House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98) |
Lords Journals Contents Index Alphabetical list of Lords Minutes and Order Papers |
Monday 19 October 1998 The House met at half-past two o’clock. The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present: Irvine of Lairg, L.
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Dormand of Easington, L. Drogheda, E. Dubs, L. Dunrossil, V. Eatwell, L. Eccles of Moulton, B. Eden of Winton, L. Effingham, E. Elibank, L. Elles, B. Elliott of Morpeth, L. Elton, L. Ely, Bp. Enniskillen, E. Erne, E. Erroll, E. Evans of Parkside, L. Ewing of Kirkford, L. Ezra, L. Falkland, V. Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Feldman, L. Ferrers, E. Fitt, L. Flather, B. Flowers, L. Fookes, B. Fraser of Carmyllie, L. Freyberg, L. Gainford, L. Gallacher, L. Gardner of Parkes, B. Geddes, L. Geraint, L. Gilbert, L. Gladwin of Clee, L. Goodhart, L. Gordon of Strathblane, L. Gormanston, V. Goudie, B. Gould of Potternewton, B. Graham of Edmonton, L. Gray of Contin, L. Greenway, L. Gregson, L. Grenfell, L. Grey, E. Hacking, L. Halsbury, E. Hamwee, B. Hankey, L. Hanningfield, L. Hanworth, V. Hardie, L. Harding of Petherton, L. Hardy of Wath, L. Harlech, L. Harris of Greenwich, L. Haskel, L. Hayhoe, L. Hayter, L. Headfort, M. Henley, L. Higgins, L. Hilton of Eggardon, B. Hogg of Cumbernauld, L. Holderness, L. Hollis of Heigham, B. Holme of Cheltenham, L. |
HolmPatrick, L. Home, E. Hooper, B. Hooson, L. Howe, E. Howell of Guildford, L. Howie of Troon, L. Hoyle, L. Hughes, L. Hughes of Woodside, L. Hunt of Kings Heath, L. Hunt of Wirral, L. Hylton, L. Hylton-Foster, B. Inchcape, E. Inglewood, L. Ironside, L. Islwyn, L. Iveagh, E. Jacobs, L. Janner of Braunstone, L. Jay of Paddington, B. Jeger, B. Jellicoe, E. Jenkin of Roding, L. Jenkins of Hillhead, L. Jenkins of Putney, L. Jopling, L. Judd, L. Kenilworth, L. Kennet, L. Kingsland, L. Kinloss, Ly. Kinnoull, E. Kintore, E. Knight of Collingtree, B. Laming, L. Lamont of Lerwick, L. Lauderdale, E. Lawrence, L. Lawson of Blaby, L. Layton, L. Leathers, V. Leigh, L. Lincoln, Bp. Linklater of Butterstone, B. Listowel, E. Liverpool, E. Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E. Lockwood, B. Lofthouse of Pontefract, L. Long, V. Longford, E. Lovell-Davis, L. Lucas, L. Lucas of Chilworth, L. Ludford, B. Luke, L. Lyell, L. McAlpine of West Green, L. McCarthy, L. McColl of Dulwich, L. McConnell, L. McFarlane of Llandaff, B. McIntosh of Haringey, L. Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L. Mackay of Drumadoon, L. Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L. Macleod of Borve, B. |
McNair, L. McNally, L. Maddock, B. Mallalieu, B. Mancroft, L. Mar, C. Marlesford, L. Marsh, L. Masham of Ilton, B. Mason of Barnsley, L. Mayhew of Twysden, L. Merlyn-Rees, L. Merrivale, L. Mersey, V. Meston, L. Miller of Hendon, B. Milner of Leeds, L. Milverton, L. Molloy, L. Molyneaux of Killead, L. Monkswell, L. Monro of Langholm, L. Monson, L. Montague of Oxford, L. Monteagle of Brandon, L. Morris of Castle Morris, L. Morris of Manchester, L. Mottistone, L. Mountevans, L. Mowbray and Stourton, L. Moyne, L. Moynihan, L. Munster, E. Murray of Epping Forest, L. Murton of Lindisfarne, L. Napier and Ettrick, L. Naseby, L. Nelson, E. Newall, L. Newby, L. Newton of Braintree, L. Nicol, B. Noel-Buxton, L. Northesk, E. Norton, L. Nunburnholme, L. O’Cathain, B. Onslow, E. Onslow of Woking, L. Oppenheim-Barnes, B. Orme, L. Palmer, L. Park of Monmouth, B. Paul, L. Pender, L. Perry of Walton, L. Peston, L. Peyton of Yeovil, L. Phillips of Sudbury, L. Pike, B. Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Pitkeathley, B. Plant of Highfield, L. Platt of Writtle, B. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Porter of Luddenham, L. Prys-Davies, L. Puttnam, L. Quirk, L. |
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Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Rankeillour, L. Rathcavan, L. Rawlings, B. Razzall, L. Rea, L. Rees, L. Rendell of Babergh, B. Rennell, L. Renton, L. Renwick, L. Renwick of Clifton, L. Richard, L. Rix, L. Roberts of Conwy, L. Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Romney, E. Rotherwick, L. Rowallan, L. Russell-Johnston, L. Ryder of Warsaw, B. Ryder of Wensum, L. St. John of Bletso, L. St. John of Fawsley, L. Sawyer, L. Scotland of Asthal, B. Seccombe, B. Sefton of Garston, L. Selkirk of Douglas, L. Serota, B. Shannon, E. Sharp of Guildford, B. Shaughnessy, L. |
Shaw of Northstead, L. Shepherd, L. Sheppard of Liverpool, L. Shore of Stepney, L. Simon, V. Simon of Glaisdale, L. Simon of Highbury, L. Skelmersdale, L. Slim, V. Slynn of Hadley, L. Smith of Gilmorehill, B. Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L. Stallard, L. Steel of Aikwood, L. Stewartby, L. Stoddart of Swindon, L. Stone of Blackheath, L. Strabolgi, L. Strafford, E. Strange, B. Strathclyde, L. Sudeley, L. Swansea, L. Swinfen, L. Swinton, E. Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Taverne, L. Taylor of Blackburn, L. Taylor of Warwick, L. Tebbit, L. Tenby, V. Teviot, L. Thomas of Gresford, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B. |
Thornton, B. Thurlow, L. Tope, L. Tordoff, L. Trefgarne, L. Trumpington, B. Turner of Camden, B. Uddin, B. Ullswater, V. Vivian, L. Wade of Chorlton, L. Wakeham, L. Walker of Doncaster, L. Wallace of Saltaire, L. Walton of Detchant, L. Warner, L. Watson of Invergowrie, L. Weatherill, L. Wedderburn of Charlton, L. Westbury, L. Whaddon, L. Wharton, B. Wigoder, L. Wilberforce, L. Wilcox, B. Williams of Crosby, B. Williams of Elvel, L. Williams of Mostyn, L. Wilson of Tillyorn, L. Winston, L. Wise, L. Wynford, L. Young of Dartington, L. Young of Old Scone, B. |
PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Blackburn.
| 1. | Lord Lamont of Lerwick—The Right Honourable Norman Stewart Hughson Lamont, having been created Baron Lamont of Lerwick, of Lerwick in the Shetland Islands, for life by Letters Patent dated in the forenoon of 24th July 1998 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Lord St. John of Fawsley and the Lord Lawson of Blaby, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute. |
| 2. | Baroness Sharp of Guildford—Mrs. Margaret Lucy Sharp, having been created Baroness Sharp of Guildford, of Guildford in the County of Surrey, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of 1st August 1998 (see appendix 2), was introduced between the Baroness Thomas of Walliswood and the Lord Goodhart, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute. |
Judicial Business
| 3. | Regina v Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Olusanya (A.P.) (Petitioner) (lodged 5th October)—The petition of Ayoola Olusanya praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged. |
| 4. | W 1–6 (A.P.) (Respondents) v. Essex County Council and another (Appellants)—The legal aid certificates of the first, third, fourth, fifth and sixth respondents were lodged. |
| 5. | Regina v. Cambridge City Council (Respondents) ex parte Lane (A.P.) (Petitioner)—The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged. |
Papers
| 6. | Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of Her Majesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table: |
| 1. | Brent Spar—Exchange of notes between the United Kingdom and Norway concerning the disposal of the Brent Spar offshore installation; (16th October) |
| (4070) |
| 2. | Pollution—Amendment to Annex I and Adoption of Annexes VIII and IX to the Basel Convention on the Control of Transboundary Movements of Hazardous Wastes and their Disposal, together with an explanatory memorandum; (16th October) |
| (4061) |
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| 3. | Bribery—Convention on Combating Bribery of Foreign Public Officials in International Business Transactions, together with an explanatory memorandum; (16th October) |
| (3994) |
| 4. | Housing—Government Response to the Report of the House of Commons Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee on Housing. (19th October) |
| (4080) |
| 7. | Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laid before the House on 16th October, were ordered to lie on the Table: |
| 1. | Wireless Telegraphy (Citizens’ Band and Amateur Apparatus) (Various Provisions) Order 1998, laid under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 1967; |
| (2531) |
| 2. | Trade Effluent (Registers) (Scotland) Regulations 1998, laid under the Sewerage (Scotland) Act 1968. |
| (2533) |
| 8. | Affirmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table: |
| 1. | Draft Legal Advice and Assistance (Scope) (Amendment) Regulations 1998; |
| 2. | Draft Representation of the People (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Regulations 1998; |
| 3. | Draft Local Elections (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Order 1998; |
| 4. | Draft Channel 4 (Application of Excess Revenues) Order 1998. |
| 9. | Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table: |
| 1. (i) | Merchant Shipping (Passenger Ship Construction: Ships of Classes III to VI(A)) Regulations 1998— | (2515) |
| (ii) | Merchant Shipping (Passenger Ship Construction: Ships of Classes I, II, and II(A)) Regulations 1998— | (2514) |
| laid under the Merchant Shipping Act 1995; |
| 2. | Alterations in the provisions of the Highway Code, laid under the Road Traffic Act 1988; |
| 3. | Statute made by Trinity Hall, Cambridge on 14th March, laid under the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923. |
| 10. | Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table: |
| 1. | Report of the Law Commission on Consents to Prosecution: Item 11 of the Sixth Programme of Law Reform: Criminal Law, laid under the Law Commissions Act 1965; |
| 2. | Report and Accounts for 1997—98 of British Nuclear Fuels plc, laid under the Atomic Energy Authority Act 1971; |
| 3. | Report for 1997—98 of the Post Office Users’ National Council, laid under the Post Office Act 1969; |
| 4. | Companies in 1997–98, laid under the Companies Act 1985; |
| 5. | Report for 1997–98 of the National Museums and Galleries of Wales, laid under the Museums and Galleries Act 1992; |
| 6. | Report for 1997—98 of the Lottery Sports Fund for Wales, laid under the National Lottery etc. Act 1993; |
| 7. | Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Commission for the New Towns, laid under the New Towns Act 1981; |
| 8. | Financial Statements for 1997 of Severn River Crossing plc, laid under the Severn Bridges Act 1992; |
| 9. | Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Valuation Office Agency, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Exchequer and Audit Departments Act 1921; |
| 10. (i) | Financial Statements for 1997—98 of South East Regional Investment Limited— |
| (ii) | Report and Financial Statements for 1997—98 of the East of England Regional Investment Agency Limited— |
| (iii) | Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Northern Development Company— |
| (iv) | Yorkshire and Humberside Development Agency— (a) Accounts for 1997–98; (b) Report for 1998; |
| (v) | Devon and Cornwall Development International— (a) Accounts for 1997–98; (b) Report for 1998; |
| (vi) | INWARD (Agency for Investment into North West England)— (a) Accounts for 1997–98; (b) Report for 1997–98; laid under the Miscellaneous Financial Provisions Act 1983; |
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| 11. | Report for 1997—98 of Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector of Constabulary, laid under the Police Act 1996. |
Select Committee Report
| 11. | Ecclesiastical Committee—The following Measure and Report of the Ecclesiastical Committee thereon were laid before the House (Pursuant to section 4 of the Church of England Assembly (Powers) Act 1919) and ordered to be printed. Cathedrals Measure and 212th Report of the Committee thereon. (HL Papers 147–I and 147–II) |
Public Business
| 12. | Scotland Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale, on behalf of the Lord Sewel, that the amendments for the Report stage be marshalled and considered in the following order: |
| Clause 1 | Clauses 93 to 107 |
| Schedule 1 | Schedule 7 |
| Clauses 2 to 20 | Clauses 108 to 116 |
| Schedule 2 | Schedules 4 and 5 |
| Clause 21 | Clause 17 |
| Schedule 3 | Schedules 8 and 9 |
| Clauses 22 to 92 | Clauses 118 to 124; |
| Schedule 6 |
| the motion was agreed to. |
| 13. | Northern Ireland Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; an amendment was agreed to; the House was resumed for a statement; the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed. |
| 14. | Mental health legislation—The Lord Bishop of Lincoln asked Her Majesty’s Government what plans they have to amend current mental health legislation in order to assist the mentally ill living in the community; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Hunt of Kings Heath. |
| 15. | Northern Ireland Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed after clause 42 stood part. |
The House was adjourned at eighteen minutes past eleven o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.
APPENDIX 1
ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Counsellor Norman Stewart Hughson Lamont to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Lamont of Lerwick of Lerwick in the Shetland Islands
And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Lamont of Lerwick to have and to hold unto him for his life
Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy
In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the forenoon of the twenty-fourth day of July in the forty-seventh year of Our Reign
BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL
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APPENDIX 2
ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Mrs Margaret Lucy Sharp to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Sharp of Guildford of Guildford in Our County of Surrey
And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto her the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Sharp of Guildford to have and to hold unto her for her life
Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that she may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that she may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy
In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the afternoon of the first day of August in the forty-seventh year of Our Reign
BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL