House of Lords Journal 236 (Session 2002-03)

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Wednesday 5 March 2003

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alderdice, L.
Alexander of Weedon, L.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Andrews, B.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Arran, E.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Avebury, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Best, L.
Bhatia, L.
Biffen, L.
Birt, L.
Blackwell, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Bramall, L.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Bridges, L.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carlile of Berriew, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Chan, L.
Chandos, V.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clark of Windermere, L.
Clarke Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cockfield, L.
Coe, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Colwyn, L.
Condon, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Courtown, E.
Craig of Radley, L.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Cuckney, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Dahrendorf, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Elder, L.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Ezra, L.
Falkender, B.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Ferrers, E.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Fowler, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freeman, L.
Freyberg, L.

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Fyfe of Fairfield, L.
Gale, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Golding, B.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goschen, V.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grocott, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Hannay of Chiswick, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Chesterton, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hylton, L.
Imbert, L.
Inglewood, L.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jones, L.
Jopling, L.
Jordan, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Laird, L.
Laming, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Levy, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Livsey of Talgarth, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lucas, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Maginnis of Drumglass, L.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mishcon, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Montrose, D.
Morgan, L.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moynihan, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Naseby, L.
Neill of Bladen, L.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicol, B.
Northbourne, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Northover, B.
Norton of Louth, L.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Oxburgh, L.
Palmer, L.
Parekh, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Pendry, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plumb, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Powell of Bayswater, L.
Prashar, B.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Radice, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rennard, L.
Renton, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Richard, L.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rochester, Bp.
Rogan, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Rooker, L.
Roper, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Selsdon, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sheldon, L.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stallard, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L.
Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tebbit, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.

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Thornton, B.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Tugendhat, L.
Turnberg, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Vinson, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walmsley, B.
Walpole, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Weatherill, L.
Whitaker, B.
Wigoder, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Wilson of Dinton, L.
Windlesham, L.
Winston, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Rochester.

1.Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Tuesday 25th and Wednesday 26th March.

Judicial Business

2.Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) ex parte Mullen (Respondent) (England)—The appeal of the Secretary of State for the Home Department was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 16th April next.


3.Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Submarine Pipelines—Framework Agreement between the United Kingdom and Norway relating to the Laying, Operation and Jurisdiction of Inter–Connecting Submarine Pipelines;
2.Finance—Treasury Minutes on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Reports from the Committee of Public Accounts;
3.De-Mining Equipment—Minute from the Ministry of Defence concerning the gifting of de-mining equipment to Kenya.
4.Affirmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:
Draft Child Benefit and Guardian’s Allowance (Decisions and Appeals) Regulations 2003, laid under the Social Security Act 1998, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.

5.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Child Benefit and Guardian’s Allowance (Administration) Regulations 2003, laid under the Social Security Administration Act 1992;
2. (i)Child Benefit (General) Regulations 2003—(493)
(ii)Guardian’s Allowance (General) Regulations 2003—(495)
 laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;
3.Child Benefit and Guardian’s Allowance (Administrative Arrangements) Regulations 2003, laid under the Tax Credits Act 2002;
4.Dartford–Thurrock Crossing (Amendment) Regulations 2003, laid under the Dartford–Thurrock Crossing Act 1988;
5. (i)Gaming Act (Variation of Fees) (England and Wales) Order 2003—(508)
(ii)Gaming Act (Variation of Fees) (England and Wales and Scotland) Order 2003—(509)
 laid under the Gaming Act 1968.

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Select Committee Report

6.House Committee—The 2nd Report from the Select Committee was made and ordered to be printed (see appendix). (HL Paper 69)

Public Business

7.Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Privy Seal (Lord Williams of Mostyn) that the debate on the motion in the name of the Lord Fowler set down for today shall be limited to 3 hours and that in the name of the Baroness Park of Monmouth to 2½ hours; the motion was agreed to.
8.Travel to European Union Institutions and National Parliaments—It was moved by the Lord Privy Seal (Lord Williams of Mostyn) to resolve:

That, in the opinion of this House, provision should be made as from 1st April 2003 for reimbursing Lords in respect of the cost of travelling on parliamentary duties between the United Kingdom and any European Union institution in Brussels, Luxembourg or Strasbourg or the national parliament of a European Union state or a candidate country and any additional expenses necessarily incurred in connection with such travel, subject to the following conditions—

after debate, the motion was agreed to.
(a)for any Lord, reimbursement is for not more than two visits in any year beginning with 1st April;
(b)the amount payable in respect of travel out of and into the United Kingdom is not more than the business class return fare between a station or airport serving London or the area of the Lord’s main residence and a station or airport serving the city visited;
(c)subsistence for each visit is limited to two nights at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office class A standard subsistence rate for the time being in operation;
(d)the Lord must submit in advance to the Clerk of the Parliaments a statement of the visit’s purpose, location and duration and the persons or organisations to be met;

9.Pensions (3-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Fowler that there be laid before the House papers relating to the Green Paper on saving for retirement (Cm. 5677) and to the promotion of adequate pension provision in the United Kingdom; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.
10.Communications Bill—A bill to confer functions on the Office of Communications; to make provision about the regulation of the provision of electronic communications networks and services and of the use of the electro-magnetic spectrum; to make provision about the regulation of broadcasting and of the provision of television and radio services; to make provision about newspaper mergers and, in that connection, to amend the Enterprise Act 2002; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 41)
11.Communications Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 41–EN)
12.Zimbabwe (2½-hour debate)—It was moved by the Baroness Park of Monmouth that there be laid before the House papers relating to the situation in Zimbabwe; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.
13.Maximum Number of Judges Order 2003—It was moved by the Lord Bassam of Brighton that the draft Order laid before the House on 6th February be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.
14.Harbours Bill [HL]—It was moved by the Lord Berkeley that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

The House was adjourned at twenty-eight minutes before ten o’clock

till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.

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5 March 2003

The House Committee has agreed a Strategic Plan for the House of Lords administration. The Plan, which will be subject to annual review, sets out the aim, objectives, values and primary tasks of the Clerk of the Parliaments and the staff of the House for the years 2003–08. The text of the Strategic Plan is as follows:



The aim of the House of Lords administration is:

To enable the House, together with its Members, to carry out its parliamentary and judicial functions fully and effectively, and to give value for money.


The four objectives of the House of Lords administration are:

1. To ensure that the House and its committees have the necessary procedural, information, research, administrative and security support to meet at any time and in any circumstances.

2. To provide all Members of the House (and their staff) with the services they need, including appropriate accommodation and facilities, in support of their parliamentary and judicial duties, regardless of party or office.

3. To provide the public with information and with access to the proceedings of the House, so as to enhance awareness and understanding of the House’s work.

4. To maintain the heritage and integrity of the House’s buildings, objects and documents.

Core Values

The administration will be guided by the following core values and principles:

— Respect for the importance and dignity of Parliament.

— Professional excellence.

— Honesty and integrity.

— Impartiality.

— Accountability.

— Efficiency in maximising the return on all inputs.

— Fairness and respect among its staff.

— Openness.

Primary Tasks

The administration has identified 14 primary tasks for the period 2003–08. How these tasks will be implemented will be detailed in annual business plans. The order in which the tasks are set out is not intended to indicate their relative importance. In fulfilling its objectives, the House of Lords administration will seek to:

1. Ensure that the provision of services to Members of the House is managed efficiently and effectively and in a way which is responsive to their wishes.

2. Anticipate and provide for the needs of a changing House.

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3. Provide sufficient accommodation and facilities to allow Members, Members’ staff and the staff of the House to work in an efficient and safe environment while maintaining the fabric and heritage of the parliamentary estate.

4. Develop a system of corporate governance and internal control which is open, effective and accountable; and make further progress with implementing sound financial management.

5. Implement a programme to obtain value for money in all the administration’s activities and resources.

6. Continue to make security arrangements which are appropriate to the assessed level of threat and allow the House to function effectively, and develop contingency plans to enable the House and its committees to continue their work under any circumstances.

7. Develop a strategy for effective communications between the administration and Members of the House, and within the administration.

8. Promote public understanding and knowledge of the House through the development of an external communications strategy in all media including print, electronic and speaking activities, and improve both physical access and facilities for visitors.

9. Exploit information systems and technology so as to give parliamentary and public users ready access to a wide range of parliamentary information, when they want it and without having to know where it is held.

10. Extend the electronic delivery of services wherever appropriate.

11. Pursue human resources policies which promote the recruitment, retention and development through training of staff of high calibre; which encourage diversity and support innovation; and which provide staff with the skills and motivation to meet the needs of the House.

12. Ensure that records in all media are created, used and disposed of in accordance with the business, legal, evidential and archival needs of the House by applying recognised standards and best practice in records management.

13. Develop relationships at the administrative level with devolved Parliaments and assemblies, Commonwealth Parliaments and European Union institutions and Parliaments.

14. Improve existing arrangements for shared services with the House of Commons and explore new areas where shared services could benefit the House of Lords and Parliament.