House of Lords Journal 239 (Session 2005-06)

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Thursday 4th May 2006

The House met at eleven o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Acton, L.
Adams of Craigielea, B.
Addington, L.
Adonis, L.
Ahmed, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anderson of Swansea, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L.
Ashdown of Norton-sub-
Hamdon, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Best, L.
Bhatia, L.
Bhattacharyya, L.
Biffen, L.
Billingham, B.
Bilston, L.
Birt, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blaker, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Blood, B.
Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bragg, L.
Brennan, L.
Brett, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Buscombe, B.
Byford, B.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carlile of Berriew, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter of Coles, L.

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Chapman, B.
Chidgey, L.
Christopher, L.
Clark of Windermere, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Colville of Culross, V.
Colwyn, L.
Condon, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Croham, L.
Cuckney, L.
Cunningham of Felling, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Mauley, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dearing, L.
Denham, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
D’Souza, B.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Elder, L.
Elles, B.
Elton, L.
Elystan-Morgan, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Falkland, V.
Falkner of Margravine, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Finlay of Llandaff, B.
Flather, B.
Flowers, L.
Fookes, B.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Foster of Bishop Auckland, L.
Foulkes of Cumnock, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Fritchie, B.
Gale, B.
Garden, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Gavron, L.
Geddes, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Giddens, L.
Glentoran, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Grenfell, L.
Griffiths of Burry Port, L.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L.
Grocott, L.
Hamilton of Epsom, L.
Hanham, B.
Hanningfield, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Hastings of Scarisbrick, L.
Haworth, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Henig, B.
Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howard of Rising, L.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howarth of Newport, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hylton, L.
Inge, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jones, L.
Jones of Cheltenham, L.
Jopling, L.
Jordan, L.
Judd, L.
Kilclooney, L.
Kimball, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinnock, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Kirkwood of Kirkhope, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Laird, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Livsey of Talgarth, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Lucas, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McKenzie of Luton, L.
Maclennan of Rogart, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Maginnis of Drumglass, L.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Maxton, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Moonie, L.
Morgan, L.
Morgan of Drefelin, B.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Bolton, B.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Morris of Yardley, B.
Moser, L.
Moynihan, L.
Murphy, B.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Noakes, B.
Northbourne, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northover, B.
Norton of Louth, L.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
O’Cathain, B.
O’Neill of Clackmannan, L.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Oxford, Bp.
Palmer, L.
Parekh, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Pendry, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plumb, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Powell of Bayswater, L.
Prosser, B.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quinton, L.

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Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Ramsbotham, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Richard, L.
Richardson of Calow, B.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Roberts of Llandudno, L.
Rogan, L.
Rooker, L.
Roper, L.
Rosser, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowlands, L.
Royall of Blaisdon, B.
Russell-Johnston, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
St. Albans, Bp.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Sewel, L.
Sharples, B.
Sheldon, L.
Shephard of Northwold, B.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon, V.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Slynn of Hadley, L.
Smith of Finsbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Snape, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stern, B.
Stevens of Kirkwhelpington, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Tenby, V.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tonge, B.
Triesman, L.
Trumpington, B.
Truscott, L.
Tunnicliffe, L.
Turnbull, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Turner of Ecchinswell, L.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Worcester, L.
Wall of New Barnet, B.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walmsley, B.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Whitaker, B.
Wilcox, B.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Windlesham, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Worcester, Bp.
Young of Hornsey, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of St Albans.

Judicial Business

1.Brooks (FC) (Respondent) v. Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis (Appellant) and others—Further to the Order of the House of 21st April 2005 (32nd Report, Session 2004–05 [2005] UKHL 24), it was ordered that the Order of the House of 21st April 2005 be varied so that for the words “That the respondent do pay to the appellant his costs in the Central London County Court, in the Court of Appeal and in this House; that the order for costs in the Central London County Court be not enforced without the permission of that Court; and that the amounts of the costs in the Court of Appeal and in this House, if any, to be paid by the respondent and to be paid out of the Community Legal Service Fund be determined by a Costs Judge for those costs incurred in the Court of Appeal and certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments for those incurred in this House in accordance with section 11 of the Access to Justice Act 1999 and regulation 5(2) of the Community Legal Service (Costs Protection) Regulations 2000” there be substituted the words “That the appellant do pay the respondent’s reasonable costs of the claim on the standard basis if not agreed, such costs to be assessed by a Costs Judge for those costs incurred in the County Court and the Court of Appeal and taxed by the Clerk of the Parliaments for those costs incurred in this House; that, for the avoidance of doubt, such costs shall be the costs of the claim notwithstanding any orders of the court to the contrary effect and shall include the costs incurred in connection with the parties’ appeals, and cross-appeals, to the Court of Appeal and to this House, and shall also include any additional reasonable solicitor-client costs of the respondent of the type commonly borne by the Legal Services Commission; and that the respondent’s costs be assessed in accordance with the Community Legal Service (Costs) Regulations 2000”.
2.Mando (FC) (Petitioner) and 4 v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—The petition of Fidelis Mando praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s certificate of public funding was lodged.

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3.Appeal Committee—The 95th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Order was made—

Armstrong and others (Petitioners) v. Newcastle upon Tyne NHS Hospitals Trust (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 18th May.


4.Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of Her Majesty, were ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Compensation—Report for 2004–05 of the Foreign Compensation Commission;
2.Law Commission—Final Report of the Law Commission on Renting Homes, together with the Draft Bill.
5.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Education (Change of Category of Maintained Schools) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2006, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;
2.Merchant Shipping (Oil Pollution) (Bunkers Convention) Regulations 2006, laid under the European Communities Act 1972;
3.Statute made by New College, Oxford on 15th June 2005, laid under the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923.
6.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Report on announced inspection of Maghaberry Prison by H M Chief Inspector of Prisons and the Chief Inspector of Criminal Justice in Northern Ireland, laid under the Justice (Northern Ireland) Act 2002;
2.Accounts for 2003–04 of the Northern Ireland Social Security Agency Social Fund, laid under the Northern Ireland Act 2000;
3.Report and Accounts for 2004 of CITB-Construction Skills, laid under the Industrial Training Act 1982.

Public Business

7.Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Rooker, on behalf of the Lord President (Baroness Amos), that Standing Order 47 (No two stages of a Bill to be taken on one day) be dispensed with on Monday 8th May to allow the Northern Ireland Bill to be taken through its remaining stages that day; the motion was agreed to.
8.Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Rooker, on behalf of the Lord President (Baroness Amos), that the debate on the motion in the name of the Lord Turnbull set down for today shall be limited to 3 hours and that in the name of the Viscount Montgomery of Alamein to 2½ hours; the motion was agreed to.
9.Company Law Reform Bill—It was moved by the Lord McKenzie of Luton, on behalf of the Lord Sainsbury of Turville, that the amendments for the Report stage be marshalled and considered in the following order:
Clauses 1 to 234
Schedule 1
Clauses 235 to 630
Schedule 2
Clauses 631 to 657
Schedule 3
Clauses 658 to 743
Schedule 4
Clauses 744 to 760
Schedules 5 to 7
Clauses 761 to 771
Schedule 8
Clauses 772 to 779
Schedule 9
Clauses 780 to 811
Schedule 10
Clauses 812 to 814
Schedule 11
Clauses 815 to 836
Schedule 12
Clauses 837 to 846
Schedule 13
Clauses 847 to 858
Schedule 14
Clauses 859 to 880
Schedule 15
Clauses 881 to 884;

the motion was agreed to.

10.Pensions (3-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Turnbull that there be laid before the House papers relating to issues relating to pensions in the light of the 2nd report of the Pensions Commission; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.
11.Latin America (2½-hour debate)—It was moved by the Viscount Montgomery of Alamein that there be laid before the House papers relating to recent developments in Latin America; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

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12.Parkinson’s disease—The Baroness Gale asked Her Majesty’s Government what further measures they are taking to assist people with Parkinson’s disease and their carers; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Warner.
13.Childcare Bill—The bill was reported from the Grand Committee without amendment.

The House was adjourned at seventeen minutes past six o’clock
to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.



The Committee met at two o’clock.

Childcare Bill—The bill was further considered in the Grand Committee; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; it was ordered that the bill be reported without amendment.

The Committee was adjourned at one minute past six o’clock.