House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98) |
Lords Journals Contents Index Alphabetical list of Lords Minutes and Order Papers |
Thursday 30 July 1998 The House met at three o’clock. The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present: Irvine of Lairg, L.
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Gardner of Parkes, B. Garel-Jones, L. Geddes, L. Geraint, L. Gilbert, L. Gisborough, L. Gladwyn, L. Glasgow, E. Glenamara, L. Glentoran, L. Goodhart, L. Gordon of Strathblane, L. Gormanston, V. Goudie, B. Gould of Potternewton, B. Graham of Edmonton, L. Grenfell, L. Grey, E. Griffiths of Fforestfach, L. Hacking, L. Halsbury, E. Hambro, L. Hamwee, B. Hanworth, V. Hardie, L. Harding of Petherton, L. Hardy of Wath, L. Harlech, L. Harmar-Nicholls, L. Harris of Greenwich, L. Harrowby, E. Haskel, L. Hayhoe, L. Hayman, B. Hayter, L. Headfort, M. Healey, L. Hilton of Eggardon, B. Hogg of Cumbernauld, L. Holderness, L. Hollis of Heigham, B. Holme of Cheltenham, L. HolmPatrick, L. Hooper, B. Hooson, L. Hope of Craighead, L. Howe, E. Howell of Guildford, L. Howie of Troon, L. Hoyle, L. Hughes, L. Hughes of Woodside, L. Hunt of Kings Heath, L. Hunt of Wirral, L. Hurd of Westwell, L. Hussey of North Bradley, L. Hylton, L. Hylton-Foster, B. Ilchester, E. Inchyra, L. Inge, L. Ironside, L. Jacobs, L. Janner of Braunstone, L. Jeffreys, L. Jeger, B. Jellicoe, E. Jenkins of Hillhead, L. Jenkins of Putney, L. |
Judd, L. Kennedy of The Shaws, B. Kennet, L. Keyes, L. Kilbracken, L. Kimball, L. Kingsland, L. Kinloss, Ly. Kinnoull, E. Kintore, E. Kirkhill, L. Kitchener, E. Knollys, V. Laming, L. Lauderdale, E. Lawrence, L. Layton, L. Levy, L. Lindsey and Abingdon, E. Lockwood, B. Lofthouse of Pontefract, L. Long, V. Longford, E. Lovell-Davis, L. Lowry, L. Lucas, L. Lucas of Chilworth, L. Ludford, B. Luke, L. Lyell, L. McCarthy, L. McConnell, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L. Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L. Mackay of Drumadoon, L. Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L. Mackie of Benshie, L. McNair, L. McNally, L. Maddock, B. Mallalieu, B. Mancroft, L. Mar, C. Mar and Kellie, E. Marlesford, L. Marsh, L. Mason of Barnsley, L. Massereene and Ferrard, V. Mayhew of Twysden, L. Merlyn-Rees, L. Merrivale, L. Mersey, V. Methuen, L. Miller of Hendon, B. Milner of Leeds, L. Milverton, L. Minto, E. Mishcon, L. Molloy, L. Molyneaux of Killead, L. Monkswell, L. Monson, L. Montague of Oxford, L. Montgomery of Alamein, V. Montrose, D. Morris of Castle Morris, L. Morris of Manchester, L. Mountevans, L. Mowbray and Stourton, L. |
Moyne, L. Moynihan, L. Munster, E. Murray of Epping Forest, L. Murton of Lindisfarne, L. Naseby, L. Nelson, E. Newall, L. Newton of Braintree, L. Nicholson of Winterbourne, B. Nicol, B. Noel-Buxton, L. Norrie, L. Northesk, E. Norton, L. O’Cathain, B. Ogmore, L. Onslow, E. Oppenheim-Barnes, B. Orme, L. Oxfuird, V. Park of Monmouth, B. Paul, L. Pender, L. Perry of Southwark, B. Perry of Walton, L. Perth, E. Peston, L. Pike, B. Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Plant of Highfield, L. Platt of Writtle, B. Plumb, L. Plummer of St. Marylebone, L. Poole, L. Prys-Davies, L. Puttnam, L. Quinton, L. Quirk, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Rankeillour, L. Rathcavan, L. Rawlings, B. Razzall, L. Rea, L. Reay, L. Rees, L. Rennell, L. Renton, L. Renwick, L. Richard, L. Roberts of Conwy, L. Rodger of Earlsferry, L. Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Rogers of Riverside, L. Roll of Ipsden, L. Rowallan, L. Russell, E. Ryder of Wensum, L. Sainsbury, L. Saint Albans, D. St. John of Bletso, L. St. John of Fawsley, L. Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. Sandberg, L. Sandford, L. Scanlon, L. Seccombe, B. |
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Sefton of Garston, L. Selborne, E. Selkirk of Douglas, L. Sempill, L. Sewel, L. Shannon, E. Shaughnessy, L. Shepherd, L. Shore of Stepney, L. Simon, V. Simon of Glaisdale, L. Simon of Highbury, L. Skelmersdale, L. Skidelsky, L. Slim, V. Smith of Clifton, L. Smith of Gilmorehill, B. Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L. Stair, E. Stallard, L. Steel of Aikwood, L. Stewartby, L. Stoddart of Swindon, L. Stone of Blackheath, L. Strabolgi, L. Strafford, E. Strange, B. |
Strathcarron, L. Strathclyde, L. Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L. Sudeley, L. Suffolk and Berkshire, E. Swansea, L. Swinfen, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Taylor of Blackburn, L. Taylor of Gryfe, L. Taylor of Warwick, L. Teynham, L. Thomas of Gresford, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L. Thomas of Macclesfield, L. Thomas of Swynnerton, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B. Thomson of Monifieth, L. Thornton, B. Thurso, V. Tollemache, L. Tomlinson, L. Tope, L. Torrington, V. Trefgarne, L. Trumpington, B. Turner of Camden, B. |
Tweeddale, M. Uddin, B. Ullswater, V. Varley, L. Vivian, L. Waddington, L. Walker of Doncaster, L. Wallace of Coslany, L. Wallace of Saltaire, L. Warnock, B. Watson of Invergowrie, L. Waverley, V. Weatherill, L. Wedderburn of Charlton, L. Westbury, L. Whaddon, L. Wharton, B. Whitty, L. Wilcox, B. Williams of Crosby, B. Williams of Elvel, L. Williams of Mostyn, L. Winchester, Bp. Windlesham, L. Wise, L. Wright of Richmond, L. Wynford, L. Young, B. Young of Old Scone, B. |
PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chichester.
| 1. | Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Monday 5th October. |
Judicial Business
| 2. | Hoechst Celanese Corporation and others (Respondents) v. BP Chemicals Limited and others (Petitioners) (lodged 23rd July)—The petition of BP Chemicals Limited and Purolite International Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. |
| 3. | B (a minor suing by his next friend the Official Solicitor) (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. East Lindsey District Council (Respondents)—The petition of the minor praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged. |
| 4. | Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 60th Report: Burton (A.P.) (Respondent) v. Mayor etc. of the London Borough of Camden (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 13th August next. |
| 5. | Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 85th Report: In re Gilligan (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—That leave to appeal be given and that the petition of appeal be lodged forthwith. In re Ellis (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—That leave to appeal be given and that the petition of appeal be lodged forthwith. |
| 6. | Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 86th Report: British Broadcasting Corporation (Respondents) v. Kelly-Phillips (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 13th August next. |
| 7. | Appeal Committee—The 93rd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made: Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Jahangir (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused. Living Waters Christian Centres Limited (Petitioners) v. Conwy County Borough Council and another (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties. |
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Papers
| 8. | Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table: |
| 1. | Films—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Italy concerning the co-production of films, together with an explanatory memorandum; |
| (4029) |
| 2. | Government—Report for 1997–98 of the Government; |
| (3969) |
| 3. | Contingent Liability—Minute by the Scottish Office Department of Health on contingent liability: commercial partnership between the Scottish National Blood Transfusion Service and the Taiwanese company Yung Shin Pharmaceuticals; |
| (—) |
| 4. | Local Government—Modern Local Government: In touch with the people: Government proposals; |
| (4014) |
| 5. | Environment—Government Response to the report of the House of Commons Environment, Transport and the Regions Committee on Sewage Treatment and Disposal; |
| (4023) |
| 6. | Prisons—Prison Statistics for 1997 for England and Wales. |
| (4017) |
| 9. | Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table: |
| 1. | Working Time Regulations 1998, laid under the European Communities Act 1972; |
| (1833) |
| 2. | Social Security (Guardian’s Allowances) Amendment Regulations 1998, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; |
| (1811) |
| 3. | Safety of Sports Grounds (Designation) Order 1998, laid under the Safety of Sports Grounds Act 1975; |
| (1845) |
| 4. (i) | Local Government (Direct Labour Organisations) (Competition) (Insolvency) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 1998— | (1805) |
| (ii) | Local Authorities (Direct Labour Organisations) (Competition) (Insolvency) (Amendment) (Wales) Regulations 1998— laid under the Local Government, Planning and Land Act 1980; | (537) |
| 5. | Foreign Satellite Service Proscription Order 1998, laid under the Broadcasting Act 1990; |
| (1865) |
| 6. | Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 (Sentence Review Commissioners) Rules 1998, laid under the Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998; |
| (1859) |
| 7. | Private Water Supplies (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1998, laid under the Water (Scotland) Act 1980; |
| (1856) |
| 8. | Houses in Multiple Occupation (Fees for Registration Schemes) (Amendment) Order 1998, laid under the Housing Act 1985; |
| (1813) |
| 9. | Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (Insolvency) (England and Wales) Order 1998, laid under the Local Government Act 1988; |
| (1806) |
| 10. | Motor Cycles (Protective Helmets) Regulations 1998, laid under the Road Traffic Act 1988. |
| (1807) |
| 10. | Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table: |
| 1. | Reports and Accounts for 1997–98, together with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General: |
| (i) | Vehicle Certification Agency— |
| (ii) | Service Children’s Education (Ministry of Defence Agency)— |
| (iii) | Student Awards Agency for Scotland— |
| (iv) | Scottish Fisheries Protection Agency— |
| (v) | Prison Service— |
| (vi) | Cadw: Welsh Historic Monuments— |
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| (vii) | Civil Service College— |
| (viii) | Office for National Statistics— |
| (ix) | National Savings— |
| (x) | Veterinary Laboratories Agency— |
| (xi) | Government Car and Despatch Agency— laid under the Exchequer and Audit Departments Act 1921; |
| 2. | Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Rate Collection Agency (Northern Ireland), together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland, laid under the Exchequer and Audit Act (Northern Ireland) 1921; |
| 3. | Accounts for 1997–98 of the School Curriculum and Assessment Authority, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Education Act 1996; |
| 4. | Export Credits Guarantee Department return on commitments and statutory limits under the Export and Investments Guarantees Act 1991 as at 31st March 1998, laid under that Act; |
| 5. | West of England Development Agency: |
| (i) | West of England: Review for 1997–98— |
| (ii) | Report and Accounts for 1997–98— laid under the Miscellaneous Finance Provisions Act 1983; |
| 6. | Report for 1997 of the Central Arbitration Committee, laid under the Employment Protection Act 1975; |
| 7. | Report for 1997–98 by the Secretaries of State for Trade and Industry, Scotland and Wales under the Industrial Development Act 1982, laid under that Act; |
| 8. | Accounts for 1997–98 of the National Portrait Gallery, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Museums and Galleries Act 1992; |
| 9. | Report and Financial Statements for 1997–98 of English Partnerships, laid under the Leasehold Reform, Housing and Urban Development Act 1993; |
| 10. | Report for 1997–98 of the Building Societies Commission, laid under the Building Societies Act 1986; |
| 11. | Report for 1997 by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport on library and information matters, laid under the Public Libraries and Museums Act 1964; |
| 12. | Parliamentary Contributory Pension Fund: |
| (i) | Accounts for 1996–97— |
| (ii) | Accounts for 1997–98— together with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Parliamentary and Other Pensions Act 1972; |
| 13. | Statement of re-appointment of a member to, and remuneration of members of, the Board of the British Tourist Authority, laid under the Development of Tourism Act 1969; |
| 14. (i) | Principal Civil Service Pension Scheme (Amendment) Scheme 1988 (No. 2)— |
| (ii) | Civil Service Compensation Scheme (Amendment) Scheme 1988 (No. 2)— laid under the Superannuation Act 1972. |
Select Committee Reports
| 11. | House of Lords’ Annual Report and Accounts—It was ordered that the Report and Accounts for the year 1997–98, as authorised by the House of Lords’ Offices Committee, be printed. (HL Paper 142) |
| 12. | Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following reports from the Select Committee were made and ordered to be printed: 29th Report, on the following Bills: Registration of Political Parties Bill; Energy Efficiency (No. 2) Bill [HL]; (HL Paper 140) 30th Report, on the following proposals for draft Deregulation Orders: Draft Deregulation (Pipe-lines) Order 1998; Draft Deregulation (Occasional Licences) Order 1998. (HL Paper 141) |
Public Business
| 13. | Scotland Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the question that a clause stand part of the bill was negatived; the House was resumed. |
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| 14. | Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 (Specified Organisations) Order 1998—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that the draft Order laid before the House on 28th July be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to. |
| 15. | Scotland Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed after amendment 279A. |
The House was adjourned at one minute before eleven o’clock
till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.