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Lord Dormand of Easington: My Lords, before my noble friend sits down, perhaps he would deal with one point. He has mentioned the SSRB. From what he said, I presume that it will be well into next year before it makes any recommendations, without any guarantee of implementation. The order we are considering tonight--which has my support--concerns an increase in salary. Can my noble friend say what the difference in dates will be? If the recommendations are approved tonight--I think the order will be approved--what will be the difference in dates between when that is implemented and the likelihood of Back Benchers receiving what might or might not be an increase?

Lord Carter: My Lords, I am afraid my noble friend will find the potential gap longer than he would like. If the order is approved this evening, the implementation will be back-dated to 1st April 1999. We are told that it will appear in the July pay cheque.

Under the previous arrangements, at the moment the SSRB is due to review the level of allowances in the year 2000 for a report early in 2001. So that would be the gap, if you like. As it stands at the moment, ministerial salaries will be back-dated to 1st April of this year and the SSRB report on allowances, which are outside this order, will not be available until early 2001.

Perhaps I should repeat the point I made earlier. The transitional House will create a new situation. I shall be surprised if a number of your Lordships do not attempt forcibly to draw this matter to the attention of the Government once the transitional House is in place.

On Question, Motion agreed to.

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