House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

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Tuesday 3 November 1998

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ahmed, L.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Aldington, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allen of Abbeydale, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Arran, E.
Ashbourne, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
 Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Balfour, E.
Barber, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Beaverbrook, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Bellwin, L.
Beloff, L.
Berkeley, L.
Berners, B.
Bethell, L.
Biddulph, L.
Biffen, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
 Brabazon of Tara, L.
Brain, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Buckinghamshire, E.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Burns, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butler of Brockwell, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlisle, E.

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Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnarvon, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carr of Hadley, L.
Carrick, E.
Carter, L.
Carver, L.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chalfont, L.
Chandos, V.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chesham, L.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Clyde, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleridge, L.
Colwyn, L.
Congleton, L.
Constantine of Stanmore, L.
Cooke of Islandreagh, L.
Cooke of Thorndon, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Craigmyle, L.
Cranborne, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Croham, L.
Cross, V.
Cuckney, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Dartmouth, E.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Desai, L.
Devonport, V.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Downshire, M.
Drogheda, E.
Dundee, E.
Dundonald, E.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Eden of Winton, L.
 Elis-Thomas, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Enniskillen, E.
Erne, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Exmouth, V.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Ferrers, E.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Flowers, L.
Fookes, B.
Forbes, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freeman, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gainsborough, E.
Gallacher, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenamara, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Gormanston, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Gowrie, E.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Grimston of Westbury, L.
Hacking, L.
Halsbury, E.
Hamwee, B.
Hanningfield, L.
Hanworth, V.
Hardie, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harmsworth, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrowby, E.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Hayter, L.
Headfort, M.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
 HolmPatrick, L.
Home, E.
Hood, V.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Hothfield, L.
Howe, E.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hutton, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Inglewood, L.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Iveagh, E.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Judd, L.
Kenilworth, L.
Kennet, L.
Kenyon, L.
Kimball, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kintore, E.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Knollys, V.
Laing of Dunphail, L.
Laming, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Leathers, V.
Leigh, L.
Levy, L.
Lichfield, Bp.
Lindsay, E.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Lowry, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.

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Ludford, B.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McConnell, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McFarlane of Llandaff, B.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
Macleod of Borve, B.
McNair, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marlborough, D.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Mersey, V.
Middleton, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Monteagle of Brandon, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Montrose, D.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Morton, E.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mountgarret, V.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Napier of Magdâla, L.
Naseby, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicol, B.
Norrie, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Northfield, L.
Norton, L.
Nunburnholme, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow, E.
 Onslow of Woking, L.
Orme, L.
Oxford, Bp.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Palumbo, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Parry, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Pender, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pike, B.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Platt of Writtle, B.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quinton, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rathcavan, L.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Richard, L.
Ripon, Bp.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandwich, E.
Sandys, L.
Savile, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Selborne, E.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Sempill, L.
Serota, B.
 Sewel, L.
Shannon, E.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Stair, E.
Stallard, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strafford, E.
Strange, B.
Strathcarron, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tebbit, L.
Teviot, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Thurso, V.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Torrington, V.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Tugendhat, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Varley, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wakefield, Bp.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Westbury, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.

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Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
 Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Windlesham, L.
Winston, L.
 Wright of Richmond, L.
Wynford, L.
Young, B.
Young of Old Scone, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Lichfield.

1.Lord Brookman—David Keith Brookman Esquire, having been created Baron Brookman, of Ebbw Vale in the County of Gwent, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of 30th July 1998 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Lord Paul and the Lord Davies of Coity, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. Regina v. Bartle and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others (Appellants) ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—The appeal of the Crown Prosecution Service (on behalf of the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and the Kingdom of Spain) was presented and ordered to be prosecuted subject to the procedures applicable thereto.
3.Regina v. Evans and another and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others (Appellants) ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.
4.Regina v. Bartle and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others (Appellants) ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

Papers

5.Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:
Finance—Pre-Budget Report: Steering a stable course for lasting prosperity.
6.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Education (Grants for Education Support and Training) (England) Regulations 1998 (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 1998, laid under the Education Act 1996;
 (2698)
2.Merchant Shipping (Carriage of Nautical Publications) Regulations 1998, laid under the Merchant Shipping Act 1995.
 (2647)
7.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Scottish Transport Group, laid under the Transport Act 1962;
2.Report for 1997–98 of the English Sports Council, laid under the National Lottery etc. Act 1993;
3.Code for Fiscal Stability, laid under the Finance Act 1998.

Select Committee Reports

8.Statutory Instruments—The 46th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory instruments, including the following affirmative instruments:
Draft Education (Grammar School Ballots) Regulations 1998;
Draft Social Security (New Deal Pilot) Regulations 1998;
it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 152)
9.House of Lords’ Offices—The 7th Report from the Select Committee was made (see appendix 2); it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 153)

Public Business

10.Scotland Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were disagreed to (see division lists 1 to 3); further consideration on report was adjourned.
11.Health service help lines—The Lord Rowallan asked Her Majesty’s Government what is their long-term policy towards help lines in the field of health services; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Hayman.

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12.Scotland Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 160)

The House was adjourned at fourteen minutes before eleven o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISIONS

Division No. 1

SCOTLAND BILL

It was moved by the Lord Mackay of Drumadoon, in Schedule 5, page 68, line 21, at end to insert:

(“ . It shall not be competent for the Scottish Parliament to pass a Bill authorising the Scottish Executive to hold a poll in Scotland for the purposes of ascertaining the views of those polled as to whether or not Scotland should become independent of the United Kingdom”);

which being objected, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............103

Not-Contents.............167

CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.
Addison, V.
Ailsa, M.
Aldington, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Barber, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Berners, B.
Brentford, V.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burnham, L. [Teller]
Butterworth, L.
Cadman, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carr of Hadley, L.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chesham, L.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Dartmouth, E.
Davidson, V.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Downshire, M.
Dundee, E.
Dundonald, E.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Erne, E.
Ferrers, E.
Gainford, L.
 Gardner of Parkes, B.
Gormanston, V.
Hanningfield, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Higgins, L.
Holderness, L.
Hothfield, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Kenyon, L.
Kimball, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Knollys, V.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Lyell, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McConnell, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Mersey, V.
Middleton, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monteagle of Brandon, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Montrose, D.
Mountevans, L.
Mountgarret, V.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Munster, E.
Nelson, E.
 Newall, L.
Northesk, E.
O’Cathain, B.
Palumbo, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Pender, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Platt of Writtle, B.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Quinton, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rathcavan, L.
Rees, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandys, L.
Savile, L.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Sempill, L.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Stair, E.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Strathclyde, L. [Teller]
Swinfen, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Tugendhat, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Warnock, B.
Westbury, L.
Wynford, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Allen of Abbeydale, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
 Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Bach, L.
 Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bethell, L.
Blackstone, B.

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Blease, L.
Borrie, L.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Calverley, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carrick, E.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Craigmyle, L.
Crawley, B.
Dahrendorf, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Desai, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fitt, L.
Gainsborough, E.
Gallacher, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenamara, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hardie, L.
 Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Headfort, M.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Islwyn, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
(Lord Privy Seal)
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Kintore, E.
Laming, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Lovell-Davis, L.
McCarthy, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McFarlane of Llandaff, B.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNair, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Newby, L.
Nicol, B.
 Northfield, L.
Orme, L.
Paul, L.
Peston, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L.
Russell, E.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Sawyer, L.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Shannon, E.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Slim, V.
Stallard, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Thurso, V.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Weatherill, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Winston, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

Division No. 2

SCOTLAND BILL

It was moved by the Lord Mackay of Ardbrecknish, in Schedule 5, page 84, to leave out lines 2 to 4; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............70

Not-Contents.............127

CONTENTS

Aldington, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Ashbourne, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Biddulph, L.
Blatch, B.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bridgeman, V.
 Brougham and Vaux, L.
Burnham, L. [Teller]
Buscombe, B.
Chesham, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Craigmyle, L.
Cranborne, V.
 Crathorne, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Dundee, E.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Elton, L.
Fookes, B.
Forbes, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.

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Gardner of Parkes, B.
Glenarthur, L.
Henley, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Home, E.
Howe, E.
Hylton, L.
Kimball, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinnoull, E.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
 Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Marlesford, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton, L.
Onslow, E.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patten, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
 Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Renton, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Seccombe, B.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Sempill, L.
Sharples, B.
Skelmersdale, L.
Stewartby, L.
Strathclyde, L. [Teller]
Teviot, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wynford, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Bach, L.
Balfour, E.
Barnett, L.
Berners, B.
Blackstone, B.
Borrie, L.
Burlison, L.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chandos, V.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crawley, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Flather, B.
Gallacher, L.
 Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Hardie, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Kintore, E.
Levy, L.
Lichfield, Bp.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
 Montrose, D.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Newby, L.
Nicol, B.
Northfield, L.
Orme, L.
Parry, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Prys-Davies, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Richard, L.
Rowallan, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Sewel, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Stair, E.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strange, B.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Thurso, V.
Tomlinson, L.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Warner, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.

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Division No. 3

SCOTLAND BILL

It was moved by the Lord Mackay of Ardbrecknish, in Schedule 5, page 84, line 33, at end to insert:

(“Section 6—Euthanasia etc.

      Reservation

      Euthanasia.

      The approval, refusal of approval, or withholding of medical treatment and health care.

      The granting or withholding of consent to medical treatment and healthcare on behalf of patients who are incapable of making their own decisions.”);

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............70

Not-Contents.............131

CONTENTS

Aldington, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Berners, B.
Biddulph, L.
Blatch, B.
Bridgeman, V.
Burnham, L. [Teller]
Buscombe, B.
Byford, B.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Chesham, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Cranborne, V.
Crathorne, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Elton, L.
Fookes, B.
Forbes, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Glenarthur, L.
 Henley, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Home, E.
Howe, E.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Iveagh, E.
Kimball, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinnoull, E.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Marlesford, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Montrose, D.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Northbrook, L.
 Northesk, E.
Norton, L.
Onslow, E.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patten, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Renton, L.
Rowallan, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Seccombe, B.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Sempill, L.
Sharples, B.
Skelmersdale, L.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L. [Teller]
Teviot, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Ullswater, V.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wynford, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashbourne, L.
Astor, V.
Bach, L.
Balfour, E.
Barnett, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blease, L.
Borrie, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Burlison, L.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Castle of Blackburn, B.
 Chandos, V.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Craigavon, V.
Craigmyle, L.
Crawley, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
 Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Flather, B.
Gallacher, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Hardie, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hope of Craighead, L.

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Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hylton, L.
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Kennet, L.
Levy, L.
Lichfield, Bp.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
 Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monson, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Nicol, B.
Northfield, L.
Orme, L.
Parry, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Prys-Davies, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Richard, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Sawyer, L.
 Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Sewel, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Stair, E.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Thurso, V.
Tomlinson, L.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Warner, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.

APPENDIX 1

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved David Keith Brookman Esquire to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Brookman of Ebbw Vale in Our County of Gwent

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Brookman to have and to hold unto him for his life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the afternoon of the 30th day of July in the forty-seventh year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL

APPENDIX 2

Seventh Report from the Select Committee
on the House of Lords’ Offices

Tuesday 3rd November 1998

By the Select Committee appointed to consider the House of Lords’ Offices

Ordered to Report—

The Committee have met and been attended by the Clerk of the Parliaments and the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod.

Old Palace Yard

On 22 July the House agreed to an amendment to the Committee’s 6th Report, which required that proposals to refurbish Old Palace Yard should be referred back to the Administration and Works Sub-Committee.

The Sub-Committee have reconsidered the proposals and have had the advantage this time to hear the views of English Heritage and of Westmister City Council, who both fully support the scheme.

The Sub-Committee have again agreed the scheme put to the House in July. This provides for:

    the replacement of the tarmac surface of the whole area, including the carriage way, with granite setts (as can now be seen in position in front of Chancellor’s Gate);

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    the replacement of street furniture. This will include, among other improvements, the provision of globe lamp standards and railings to designs by Sir Charles Barry, the rationalisation of the plethora of markings and the simplification of the pedestrian crossing; and

    the elimination of car parking on the West side of Old Palace Yard, so increasing the space available to pedestrians.

The Committee wish to emphasize that the scheme is not to enhance the House of Lords car park. Indeed, the House may in future years wish, on environmental and aesthetic grounds, to reduce substantially the number of cars now able to park in front of the Palace.

Nor will the proposals impede access to the House. The refurbishment of Old Palace Yard is linked with, but is not dependent on, a wider scheme known as World Squares for All. This entails improvements for pedestrians and better urban design in adjoining areas such as Trafalgar Square. These improvements could have implications for traffic around Parliament, but any adverse consequences should not be attributed to the Committee’s proposals, which do not affetc traffic movement.

The Committee’s proposals are entirely directed to improving the environment of an historic part of London, which enjoys the status of a World Heritage Site. The cost of £2.44 million, spread over three years, should be seen in the context of the substantially greater total sum which has been spent in recent years on the exteriors of the surrounding buildings, such as Westminster Abbey, the Palace of Westminster and 6–7 Old Palace Yard. Because of the reference back to the Sub-Committee, the work cannot now begin until the summer recess 2000 and the money would therefore be spent in the financial years 2000–01, 2001–02 and 2002–03.

The Committee recommend that the scheme to refurbish Old Palace Yard, as again endorsed by the Administration and Works Sub-Committee, should be adopted.