House of Lords Journal 234 (Session 2000-01) |
Lords Journals Contents Index Minutes and Order Papers |
Thursday 15 March 2001 The House met at three o’clock. The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present: Irvine of Lairg, L.
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Hayman, B. Henley, L. Hereford, Bp. Higgins, L. Hilton of Eggardon, B. Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L. Hogg, B. Hollis of Heigham, B. Holme of Cheltenham, L. Hooper, B. Howe, E. Howe of Aberavon, L. Howell of Guildford, L. Howells of St. Davids, B. Howie of Troon, L. Hoyle, L. Hughes of Woodside, L. Hunt of Kings Heath, L. Hurd of Westwell, L. Hussey of North Bradley, L. Hylton, L. Islwyn, L. Jacobs, L. Janner of Braunstone, L. Jauncey of Tullichettle, L. Jay of Paddington, B. Jeger, B. Jellicoe, E. Jenkin of Roding, L. Jenkins of Putney, L. Jopling, L. Judd, L. Kimball, L. King of West Bromwich, L. Kingsland, L. Kirkhill, L. Laird, L. Lamont of Lerwick, L. Lawson of Blaby, L. Layard, L. Lea of Crondall, L. Lester of Herne Hill, L. Lipsey, L. Listowel, E. Liverpool, E. Lockwood, B. Lofthouse of Pontefract, L. Longford, E. Lucas, L. Luke, L. Lyell, L. McCluskey, L. McColl of Dulwich, L. Macdonald of Tradeston, L. McFarlane of Llandaff, B. McIntosh of Haringey, L. McIntosh of Hudnall, B. Mackay of Clashfern, L. MacKenzie of Culkein, L. Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L. Mackie of Benshie, L. McNally, L. Maddock, B. Mallalieu, B. Mancroft, L. Mar, C. Mar and Kellie, E. Marlesford, L. Marsh, L. |
Masham of Ilton, B. Mason of Barnsley, L. Mayhew of Twysden, L. Merlyn-Rees, L. Methuen, L. Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B. Miller of Hendon, B. Milner of Leeds, L. Mishcon, L. Mitchell, L. Molloy, L. Molyneaux of Killead, L. Monro of Langholm, L. Monson, L. Montagu of Beaulieu, L. Moore of Wolvercote, L. Morris of Castle Morris, L. Morris of Manchester, L. Mowbray and Stourton, L. Moynihan, L. Murton of Lindisfarne, L. Naseby, L. Newby, L. Newton of Braintree, L. Nicholson of Winterbourne, B. Nicol, B. Northbrook, L. Northesk, E. Northover, B. Norton of Louth, L. Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L. O’Cathain, B. Oliver of Aylmerton, L. Onslow, E. Orme, L. Oxburgh, L. Oxfuird, V. Palmer, L. Park of Monmouth, B. Patel of Blackburn, L. Paul, L. Pearson of Rannoch, L. Peel, E. Peston, L. Phillips of Sudbury, L. Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Plant of Highfield, L. Plummer of St. Marylebone, L. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Prys-Davies, L. Puttnam, L. Quirk, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Rawlings, B. Razzall, L. Rea, L. Reay, L. Redesdale, L. Rendell of Babergh, B. Rennard, L. Renton, L. Renton of Mount Harry, L. Richard, L. Richardson of Calow, B. Rix, L. Roberts of Conwy, L. Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. |
Rogers of Riverside, L. Roll of Ipsden, L. Roper, L. Rosslyn, E. Russell, E. Ryder of Wensum, L. Sainsbury of Turville, L. St. John of Fawsley, L. Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. Sandberg, L. Sandwich, E. Sawyer, L. Scott of Needham Market, B. Seccombe, B. Selborne, E. Selsdon, L. Serota, B. Sewel, L. Sharp of Guildford, B. Shaw of Northstead, L. Shore of Stepney, L. Shutt of Greetland, L. Simon, V. Simon of Glaisdale, L. Skelmersdale, L. Slim, V. Smith of Clifton, L. Smith of Leigh, L. Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L. Southwark, Bp. Stallard, L. Stern, B. Stewartby, L. Strabolgi, L. Strange, B. Strathclyde, L. Swinfen, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Tanlaw, L. Taverne, L. Taylor of Blackburn, L. Taylor of Warwick, L. Tebbit, L. Tenby, V. Thomas of Gresford, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B. Thomson of Monifieth, L. Thornton, B. Tomlinson, L. Tope, L. Trefgarne, L. Trumpington, B. Turnberg, L. Turner of Camden, B. Uddin, B. Vivian, L. Waddington, L. Wade of Chorlton, L. Wakeham, L. Walker of Doncaster, L. Walker of Worcester, L. Wallace of Saltaire, L. Walmsley, B. Walpole, L. Walton of Detchant, L. Warner, L. Warnock, B. Watson of Richmond, L. Weatherill, L. |
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Wedderburn of Charlton, L. Whitaker, B. Whitty, L. Wigoder, L. |
Wilberforce, L. Williams of Crosby, B. Williams of Elvel, L. |
Williams of Mostyn, L. Williamson of Horton, L. Winston, L. Woolmer of Leeds, L. Wright of Richmond, L. Young of Dartington, L. |
PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Hereford.
Judicial Business
| 1. | Billington (Respondent) v. Maguire and others (Petitioners)—The petition of John Maguire and Irwell Construction Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 8th March). |
| 2. | Dubai Aluminium Company Limited v. Salaam (Original Respondent and Cross-Petitioner) and others (Original Appellants and Cross-Respondents)—The petition of Hany Salaam praying for leave to cross-appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order VII has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. |
| 3. | Regina v. London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham and others (Respondents) ex parte Trustees of CPRE, London Branch (Petitioners)—It was ordered that the petition be withdrawn and that there be no order as to costs. |
| 4. | Regina v. North West Leicestershire District Council and others (Respondents) ex parte Moses (Petitioner)—It was ordered that the petition be withdrawn and that there be no order as to costs. |
| 5. | Anyanwu (AP) and another (AP) (Appellants) v. South Bank Student Union and others (Respondents) and Commission for Racial Equality (Interveners)—The appellants’ legal aid certificates were lodged. |
Papers
| 6. | Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table: |
| 1. | Marshall Aid—Forty-seventh Annual Report of the Marshall Aid Commemoration Commission for the year ending 30 September 2000; |
| (5069) |
| 2. | Committee on Public Accounts—Treasury Minute on the Forty Fourth and Forty Fifth Reports from the Committee of Public Accounts 1999–2000. |
| (5078) |
| 7. | Affirmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table: |
Draft Local Authorities (Alternative Arrangements) (England) Regulations 2001.
| 8. | Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table: |
| 1. (i) | Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Recognition Requirements for Investment Exchanges and Clearing Houses) Regulations 2001— | (995) |
| (ii) | Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Prescribed Markets and Qualifying Investments) Order 2001— | (996) |
| laid under the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000; |
| 2. (i) | Financial Markets and Insolvency (Settlement Finality) (Amendment) Regulations 2001— | (997) |
| (ii) | Milk and Milk Products (Pupils in Educational Establishments) (England) Regulations 2001— | (994) |
| laid under the European Communities Act 1972; |
| 3. | Stakeholder Pension Schemes (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2001, laid under the Pensions Act 1995; |
| (934) |
| 4. | Occupational and Personal Pension Schemes (Perpetuities and Contracting-out) Amendment Regulations 2001, laid under the Pension Schemes Act 1993; |
| (943) |
| 5. | Social Security (Contributions) Regulations 2001, laid under the Social Security Administration Act 1992; |
| (1004) |
| 6. | New Deal (Miscellaneous Provisions) Order 2001, laid under the Employment Act 1988; |
| (970) |
| 7. | Education (Student Loans) (Repayment) (Amendment) Regulations 2001, laid under the Teaching and Higher Education Act 1998; |
| (971) |
| 8. (i) | Birmingham (Kitts Green and Shard End) Education Action Zone (Variation) Order 2001— | (972) |
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| (ii) | Bristol Education Action Zone (Variation) Order 2001— | (973) |
| (iii) | Epicentre LEAP Ellesmere Port Cheshire Education Action Zone (Amendment) Order 2001— | (1000) |
| laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998; |
| 9. (i) | Legal Advice and Assistance (Amendment No. 2) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2001— | (—) |
| (ii) | Legal Advice and Assistance (Financial Conditions) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2001— | (—) |
| (iii) | Legal Aid (Financial Conditions) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2001— | (—) |
| laid under the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981; |
| 10. | Pensions Appeals Tribunals (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Rules 2001, laid under the Schedule to the Pensions Appeal Tribunals Act 1943. |
| (—) |
| 9. | Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table: |
| 1. | Report for 2000 on the Operation of the Chemical Weapons Act 1996, laid under the Chemical Weapons Act 1996; |
| 2. (i) | Liberia (United Nations Sanctions) (Overseas Territories) Order 2001— |
| (ii) | Liberia (United Nations Sanctions) Order 2001— |
| (iii) | Liberia (United Nations Sanctions) (Isle of Man) Order 2001— |
| (iv) | Liberia (United Nations Sanctions) (Channel Islands) Order 2001— |
| laid under the United Nations Act 1946. |
Public Business
| 10. | Criminal Justice and Police Bill—A bill to make provision for combatting crime and disorder; to make provision about the disclosure of information relating to criminal matters and about powers of search and seizure; to amend the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984, the Police and Criminal Evidence (Northern Ireland) Order 1989 and the Terrorism Act 2000; to make provision about the police, the National Criminal Intelligence Service and the National Crime Squad; to make provision about the powers of the courts in relation to criminal matters; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 36) |
| 11. | Criminal Justice and Police Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 36–EN) |
| 12. | Private Security Industry Bill [HL]—The bill was read a third time; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; a privilege amendment was agreed to; then the bill was passed and sent to the Commons. |
| 13. | Health and Social Care Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list); amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed. |
| 14. | Student poverty—The Baroness Walmsley asked Her Majesty’s Government what action they propose to take to alleviate student poverty, and to address the anomalies arising between support systems in Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and England; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Davies of Oldham. |
| 15. | Health and Social Care Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; an amendment was agreed to; the House was resumed after clause 3 stood part. |
The House was adjourned at nineteen minutes before eleven o’clock
till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.
DIVISION
HEALTH AND SOCIAL CARE BILL
It was moved by the Lord Clement-Jones, before Clause 1, to insert the new Clause (Purposes); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:
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Addington, L. Avebury, L. Barker, B. [Teller] Beaumont of Whitley, L. [Teller] Bradshaw, L. Clement-Jones, L. Dholakia, L. Ezra, L. Falkland, V. Goodhart, L. Hamwee, B. Harris of Greenwich, L. |
Jacobs, L. Lester of Herne Hill, L. Maddock, B. Mar and Kellie, E. Methuen, L. Newby, L. Northover, B. Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L. Park of Monmouth, B. Razzall, L. Redesdale, L. Rennard, L Rix, L. |
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Roper, L. Russell, E. Scott of Needham Market, B. Sharp of Guildford, B. Shutt of Greetland, L Thomas of Gresford, L. Thomson of Monifieth, L. Tope, L. Wallace of Saltaire, L. Walmsley, B. Watson of Richmond, L. Williams of Crosby, B. |
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Acton, L. Ahmed, L. Amos, B. Archer of Sandwell, L. Ashton of Upholland, B. Bach, L. Bassam of Brighton, L. Berkeley, L. Brabazon of Tara, L. Bragg, L. Brennan, L. Brooke of Alverthorpe, L. Brookman, L. Burlison, L. Burnham, L. Carter, L. [Teller] Chandos, V. Clarke of Hampstead, L. Clinton-Davis, L. Cocks of Hartcliffe, L. Davies of Coity, L. Davies of Oldham, L. Desai, L. Donoughue, L. Dubs, L. Eatwell, L. Elder, L. Elis-Thomas, L. Evans of Parkside, L. |
Falconer of Thoroton, L. Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Faulkner of Worcester, L. Filkin, L. Gale, B. Gilbert, L. Gladwin of Clee, L. Goudie, B. Graham of Edmonton, L. Grenfell, L. Harris of Haringey, L. Haskel, L. Hilton of Eggardon, B. Hollis of Heigham, B. Howells of St Davids, B. Howie of Troon, L. Hoyle, L. Hughes of Woodside, L. Hunt of Kings Heath, L. Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor) Jay of Paddington, B. (Lord Privy Seal) Jeger, B. Jenkins of Putney, L. King of West Bromwich, L. Lea of Crondall, L. Lipsey, L. Macdonald of Tradeston, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller] |
MacKenzie of Culkein, L. Mallalieu, B. Merlyn-Rees, L. Milner of Leeds, L. Morris of Manchester, L. Nicol, B. Plant of Highfield, L. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Rendell of Babergh, B. Richard, L. Rogers of Riverside, L. Sainsbury of Turville, L. Sawyer, L. Serota, B. Sewel, L. Simon, V. Smith of Leigh, L. Stewartby, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Thornton, B. Tomlinson, L. Turnberg, L. Walker of Doncaster, L. Warner, L. Whitaker, B. Whitty, L. Williams of Elvel, L. Williams of Mostyn, L. Winston, L. Woolmer of Leeds, L. |
APPENDIX
PROCEEDINGS OF THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM)
The Committee met at four o’clock.
Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Bill [HL]—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the Committee was adjourned after clause 124 stood part.
The Committee was adjourned at twenty-four minutes before eight o’clockuntil Thursday 22nd March at four o’clock.