House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)


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Wednesday 18 November 1998

The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ahmed, L.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alderdice, L.
Aldington, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Alexander of Weedon, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Arran, E.
Ashbourne, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Banbury of Southam, L.
Barnard, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Bath, M.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Beaverbrook, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Bell, L.
Beloff, L.
Belstead, L.
Berkeley, L.
Berners, B.
Bethell, L.
Biffen, L.
Blackburn, Bp.
Blackstone, B.
Blackwell, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradford, Bp.
Bragg, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridgeman, V.
Bridges, L.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Burns, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butterworth, L.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlisle, Bp.
Carlisle, E.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnarvon, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carr of Hadley, L.
Carter, L.
Carver, L.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Cavendish of Furness, L.
Chadlington, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chandos, V.
Chapple, L.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chesham, L.
Chichester, Bp.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Colville of Culross, V.
Colwyn, L.
Congleton, L.
Constantine of Stanmore, L.
Cooke of Thorndon, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.
Cowley, E.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Cranborne, V.
Cranworth, L.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Cromartie, E.
Cross, V.
Cuckney, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Freyne, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dearing, L.
Deedes, L.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Derwent, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Downshire, M.
Drogheda, E.
Dubs, L.
Dudley, E.
Dundonald, E.
Durham, Bp.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Eden of Winton, L.
Effingham, E.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Ellenborough, L.

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Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erne, E.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Ewing of Kirkford, L.
Exeter, Bp.
Exmouth, V.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Ferrers, E.
Feversham, L.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Forbes, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freeman, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gage, V.
Gainsborough, E.
Gallacher, L.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.
Gisborough, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glanusk, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Gloucester, Bp.
Goff of Chieveley, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Griffiths, L.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L.
Grimston of Westbury, L.
Hacking, L.
Haddington, E.
Halsbury, E.
Hamwee, B.
Hanworth, V.
Hardie, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harlech, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harmsworth, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of High Cross, L.
Harrowby, E.
Haskel, L.
Hattersley, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Hayter, L.
Headfort, M.
Healey, L.
Henderson of Brompton, L.
Hereford, Bp.
Hesketh, L.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollick, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Home, E.
Hood, V.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Hothfield, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Tanworth, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Huntingdon, E.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Inglewood, L.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Iveagh, E.
Jacobs, L.
James of Holland Park, B.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kelvedon, L.
Kenilworth, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Kenyon, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Killearn, L.
Kimball, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Knollys, V.
Laing of Dunphail, L.
Laming, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Layton, L.
Leathers, V.
Leigh, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Lichfield, Bp.
Limerick, E.
Lincoln, Bp.
Lindsay, E.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
London, Bp.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Lowry, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Ludford, B.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
Lytton, E.
McCarthy, L.
Macclesfield, E.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Clashfern, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
Macleod of Borve, B.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Malmesbury, E.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Merrivale, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Middleton, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monckton of Brenchley, V.
Monk Bretton, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Monteagle of Brandon, L.

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Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Moran, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Napier of Magdâla, L.
Naseby, L.
Nathan, L.
Nelson, E.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Nolan, L.
Norfolk, D.
Norrie, L.
Northbourne, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton, L.
Norton of Louth, L.
Norwich, Bp.
Nunburnholme, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Ogmore, L.
Onslow, E.
Onslow of Woking, L.
Oxford, Bp.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Pender, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillimore, L.
Pike, B.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Platt of Writtle, B.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Poole, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Prior, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rathcavan, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renton, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Renwick, L.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Richard, L.
Ripon, Bp.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Runcie, L.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Saatchi, L.
Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Saint Albans, D.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sanderson of Bowden, L.
Sandford, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scanlon, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Shannon, E.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Sheppard of Liverpool, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soper, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Southwell, Bp.
Stair, E.
Stallard, L.
Stanley of Alderley, L.
Stevens of Ludgate, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stockton, E.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strafford, E.
Strathcarron, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Tebbit, L.
Temple of Stowe, E.
Teviot, L.
Teynham, L.
Thatcher, B.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Thurlow, L.
Tomlinson, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Tryon, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Varley, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakefield, Bp.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Wedgwood, L.
Weidenfeld, L.
Weinstock, L.
Westbury, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Willoughby de Broke, L.
Winchester, Bp.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Windlesham, L.
Winston, L.
Wolfson, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young, B.
Young of Dartington, L.
Young of Graffham, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Blackburn.

Judicial Business

1.Prince Jefri Bolkiah (Appellant) v. KPMG (a firm) (Respondent)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; Counsel were heard on the form of the order; it was ordered and adjudged that the Orders of the Court of Appeal of 19th October and 5th November be set aside; that upon the respondents by their Counsel undertaking not hereafter, and whether acting by its partners, officers, servants or agents or any of them or otherwise howsoever, without the consent of the appellant to (a) use or disclose any information (whether in the form of documents or otherwise) about the appellant’s personal or financial affairs acquired by the respondents in the course of acting for the appellant or in actions 1996 folio numbers 1466, 1944 and 1934 and 1997 folio number 1962 save insofar as such information is in the public domain provided that the respondents may make such disclosure as is required (1) by any Order of a Court of competent jurisdiction or (2) by the Inland Revenue pursuant to the notices served on the respondents under Section 20 B(1) of the Taxes Management Act 1970 or any notice or notices which may hereafter be served on the respondents under Section 20(3) of that Act upon giving the appellant at least 7 days’ notice of its intention to make such disclosure or (b) direct, counsel, procure or authorise any other person, firm or company to do any of the aforesaid acts; that the respondents be restrained until trial or further Order, whether acting by their partners, officers, servants or agents or any of them or otherwise howsoever, from doing the following acts or any of them, that is to say (a) continuing to carry out the investigation known as project Gemma (being the work performed by the respondents pursuant to the letter of engagement dated 13th August 1998), or (b) carrying out any work covering any of the same subject matter as Project Gemma for the Brunei Investment Agency, or any other agency of the Government of Brunei, or any member of the Royal Family of Brunei, or any of the companies listed in the appendix to Freshfields’ letter of 7th August 1998 which was exhibited as part of exhibit CKG1 to the First Affidavit of Christopher Grierson sworn herein, or any person purporting to be their executive managers provided that the said injunction shall not prevent the respondents from continuing to provide audit services (other than the investigation of special transfers from the assets of the Brunei Investment Agency) to the Brunei Investment Agency and to other interests of the Sultan of Brunei; and that the respondents do pay to the appellant his costs before Mr Justice Pumfrey, in the Court of Appeal and in this House; such costs to include provision for three Counsel in the Court of Appeal and in this House, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.
2.Regina v. Governor of Her Majesty’s Prison Brockhill (Appellant) ex parte Evans (Respondent)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 14th December next (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.
The House was resumed.

Papers

3.Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Monopolies and Mergers Commission—ARRIVA plc and Lutonian Buses Ltd: a report on the merger situation;
 (4074)
2.Social Security—A new contract for welfare: Support in Bereavement: Government consultation document;
 (4104)
3.Education—Accounts for 1996–97 of the Northern Ireland Office Education and Library Boards;
 (4094)
4.Voluntary Sector—Compact between the Government and the Voluntary Sector in Wales.
 (4107)
4.Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
School Standards and Framework Act 1998 (Home–School Agreements) (Modification) Regulations 1998, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998.
5.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Draft Code of Practice on Intrusive Surveillance, laid under the Police Act 1997;
2.Accounts for 1997–98 of the Imperial War Museum, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Museums and Galleries Act 1992.

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Select Committee Report

6.Delegated Powers and Deregulation—A Special Report from the Select Committee was made and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 158)

Private Business

7.City of Westminster Bill [HL]:
It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the Commons message of yesterday be now considered; and that the promoters of the bill have leave to suspend any further proceedings thereon in this session in order to proceed with the bill in the next session of Parliament, notice of their intention to do so having been deposited in the Office of the Clerk of the Parliaments not later than 12 noon tomorrow;
That the bill be deposited in the Office of the Clerk of the Parliaments not later than noon on the second sitting day in the next session with a declaration annexed, signed by the agent, stating that the bill is the same in every respect as the bill at the last stage of the proceedings thereon in this House in the present session;
That the proceedings on the bill in the next session of Parliament be pro forma in regard to every stage through which the bill has passed in the present session, and that no new fees be charged to such stages;
That the Private Business Standing Orders apply to the bill in the next session only in regard to any stage through which the bill has not passed during the present session;
the motion was agreed to; it was ordered that a message be sent to the Commons to acquaint them therewith.
8.London Local Authorities Bill [HL]—A message was brought from the Commons that they concur with the Resolution of this House of 17th November.

Public Business

9.Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the motion standing in the name of the Lord Palmer be limited to 2½ hours; and that Standing Order 38(5) (Arrangement of the Order Paper) relating to the precedence of motions on Wednesdays be suspended this day; the motion was agreed to.
10.Standing Orders (Public Business)—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the Standing Orders relating to public business be amended as follows:

Standing Order 15


At end insert—
“(2) In order better to discharge his duties as a Minister of the Crown, the Lord Chancellor may, if he thinks fit, leave the Woolsack and sit in such other part of the House as he may find convenient; and in such circumstances his place on the Woolsack shall be taken by a Deputy Speaker or Deputy Chairman.”;

Standing Order 16


At end insert “or such other part of the House as he may find convenient”;
the motion was agreed to; it was ordered that the amendments be printed. (HL Paper 159)
11.House of Lords’ Offices—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the 7th Report from the Select Committee (HL Paper 153) be agreed to; then it was moved by the Lord Strabolgi as an amendment thereto after (“That”) to insert (“noting that the proposal has the support of many notable bodies, including the Royal Fine Art Commission, English Heritage, Westminster City Council, the House’s Advisory Panel on Works of Art and, on Division, a majority of the House’s Administration and Works Sub-Committee”); after debate, the amendment was (by leave of the House) withdrawn; then it was moved by the Lord Cocks of Hartcliffe as an amendment thereto to leave out all the words after (“That”) and insert (“this House declines to approve the 7th Report from the Select Committee (HL Paper 153), in view of the substantial disagreement amongst the members of the Administration and Works Sub-Committee on the question whether the scheme to refurbish Old Palace Yard be proceeded with at a cost of £2.44 million.”); the amendment was disagreed to (see division list 1); then the original motion was agreed to.
12.Registration of Political Parties Bill—The bill was read a third time; amendments were agreed to; then the bill was passed and returned to the Commons with amendments.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.
The House was resumed.

13.Security for Private Road Works (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1998—It was moved by the Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 30th June be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

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14.Channel 4 (Application of Excess Revenues) Order 1998—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 19th October be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.
15.Agriculture (2½-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Palmer that there be laid before the House papers relating to the present state of agriculture in the United Kingdom with particular reference to the upland regions and Scotland; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.
16.European Parliamentary Elections Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with their disagreement to the Lords amendments insisted on, with their amendment in lieu not insisted on but with a further amendment proposed in lieu thereof; the Commons amendment was ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 167)

The House was adjourned during pleasure.
The House was resumed.

17.European Parliamentary Elections Bill—The Commons amendment was considered forthwith; a motion that the House do insist on the Lords amendments to which the Commons have disagreed and do disagree with the Commons in their further amendment in lieu was agreed to (see division list 2); a Committee was appointed to propose a reason for such insistence and disagreement.
The Lords following were named of the Committee:
B. Blatch
L. Mackay of Ardbrecknish
L. Williams of Mostyn
The Committee reported that they had proposed the following reason:
“Because the review proposed by the Commons remains an inadequate substitute for an electoral system that allows electors to vote for the individual party candidate of their choice.”
The report was agreed to and the bill was returned to the Commons with a reason.

The House was adjourned at five minutes past nine o’clock
till tomorrow, three o’clock.

DIVISIONS

Division No. 1

HOUSE OF LORDS OFFICES COMMITTEE REPORT

It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the 7th Report from the Select Committee be agreed to; then it was moved by the Lord Cocks of Hartcliffe to leave out all the words after (“That”) and insert (“this House declines to approve the 7th Report from the Select Committee (HL Paper 153), in view of the substantial disagreement amongst the members of the Administration and Works Sub-Committee on the question whether the scheme to refurbish Old Palace Yard be proceeded with at a cost of £2.44 million.”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............52

Not-Contents.............190

CONTENTS

Ailesbury, M.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Berkeley, L. [Teller]
Berners, B.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Butterworth, L.
Cadman, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Chapple, L.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L. [Teller]
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Cross, V.
Davidson, V.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dixon, L.
Downshire, M.
Ewing of Kirkford, L.
Gallacher, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Harlech, L.
Hesketh, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hooper, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Jopling, L.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Northesk, E.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Platt of Writtle, B.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Scanlon, L.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Stockton, E.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Tebbit, L.
Turner of Camden, B.

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NOT-CONTENTS

Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Alderdice, L.
Aldington, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Bach, L.
Barnard, L.
Barnett, L.
Beaverbrook, L.
Beloff, L.
Blackburn, Bp.
Blackstone, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Borrie, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bragg, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Bridges, L.
Brightman, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burlison, L.
Burns, L.
Calverley, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carnarvon, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chorley, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Cockfield, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Cranborne, V.
Crawley, B.
Cuckney, L.
Cumberlege, B.
David, B.
Dearing, L.
Denham, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Erne, E.
Exmouth, V.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Ferrers, E.
Forbes, L.
Gainsborough, E.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Grimston of Westbury, L.
Hardie, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Hayter, L.
Headfort, M.
Henderson of Brompton, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Holderness, L.
Hothfield, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Jacobs, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
(Lord Privy Seal)
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Kenyon, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kimball, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Lauderdale, E.
Layton, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.
Lockwood, B.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Merrivale, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Monteagle of Brandon, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Munster, E.
Nicol, B.
Norfolk, D.
Northbourne, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow, E.
Paul, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rawlings, B.
Redesdale, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rowallan, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
Sanderson of Bowden, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Sharples, B.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Stair, E.
Stallard, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strafford, E.
Strathcarron, L.
Strathclyde, L. [Teller]
Sudeley, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Thurlow, L.
Tomlinson, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trumpington, B.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warnock, B.
Westbury, L.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Windlesham, L.

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Division No. 2

EUROPEAN PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS BILL

It was moved by the Lord Mackay of Ardbrecknish that this House do insist on their Amendments 1 to 4 to which the Commons have disagreed and do disagree with the Commons in their Amendment 4L in lieu thereof; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............212

Not-Contents.............183

CONTENTS

Ackner, L.
Addison, V.
Ailsa, M.
Aldington, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Ashbourne, L.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Banbury of Southam, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Bell, L.
Beloff, L.
Belstead, L.
Biffen, L.
Blackwell, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradford, Bp.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burnham, L. [Teller]
Buscombe, B.
Butterworth, L.
Cadman, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Carlisle, Bp.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carnarvon, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carr of Hadley, L.
Cavendish of Furness, L.
Chadlington, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chesham, L.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Cranborne, V.
Crickhowell, L.
Cross, V.
Cuckney, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Davidson, V.
Deedes, L.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Derwent, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Downshire, M.
Dudley, E.
Dundonald, E.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Eden of Winton, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Gage, V.
Gisborough, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Greenway, L.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L.
Haddington, E.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Harlech, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harris of High Cross, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hereford, Bp.
Hesketh, L.
Higgins, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Home, E.
Hood, V.
Hothfield, L.
Howe, E.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Inglewood, L.
Iveagh, E.
James of Holland Park, B.
Jeger, B.
Kelvedon, L.
Killearn, L.
Kimball, L.
Kingsland, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Laing of Dunphail, L.
Lawrence, L.
Leigh, L.
Limerick, E.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Long, V.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Luke, L.
Lytton, E.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Clashfern, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
Macleod of Borve, B.
Mancroft, L.
Marlesford, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merrivale, L.
Middleton, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Moran, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Napier of Magdâla, L.
Naseby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Norfolk, D.
Norrie, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton, L.
Norton of Louth, L.
Norwich, Bp.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow, E.
Onslow of Woking, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Pender, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillimore, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Poole, L.
Prior, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rathcavan, L.
Rawlings, B.
Reay, L.
Renton, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.

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Renwick, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Saatchi, L.
Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sanderson of Bowden, L.
Sandford, L.
Sandwich, E.
Seccombe, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Stevens of Ludgate, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strafford, E.
Strathclyde, L. [Teller]
Swinfen, L.
Tebbit, L.
Teviot, L.
Thatcher, B.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Ullswater, V.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wakefield, Bp.
Wakeham, L.
Warnock, B.
Waverley, V.
Weinstock, L.
Westbury, L.
Wilcox, B.
Windlesham, L.
Wolfson, L.
Young, B.
Young of Graffham, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alderdice, L.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Bath, M.
Berkeley, L.
Bethell, L.
Blackstone, B.
Borrie, L.
Bragg, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Burns, L.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Calverley, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Chandos, V.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Cooke of Thorndon, L.
Crawley, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dearing, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Feversham, L.
Freyberg, L.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanworth, V.
Hardie, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollick, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Hooson, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
(Lord Privy Seal)
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kilbracken, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Ludford, B.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Meston, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Newby, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Nicol, B.
Ogmore, L.
Paul, L.
Peston, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Richard, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Russell, E.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shepherd, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Southwell, Bp.
Stone of Blackheath, L.

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Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tordoff, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Warner, L.
Weatherill, L.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winchester, Bp.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Winston, L.