House of Lords Journal 234 (Session 2000-01)


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Tuesday 3 April 2001

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alexander of Weedon, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Andrews, B.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashcroft, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Biffen, L.
Billingham, B.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Blood, B.
Boardman, L.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bragg, L.
Brennan, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Bridges, L.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlile of Berriew, L.
Carnarvon, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Chandos, V.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Colville of Culross, V.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Cranborne, V.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.

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Denham, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Feldman, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Freyberg, L.
Fyfe of Fairfield, L.
Gale, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geddes, L.
Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goschen, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Grenfell, L.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hoffmann, L.
Hogg, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Hooson, L.
Howe, E.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Chesterton, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hylton, L.
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Jopling, L.
Jordan, L.
Judd, L.
Kimball, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Laing of Dunphail, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Layard, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Lucas, L.
Luce, L.
Luke, L.
McCarthy, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montrose, D.
Moran, L.
Morgan, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moynihan, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Naseby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicol, B.
Noakes, B.
Nolan, L.
Northbourne, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Northover, B.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow, E.
Orme, L.
Oxburgh, L.
Oxford, Bp.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Parekh, L.
Patel, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Patten, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Powell of Bayswater, L.
Prior, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rawlings, B.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.
Rennard, L.
Renton, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Richard, L.
Richardson of Calow, B.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rogan, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Roper, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Selsdon, L.
Serota, B.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.

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Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Smith of Leigh, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Stallard, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tomlinson, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turnberg, L.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Vinson, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walmsley, B.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Richmond, L.
Weatherill, L.
Whitaker, B.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Windlesham, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Oxford.

Judicial Business

1.Krasner (the trustee in bankruptcy of John William Alexander Dennison) (Respondent) v. Dennison (AP) (Appellant) and others—It was ordered that the appeal be withdrawn and that there be no order as to costs save that the costs of the appellant be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.
2.Appeal Committee—The 42nd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made—

Regina v. Benjafield (Petitioner)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 5th April.

In re F (a minor)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Papers

3.Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Northern Ireland—Northern Ireland Office Departmental Report 2001 and Government Expenditure Plans for 2001–02 to 2003–04 and Main Estimates for 2001–02;
 (5122)
2.Cabinet Office — Regulatory Impact Assessment 1st July to 31st December 2000.
 (5125)
4.Affirmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:

Draft Broadcasting (Subtitling) Order 2001.

5.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1. (i)Rent Officers (Housing Benefit Functions) (Amendment) Order 2001—(1325)
(ii)Rent Officers (Housing Benefit Functions) (Scotland) (Amendment) Order 2001—(1326)
 laid under the Housing Act 1996;
2. (i)Social Security (Widow’s Benefit and Retirement Pensions) Amendment Regulations 2001—(1235)
(ii)Social Security Pensions (Home Responsibilities) (Amendment) Regulations 2001—(1265)
(iii)Housing Benefit (General) Amendment (No. 3) Regulations 2001—(1324)
(iv)Tax Credits (New Deal Consequential Amendments) Regulations 2001—(1334)
 laid under the Social Security and Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;
3.Tax Credits (New Deal Consequential Amendments) (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2001, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits (Northern Ireland) Act 1992;
 (1333)
4.Child Support (Civil Imprisonment) (Scotland) Regulations 2001, laid under the Child Support Act 1991;
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5.Police (Recruitment) (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2001, laid under the Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000.
 (—)
6.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Statements of guarantee by the Secretary of State for Health on loans proposed to be raised by the following National Health Service Trusts:
(i)Huddersfield Health Care Services—
(ii)Poole Hospital—
(iii)Oxfordshire Mental Healthcare—
(iv)Portsmouth HealthCare—
(v)Heatherwood and Wexham Park Hospitals—
(vi)Northampton General Hospital—
(vii)Severn—
(viii)North Tees and Hartlepool—
(ix)Pinderfields and Pontefract Hospitals—
(x)Priority Healthcare Wearside—
(xi)South Tees Acute Hospitals—
(xii)Tees and North East Yorkshire—
(xiii)Wakefield and Pontefract Community Health—
(xiv)United Bristol Healthcare—
(xv)Northallerton Health Services—
 laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990;
2.Accounts for 1999–2000 of the Film Council Lottery Distribution, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Lottery Etc. Act 1993;
3.Accounts for 1999–2000 of the Clacton and Harwich Education Action Zone, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998.

Select Committee Reports

7.Statutory Instruments—The 13th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory instruments; it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 62)
8.European Union—The following Reports from the Select Committee were made and ordered to be printed, together with the Minutes of Evidence:

The European Court of Auditors: the case for reform; (12th Report–HL Paper 63)

A Community Immigration Policy. (13th Report–HL Paper 64)

Private Business

9.Medway Council Bill [HL]—The bill was returned from the Commons with the amendment to which the Lords have disagreed not insisted on.

Public Business

10.Northern Ireland Arms Decommissioning Act 1997 (Amnesty Period) Order 2001—It was moved by the Lord Falconer of Thoroton that the draft Order laid before the House on 27th March be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.
11.Armed Forces Bill—A bill to continue the Army Act 1955, the Air Force Act 1955 and the Naval Discipline Act 1957; to make further provision in relation to the armed forces and the Ministry of Defence Police; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 43)
12.Armed Forces Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 43–EN)
13.Criminal Defence Service (Advice and Assistance) Bill[HL]—The bill was returned from the Commons agreed to.
14.Children’s Commissioner for Wales Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed and the bill was reported without amendment.

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15.National Institute for Clinical Excellence—The Baroness Cumberlege asked Her Majesty’s Government whether the progress being made by the National Institute for Clinical Excellence in their appraisal of Beta interferons and glatiramer acetates is satisfactory; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Hunt of King’s Heath.

The House was adjourned at twenty-four minutes past eight o’clock
till tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,
half-past two o’clock for public business.