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Moved, as an amendment to the Motion that the House do not insist on their Amendment No. 44 to which the Commons have disagreed for their reason numbered 44A, leave out Xnot".(Baroness Buscombe.)
On Question, Amendment No. 44B agreed to.
44BBaroness Buscombe rose to move, as an amendment to the Motion that the House do not insist on their Amendment No. 44 to which the Commons have disagreed for their reason numbered 44A, leave out Xnot".
The noble Lord said: My Lords, as an English translation of that, Amendment No. 48BB is in my name and those of the noble Lords, Lord Dixon-Smith and Lord McNally. Bearing in mind the circumstances, nothing else need be said, as we have obviously reached an agreement on the issue.
Moved, That the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 48A and so much of Amendment No. 48B as falls within paragraph (d) and do disagree with so much of Amendment No. 48B as falls within paragraph (e).(Lord Rooker.)
On Question, Motion agreed to.
Lord Rooker had given notice of his intention to move, That the House do not insist on their Amendment No. 66 to which the Commons have disagreed and do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 66A in lieu thereof, with the following amendment to Amendment No. 66A
The noble Lord said: My Lords, I am getting better at the procedures in this place, but they are still a mystery to me. I understand that it may be possible to reach agreement to deal with the concerns raised on the clause. I therefore do not propose to move Amendment No. 66AA. The debate should therefore take place on Amendment No. 66B. If the wording of what I have just read out means exactly what it says, I do not think that there is much room for a debate, because there is a possibility of reaching agreement to deal with the issue.
I beg to move that the House do not insist on their Amendment No. 66 to which the Commons have disagreed.
Moved, That the House do not insist on their Amendment No. 66 to which the Commons have disagreed.(Lord Rooker.)
The noble Lord said: My Lords, things may be going on elsewhere, but we still need to create an environment in which those things can continue. To do that, we have to ensure that the sun will set on this Bill.
We have to include this sunset clause. We have very thoroughly debated it all before, including the procedures under which we have had to consider the Bill perforce. We want the legislation as much as the Government do. As the Bill is not wholly satisfactory, however, this sunset clause is justified. I do not intend to waste the time of the House. I beg to move.
Moved, as an amendment to the Motion that this House do not insist on their Amendment No. 66 to which the Commons have disagreed, leave out the words after XHouse" and insert Xdo insist on their Amendment No. 66 to which the Commons have disagreed and do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 66A".(Lord Dixon-Smith.)
On Question, Motion agreed to.
Viscount Bledisloe: My Lords, I think, subject to your Lordships' guidance, I can hardly move Amendment No. 66C because it would amend Amendment No. 66A, which has not been moved. I hate to make a suggestion to the Chair, but I see that those who are at the Table are nodding.
All I shall say, as I have been allowed to get to my feet, is that I hope that at some stage I may be informed of what those secret conclaves are deciding so that I know what to do with my amendment at a later stage. I think that I am out of order, but it is not my fault.
Lord Dixon-Smith: My Lords, I thought that the only amendment that had been moved and spoken to was Amendment No. 66B. However, I thought that the Lord Chairman said Amendment No. 66A when he stood up, which is unfortunate.
The Deputy Speaker (Lord Skelmersdale): My Lords, it was clearly not moved.
Lord Rooker: My Lords, I may be wrong, but I think that we have agreed to Amendment No. 66B without a vote. It was agreed without a vote on the basis that discussions are taking place elsewhere. So as far as I am concerned, this House has concluded its consideration of the Commons Amendments.
Clause 1 [The Office of Communications]:
66AAAfter subsection (5) insert
X( ) The Secretary of State shall also lay before Parliament, as soon as is reasonably practicable, a statement as to
(a) his views on the report, and
(b) what action (if any) he proposes to take in response to it."
66BLord Dixon-Smith rose to move, as an amendment to the Motion that this House do not insist on their Amendment No. 66 to which the Commons have disagreed, leave out the words after XHouse" and insert Xdo insist on their Amendment No. 66 to which the Commons have disagreed and do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 66A".
7.33 p.m.
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