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Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Biddulph, L.
Blatch, B.
Boardman, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridgeman, V.
Burnham, L. [Teller]
Byford, B.
Carew, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Clanwilliam, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Colwyn, L.
Courtown, E.
Denham, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Dundee, E.
Elton, L.
Feldman, L.
Fookes, B.
Gray, L.
Hanningfield, L.
Henley, L. [Teller]
Higgins, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Howe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Lindsey and Abingdon, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Marlesford, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mishcon, L.
Monson, L.
Montrose, D.
Morris, L.
Mountevans, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Norrie, L.
Norton of Louth, L.
O'Cathain, B.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Platt of Writtle, B.
Rawlings, B.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Seaford, L.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Stewartby, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swinfen, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Ullswater, V.
Vivian, L.
Weatherill, L.
Wilcox, B.
Windlesham, L.
Wise, L.
Young, B.


Acton, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alderdice, L.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Barker, B.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Borrie, L.
Bragg, L.
Brett, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Burlison, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carrick, E.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Chandos, V.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Crawley, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Elder, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanworth, V.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B. (Lord Privy Seal)
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Longford, E.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McNair, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Nicol, B.
Patel, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Russell, E.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Simon, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stern, B.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Thurso, V.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Warner, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Whitty, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Mostyn, L.

Resolved in the negative, and amendment disagreed to accordingly.

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[Amendments Nos. 154 to 159 not moved.]

Clause 42 [Functions]:

[Amendments Nos. 160 to 165 not moved.]

Clause 43 [Appointment]:

[Amendments Nos. 166 to 171 not moved.]

Lord Whitty moved Amendment No. 172:

Page 24, line 43, at end insert (“except as provided by subsection (6A) below").

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendments Nos. 173 to 176 not moved.]

Lord Whitty moved Amendment No. 177:

Page 25, line 4, leave out (“arise") and insert (“occur").

The noble Lord said: My Lords, I beg to move.

Lord Lucas: My Lords, I would be grateful for a brief explanation of this amendment which I do not think has been given.

Lord Whitty: My Lords, perhaps the noble Lord would clarify whether he is referring to Amendment No. 177 which, for the elucidation of noble Lords, states:

    “leave out (“arise") and insert (“occur").

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Lord Lucas: My Lords, yes.

Lord Whitty: My Lords, I do not know how lengthy an explanation is needed. Clearly, “arise" suggests that it follows a previous reference. “Occur" means that it may occur of its own nature. That is why the change has taken place.

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendment No. 178 not moved.]

Lord Whitty moved Amendment No. 179:

Page 25, line 6, leave out (“arises") and insert (“occurs").

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendments Nos. 180 and 181 not moved.]

Lord Whitty moved Amendment No. 182:

Page 25, line 8, at end insert--
(“(6A) If a vacancy occurs in the office of Chair of the Assembly and there is a person who is the Deputy Chair of the Assembly, that person shall (subject to the other provisions of this Act or any other enactment) also be the Chair of the Assembly until such time as the vacancy is filled in accordance with subsection (6) above.").

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendments Nos. 183 and 184 not moved.]

Clause 44 [Meetings of the whole Assembly]:

Lord Whitty moved Amendment No. 185:

Page 25, line 13, at beginning insert--
(“(A1) The Assembly may hold, in addition to any meetings required to be held by or under this section or any other enactment, such other meetings as it may determine.").

The noble Lord said: My Lords, in moving Amendment No. 185 I shall speak also to Amendments Nos. 188 and 192. This group of amendments deals with the types of meetings which the assembly may hold, their frequency and the public notice.

Amendment No. 185 makes it clear that the assembly may hold any meetings it chooses in addition to statutory meetings. Amendment No. 188 should be welcomed by the noble Lords, Lord Dixon-Smith and Lord Tope. I undertook to consider their concerns that the assembly should be required to hold a monthly meeting in August. This amendment is our response to that concern.

It places the requirement to hold 12 monthly meetings with the mayor with a requirement to hold 10 such meetings in each calendar month. Amendment No. 193 provides that the meetings may be not less than 28 days apart. Amendment No. 192 requires the first of these meetings after an election to take place not less than 25 days after the date of the poll. Provision for notice for the meetings is made in Amendment No. 193. Notice is to be given and published at least 28 clear days before the meeting or as soon as practicable in advance of the first meeting after an election.

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The amendments answer queries on the previous procedure. Requiring only 10 meetings a year will enable both the assembly and the mayor to have what will undoubtedly be a well-deserved rest in August. I beg to move.

Lord Dixon-Smith : My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for responding to our points on the matter. I suspect that if the evening wears on as it looks as though it will, he will be grateful to have a break rather sooner than the next one which will arise for this House.

Lord Tope: My Lords, perhaps I may add my gratitude. The amendment is obviously necessary and sensible. Indeed, it might have been better if it was there in the first place. However, I am grateful to the Minister and hope to be even more grateful next August.

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendments Nos. 186 and 187 not moved.]

Lord Whitty moved Amendments Nos. 188 to 192:

Page 25, line 18, leave out from beginning to (“there") in line 19 and insert (“On such ten occasions in each calendar year as the Assembly may determine,").
Page 25, line 21, leave out (“Mayor's monthly written report") and insert (“written report submitted for the meeting by the Mayor").
Page 25, line 23, leave out (“question the Mayor or") and insert (“put--
(i) oral or written questions to the Mayor, and
(ii) oral questions to").
Page 25, line 25, at end insert (“; and
( ) to transact any other business on the agenda for the meeting").
Page 25, line 25, at end insert--
(“( ) The first meeting under subsection (2) above after an ordinary election shall be held not later than 25 days after the day of the poll at the election.").

On Question, amendments agreed to.

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