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Lord Barnett: My Lords, before my noble friend gets to that point, does she accept that this resolution is somewhat premature in the sense that, if there were to be an elected second Chamber—this House—there would need to be changes in the conventions?

Baroness Amos: My Lords, conventions, by their very nature, are ongoing and dynamic. That is precisely why this Motion is worded as it is. It is clear that the committee will look at the practicality of codifying the conventions. We are in no way pretending that this task will be easy. Around this Chamber, we all know that House of Lords reform has been on the agenda for many years. It was on the agenda long before I was born, and I have no doubt that it will be there long after I am gone.

Lord Cope of Berkeley: My Lords, the Minister was about to address the question of 21 July. Can she confirm that the report may be an interim one?

Baroness Amos: My Lords, my apologies. It would be up to the committee—having met and decided what it is going to look at—to come back to both Houses to seek an extension if it thinks the timescale is too short. I commend the Motion to the House.
 
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4.18 pm

On Question, Whether the said Motion shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 179; Not-Contents, 95.


Division No. 1


CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Adams of Craigielea, B.
Addington, L.
Adonis, L.
Ahmed, L.
Amos, B. [Lord President.]
Anderson of Swansea, L.
Andrews, B.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Bach, L.
Barker, B.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Biffen, L.
Bilston, L.
Blackstone, B.
Boothroyd, B.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Burlison, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carter, L.
Carter of Coles, L.
Clark of Windermere, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Colville of Culross, V.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Crawley, B.
Cunningham of Felling, L.
David, B.
Davidson of Glen Clova, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Mauley, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dykes, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L. [Lord Chancellor.]
Falkner of Margravine, B.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Fearn, L.
Filkin, L.
Finlay of Llandaff, B.
Foster of Bishop Auckland, L.
Fyfe of Fairfield, L.
Gale, B.
Gavron, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Glentoran, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gould of Brookwood, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Greengross, B.
Gregson, L.
Grocott, L. [Teller]
Hannay of Chiswick, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrison, L.
Hart of Chilton, L.
Haskel, L.
Haskins, L.
Haworth, L.
Henig, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Hooson, L.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jones, L.
Jones of Cheltenham, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kingsdown, L.
Kinnock, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Kirkwood of Kirkhope, L.
Layard, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Leitch, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McDonagh, B.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McKenzie of Luton, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Mitchell, L.
Morgan, L.
Morgan of Drefelin, B.
Morgan of Huyton, B.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Bolton, B.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Morris of Yardley, B.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Nicol, B.
O'Neill of Clackmannan, L.
Parekh, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Pendry, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Prosser, B.
Radice, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Ramsbotham, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Razzall, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L.
Roberts of Llandudno, L.
Rogan, L.
Roper, L.
Rosser, L.
Rowlands, L.
Royall of Blaisdon, B.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Sawyer, L.
Seccombe, B.
Sewel, L.
Sharman, L.
Shutt of Greetland, L. [Teller]
Simon, V.
Smith of Leigh, L.
Soley, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Bolton, B.
Temple-Morris, L.
Tenby, V.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thornton, B.
Tordoff, L.
Truscott, L.
Tunnicliffe, L.
Tyler, L.
Varley, L.
Vinson, L.
Wakeham, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walmsley, B.
Warner, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Whitaker, B.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Windlesham, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Alton of Liverpool, L.
Barnett, L.
Blaker, L.
Bowness, L.
Bramall, L.
Bridges, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brookman, L.
Cameron of Dillington, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Chapman, B.
Cobbold, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crickhowell, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Denham, L. [Teller]
D'Souza, B.
Dundee, E.
Eden of Winton, L.
Falkland, V.
Ferrers, E.
Fookes, B.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Freeman, L.
Garden, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geddes, L.
Goodlad, L.
Hamilton of Epsom, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Hooper, B.
Howard of Rising, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Inge, L.
Inglewood, L.
Kimball, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
Kingsland, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Laidlaw, L.
Laird, L.
Listowel, E.
Lucas, L.
Lyell, L.
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Moonie, L.
Moran, L.
Murphy, B.
Naseby, L.
Northbourne, L.
Onslow, E.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L. [Teller]
Rawlings, B.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Renton, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rotherwick, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sanderson of Bowden, L.
Selborne, E.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shephard of Northwold, B.
Slim, V.
Slynn of Hadley, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Taverne, L.
Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Trumpington, B.
Waddington, L.
Warnock, B.
Willoughby de Broke, L.


Resolved in the affirmative, and Motion agreed to; and a message was ordered to be sent to the Commons to acquaint them therewith.


 
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Safeguarding Vulnerable Groups Bill [HL]

4.31 pm

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for Education and Skills (Lord Adonis): My Lords, I beg to move the Motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.

Moved, That it be an instruction to the Grand Committee to which the Safeguarding Vulnerable Groups Bill [HL] has been committed that they consider the Bill in the following order: Clause 1,

Schedule 1,

Clause 2,

Schedule 2,

Clauses 3 to 5,

Schedule 3,

Clauses 6 to 25,

Schedule 4,

Clauses 26 to 46,

Schedule 5,

Clauses 47 to 50.—(Lord Adonis.)

On Question, Motion agreed to.

Work and Families Bill

Report received.

Baroness Morris of Bolton moved Amendment No. 1:


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