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walpole, L.
Warnock, B.
Waterford, M.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Weir, V.
Westbury, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Willoughby de Broke, L.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Wise, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Wynford, L.
Young, B.
Young of Old Scone, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chichester.

1.Baroness Buscombe—Mrs Peta Jane Buscombe, having been created Baroness Buscombe, of Goring in the County of Oxfordshire, for life by Letters Patent dated in the forenoon of 23rd July 1998 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Baroness Seccombe and the Lord Parkinson, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.
2.Lord Bach—William Stephen Goulden Bach Esquire, having been created Baron Bach, of Lutterworth in the County of Leicestershire, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of 27th July 1998 (see appendix 2), was introduced between the Lord Janner of Braunstone and the Lord Hattersley, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.
3.Leave of Absence—It was ordered that leave of absence be granted to the Lord O’Hagan for the remainder of this Parliament.

Judicial Business

4.Barclays Bank Plc (Appellants) v. Boulter and Boulter (Respondent)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

Papers

5.Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Sport—Accounts for 1997–98:
(i)English Sports Council and English Sports Council Group Consolidated;
(ii)United Kingdom Sports Council;

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2. Northern Ireland—Summary Accounts for 1996–97 of the Health and Personal Social Services and the Northern Ireland Health Promotion Agency;
 (4009)
3.Armed Forces—Report of the Review Body on Armed Forces Pay on Service Medical and Dental Officers.
 (3942)
6.Affirmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:
Draft Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 (Specified Organisations) Order 1998.
7.Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
Education (Individual Performance Information) (Identification of Individual Pupils) Regulations 1998, laid under the Education Act 1996.
8.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Report and Accounts for 1997–98, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General:
(i)Planning Inspectorate Executive Agency—
(ii)Pesticides Safety Directorate—
(iii)Meat Hygiene Service—
(iv)Central Science Laboratory—
(v)Veterinary Medicines Directorate—
laid under the Exchequer and Audit Departments Act 1921;
2.Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Environment Agency, laid under the Environment Act 1995;
3.Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Registers of Scotland, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Government Trading Funds Act 1973;
4.Report for 1997–98 of the Northern Ireland Prison Service, laid under the Prison Act (Northern Ireland) 1953;
5.Report for 1997–98 of the Public Works Loan Board, laid under the Public Works Loans Act 1875;
6.Report and Accounts for 1997 of the Church Commissioners for England, laid under the Church Commissioners Measure 1947;
7.Report for 1997–98 of the Wales Tourist Board, laid under the Development of Tourism Act 1969;
8.Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Coal Authority, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Coal Industry Act 1994.

Select Committee Reports

9.Statutory Instruments—The 43rd Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory instruments, including the following affirmative instrument:
Draft Meat and Livestock Commission Levy (Variation) Scheme (Confirmation) Order 1998;
it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 137)
10.European Communities—The following Reports from the Select Committee were made and ordered to be printed:
The Reform of the Structural Funds and the Cohesion Fund; (30th Report—HL Paper 138)
Incorporating the Schengen Acquis into the European Union. (31st Report—HL Paper 139)

Public Business

11.City of Edinburgh (Guided Busways) Order Confirmation Bill—The bill was read a third time and passed.
12.Scotland Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; an amendment was negatived; an amendment was agreed to (see division list 1); further amendments were agreed to; the question that a clause stand part of the bill was agreed to (see division list 2); the House was resumed.
13.Northern Ireland (Sentences) Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with the amendments agreed to.
14.Tamar Bridge Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with the amendments agreed to.

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15.Royal Assent—The Lord Speaker (Lord Chesham) notified the Queen’s Assent to the following Acts:
Landmines Act
16.Economic and fiscal strategy—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that this House approve the Government’s assessment as set out in the Economic and Fiscal Strategy Report 1998 and Comprehensive Spending Review for the purposes of section 5 of the European Communities (Amendment) Act 1993; after debate, the motion was agreed to.
17.Scotland Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 3); the House was resumed after Clause 53 stood part.
18.Crime and Disorder Bill [HL]—The bill was returned from the Commons with the amendments to which the Lords had disagreed not insisted on.
19.National Minimum Wage Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with certain amendments agreed to with a consequential amendment to the bill and with the remaining amendments disagreed to with reasons for such disagreement; it was ordered that the Commons amendment and the reasons be printed. (HL Bill 150)

The House was adjourned at thirteen minutes past one o’clock
in the morning of Wednesday 29th July till later the same day,
half-past ten o’clock in the morning for judicial business,
half-past two o’clock in the afternoon for public business.

DIVISIONS

Division No. 1

SCOTLAND BILL

It was moved by the Earl of Mar and Kellie, in Clause 31, page 15, line 42, to leave out subsection (2); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents.............136

Not-Contents.............119

CONTENTS

Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Ailsa, M.
Aldington, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alport, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Ampthill, L.
Balfour, E.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Beloff, L.
Blatch, B.
Boardman, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Broadbridge, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Cadman, L.
Calverley, L.
Carlisle, E.
 Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Cavendish of Furness, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Clanwilliam, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Crickhowell, L.
Dacre of Glanton, L.
Davidson, V.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Dundonald, E.
Elibank, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Falkland, V.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
 Garel-Jones, L.
Glasgow, E.
Gray of Contin, L.
Grey, E.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Hampton, L.
Hamwee, B.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Harmsworth, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Holderness, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Home, E.
Hooson, L.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howe, E.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Hylton, L.
Inchyra, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jopling, L.
Kinnoull, E.
Kintore, E.

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Lang of Monkton, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Long, V.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Ludford, B.
Lyell, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Mar and Kellie, E. [Teller]
Marlesford, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Mersey, V.
Middleton, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milverton, L.
Minto, E.
 Monckton of Brenchley, V.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Munster, E.
Naseby, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Pender, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rees, L.
Renton, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodger of Earlsferry, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
 Sanderson of Bowden, L.
Seccombe, B.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Sempill, L.
Sharples, B.
Skelmersdale, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stockton, E.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Strathcarron, L.
Swinfen, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L. [Teller]
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thurlow, L.
Thurso, V.
Tordoff, L.
Torphichen, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Weatherill, L.
Wilcox, B.
Wise, L.
Wynford, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Bach, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blease, L.
Blyth, L.
Borrie, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Carew, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Desai, L.
Diamond, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Ewing of Kirkford, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Gallacher, L.
 Gilbert, L.
Glenamara, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hacking, L.
Hardie, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Levy, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Lovell-Davis, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
 Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Nicol, B.
Orme, L.
Paul, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thornton, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Coslany, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

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Division No. 2

SCOTLAND BILL

On Question, whether Clause 34 stand part of the bill the Committee divided:

Contents.............99

Not-Contents.............83

CONTENTS

Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Bach, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blyth, L.
Borrie, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Burlison, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Castle of Blackburn, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Desai, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Gallacher, L.
 Gilbert, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hardie, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Haskel, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L. [Teller]
Hughes, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kirkhill, L.
Levy, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Monkswell, L.
 Montague of Oxford, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Nicol, B.
Orme, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rea, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
St. John of Bletso, L.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Sewel, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Simpson of Dunkeld, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thornton, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Aldenham, L.
Aldington, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Astor, V.
Balfour, E.
Blatch, B.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Brentford, V.
Cadman, L.
Calverley, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Chesham, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Coleraine, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Dartmouth, E.
Denham, L.
Dholakia, L.
 Dixon-Smith, L.
Dundonald, E.
Effingham, E.
Ellenborough, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Glasgow, E.
Gray of Contin, L.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Hampton, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hooson, L.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hylton, L.
Jopling, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kintore, E.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lawrence, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Ludford, B.
Lyell, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
 Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Mar and Kellie, E. [Teller]
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Minto, E.
Montrose, D.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Munster, E.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Newby, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Razzall, L.
Rees, L.
Renton, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sanderson of Bowden, L.

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Seccombe, B.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Sempill, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
 Stodart of Leaston, L.
Strange, B.
Thomas of Gresford, L. [Teller]
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
 Thurso, V.
Tordoff, L.
Ullswater, V.
Weir, V.
Wilcox, B.
Wynford, L.

Division No. 3

SCOTLAND BILL

It was moved by the Lord Mackay of Ardbrecknish, in Clause 41, page 19, line 5, at end to insert:

(“( ) The Parliament may change the terms “Scottish Executive” and “First Minister” to such other terms as it considers appropriate.”);

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents.............31

Not-Contents.............48

CONTENTS

Balfour, E.
Burnham, L. [Teller]
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Chesham, L.
Clyde, L.
Cranborne, V.
Cross, V.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Ellenborough, L.
 HolmPatrick, L.
Home, E.
Hooper, B.
Kintore, E.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lyell, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Mar and Kellie, E.
 Minto, E.
Montrose, D.
Mountevans, L.
Northesk, E.
Renton, L.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Sempill, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L. [Teller]
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thurso, V.

NOT-CONTENTS

Alli, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Burlison, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Desai, L.
Dubs, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Ewing of Kirkford, L.
 Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hacking, L.
Hardie, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Kirkhill, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
Monkswell, L.
 Montague of Oxford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rea, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Sewel, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Simpson of Dunkeld, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Thornton, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.

APPENDIX 1

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Mrs. Peta Jane Buscombe to the state degree style and dignity title and honour of Baroness Buscombe of Goring in Our County of Oxfordshire

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto her the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Buscombe to have and to hold unto her for her life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that she may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that she may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

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In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the forenoon of the twenty-third day of July in the forty-seventh year of Our Reign

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APPENDIX 2

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved William Stephen Goulden Bach Esquire to the state degree style and dignity title and honour of Baron Bach of Lutterworth in Our County of Leicestershire

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Bach to have and to hold unto him for his life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the afternoon of the twenty-seventh day of July in the forty-seventh year of Our Reign

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