House of Lords Journal 240 (Session 2006-07)


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Thursday 23 November 2006

The House met at 11.00am

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Hayman, B. (Lord Speaker)

Adams of Craigielea, B.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alderdice, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Ampthill, L.
Anderson of Swansea, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Arran, E.
Ashcroft, L.
Ashdown of Norton-sub-
Hamdon, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Ballyedmond, L.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bhatia, L.
Biffen, L.
Bilimoria, L.
Billingham, B.
Bilston, L.
Birt, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Boyce, L.
Boyd of Duncansby, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradley, L.

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Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Bridges, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnett, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butler-Sloss, B.
Byford, B.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carswell, L.
Carter, L.
Carter of Coles, L.
Chester, Bp.
Chidgey, L.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clark of Calton, B.
Clark of Windermere, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Colwyn, L.
Condon, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Cotter, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Cuckney, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Mauley, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dear, L.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Drayson, L.
D’Souza, B.
Dubs, L.
Dykes, L.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles, V.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Feldman, L.
Ferrers, E.
Finlay of Llandaff, B.
Flather, B.
Flowers, L.
Ford, B.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Foster of Bishop Auckland, L.
Foulkes of Cumnock, L.
Fowler, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Fyfe of Fairfield, L.
Garden, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Gavron, L.
Geddes, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Giddens, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Golding, B.
Goldsmith, L.
Goodhart, L.
Goodlad, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goschen, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Brookwood, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grabiner, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L.
Grocott, L.
Hamilton of Epsom, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Hanningfield, L.
Harries of Pentregarth, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Hart of Chilton, L.
Haskel, L.
Hastings of Scarisbrick, L.
Haworth, L.
Henig, B.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hooper, B.
Howard of Rising, L.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howarth of Newport, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hylton, L.
Inge, L.
Inglewood, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
James of Blackheath, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jones, L.
Jones of Cheltenham, L.
Jones of Whitchurch, B.
Jopling, L.
Jordan, L.
Judd, L.
Kilclooney, L.
Kimball, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kingsmill, B.
Kinnock, L.
Kirkwood of Kirkhope, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Laird, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Layard, L.
Leach of Fairford, L.
Lee of Trafford, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Livsey of Talgarth, L.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Low of Dalston, L.
Lucas, L.
Luce, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McKenzie of Luton, L.
Maclennan of Rogart, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Maginnis of Drumglass, L.
Mance, L.
Manchester, Bp.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Maxton, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montrose, D.
Moonie, L.
Morgan, L.
Morgan of Drefelin, B.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Bolton, B.
Morris of Handsworth, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Moser, L.
Moynihan, L.

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Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Naseby, L.
Newcastle, Bp.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Noakes, B.
Northbourne, L.
Northesk, E.
Northover, B.
Norton of Louth, L.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
O’Cathain, B.
O’Neill of Clackmannan, L.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Ouseley, L.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Patel of Bradford, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Pendry, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Peston, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prashar, B.
Prosser, B.
Puttnam, L.
Quin, B.
Quinton, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsbotham, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rennard, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Richard, L.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Roberts of Llandudno, L.
Robertson of Port Ellen, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogan, L.
Rosser, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rowlands, L.
Royall of Blaisdon, B.
Russell-Johnston, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Sewel, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Sheldon, L.
Shephard of Northwold, B.
Shrewsbury, E.
Simon, V.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Finsbury, L.
Snape, L.
Soley, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Stern, B.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Bolton, B.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Tenby, V.
Teverson, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomas of Winchester, B.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tonge, B.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Triesman, L.
Trimble, L.
Trumpington, B.
Truscott, L.
Turnberg, L.
Turnbull, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Turner of Ecchinswell, L.
Tyler, L.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Verma, B.
Vincent of Coleshill, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Wall of New Barnet, B.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walmsley, B.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Watson of Richmond, L.
Waverley, V.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Whitaker, B.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Willoughby de Broke, L.
Windlesham, L.
Woolf, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
York, Abp.
Young of Norwood Green, L.

Prayers were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwark

1    Affirmation Richard George Lord Rogers of Riverside made and subscribed the solemn affirmation.

Public Business

2    Conventional Weapons Convention A question was asked by Lord Howell of Guildford, on behalf of Lord Elton, and answered by Lord Triesman.

3    Iraq and Afghanistan: United Kingdom forces A question was asked by Lord Trefgarne and answered by Lord Drayson.

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4    Government departments: judicial review A question was asked by Lord Trimble and answered by Lord Goldsmith.

5    Alcohol Harm Reduction Strategy A question was asked by Lord Avebury and answered by Lord Warner.

6    Legal Services Bill [HL] Lord Falconer of Thoroton presented a bill to make provision for the establishment of the Legal Services Board and in respect of its functions; to make provision for, and in connection with, the regulation of persons who carry on certain legal activities; to make provision for the establishment of the Office for Legal Complaints and for a scheme to consider and determine legal complaints; to make provision about claims management services and about immigration advice and immigration services; to make provision in respect of legal representation provided free of charge; to make provision about the application of the Legal Profession and Legal Aid (Scotland) Act 2006; to make provision about the Scottish legal services ombudsman; and for connected purposes. It was read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 9)

7    Legal Services Bill [HL] The Explanatory Notes on the bill were ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 9-EN)

8    Cluster Munitions (Prohibition) Bill [HL] Lord Dubs presented a bill to make provision for the control of cluster munitions; for the destruction of such munitions; and for connected purposes. It was read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 10)

9    Interception of Communications (Admissibility of Evidence) Bill [HL] Lord Lloyd of Berwick presented a bill to permit the introduction of intercept evidence and evidence of communications data in certain criminal proceedings; and for connected purposes. It was read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 11)

10    Public Demonstrations (Repeals) Bill [HL] Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer presented a bill to amend certain provisions of the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005 and other legislative restraints on public demonstrations; and for connected purposes. It was read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 12)

11    House Committee The Chairman of Committees moved that a Select Committee be appointed to supervise the general administration of the House and guide the work of the Management Board; to agree the annual Estimates, Supplementary Estimates and the three-year spending forecasts; to approve the House of Lords Annual Report; and to approve changes in employment policy; That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following members be appointed to the Committee:

B Amos (Lord President)
L Barnett
L Brabazon of Tara
L Burlison
B Hayman (Lord Speaker) (Chairman)
L Hunt of Wirral
L Lloyd of Berwick
L McNally
L Renfrew of Kaimsthorn
L Strathclyde
L Tordoff
L Williamson of Horton;

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;

That the Reports of the Select Committee shall be printed, regardless of any adjournment of the House.

The motion was agreed to.

12    Merits of Statutory Instruments The Chairman of Committees moved that a Select Committee be appointed to consider the Merits of Statutory Instruments; That:

(1)    The Committee shall, subject to the exceptions in paragraph (2), consider—

    (a)  every instrument (whether or not a statutory instrument), or draft of an instrument, which is laid before each House of Parliament and upon which proceedings may be, or might have been, taken in either House of Parliament under an Act of Parliament;

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    (b)  every proposal which is in the form of a draft of such an instrument and is laid before each House of Parliament under an Act of Parliament,

with a view to determining whether or not the special attention of the House should be drawn to it on any of the grounds specified in paragraph (3).

(2)    The exceptions are—

    (a)  Orders in Council, and draft Orders in Council, under paragraph 1 of the Schedule to the Northern Ireland Act 2000;

    (b)  remedial orders, and draft remedial orders, under section 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998;

    (c)  draft orders (including draft subordinate provisions orders) under section 1 of the Regulatory Reform Act 2001, subordinate provisions orders under that Act and proposals in the form of a draft order under that Act;

    (d)    Measures under the Church of England Assembly (Powers) Act 1919 and instruments made, and drafts of instruments to be made, under them.

(3)    The grounds on which an instrument, draft or proposal may be drawn to the special attention of the House are—

    (a)  that it is politically or legally important or gives rise to issues of public policy likely to be of interest to the House;

    (b)  that it may be inappropriate in view of changed circumstances since the enactment of the parent Act;

    (c)  that it may inappropriately implement European Union legislation;

    (d)  that it may imperfectly achieve its policy objectives.

(4)    The Committee shall also consider such other general matters relating to the effective scrutiny of the merits of statutory instruments and arising from the performance of its functions under paragraphs (1) to (3) as the Committee considers appropriate, except matters within the orders of reference of the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments;

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following members be appointed to the Committee:

L Armstrong of Ilminster
V Colville of Culross
B Deech
V Eccles
L Filkin (Chairman)
L James of Blackheath
L Jopling
B Maddock
B Morgan of Drefelin
B Thomas of Winchester
L Tunnicliffe;

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place within the United Kingdom;

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;

That the Reports of the Select Committee shall be printed, regardless of any adjournment of the House.

The motion was agreed to.

13    Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform The Chairman of Committees moved that a Select Committee be appointed to report whether the provisions of any bill inappropriately delegate legislative power, or whether they subject the exercise of legislative power to an inappropriate degree of parliamentary scrutiny; to report on documents and draft orders laid before Parliament under the Regulatory Reform Act 2001; and to perform, in respect of such documents and orders

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and subordinate provisions orders laid under that Act, the functions performed in respect of other instruments by the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments;

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following members be appointed to the Committee:

L Acton
L Armstrong of Ilminster
L Brett
V Eccles
B Fritchie
L Goodhart (Chairman)
B Gardner of Parkes
L McIntosh of Haringey
B Scott of Needham Market
L Shaw of Northstead;

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place within the United Kingdom;

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers.

The motion was agreed to.

14    Regulators The Chairman of Committees moved that a Select Committee be appointed to consider the regulatory process and that, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following members be appointed to the Committee:

E Arran
L Dubs
B Ford
L Garden
V Goschen
L MacGregor of Pulham Market
L McIntosh of Haringey (Chairman)
L Moonie
L Norton of Louth
B Prashar
L Ramsbotham
L Sharman;

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place;

That the Committee have power to report from time to time;

That the evidence taken by the Committee shall, if the Committee so wishes, be printed;

That the Committee do meet on Tuesday 28 November at ten o’clock.

The motion was agreed to.

15    Compensation (Claims Management Services) Regulations 2006

16    Compensation (Specification of Benefits) Order 2006

17    Compensation (Regulated Claims Management Services) Order 2006

18    Association of Law Costs Draftsmen Order 2006

19    Representation of the People (Combination of Polls) (England and Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2006

Lord Grocott, on behalf of the Lord President (Baroness Amos), moved that the instruments be referred to a Grand Committee en bloc. The motion was agreed to.

20    Business of the House Lord Grocott, on behalf of the Lord President (Baroness Amos), moved that the following motions be referred to a Grand Committee—

Baroness Byford to move that the Grand Committee do consider the Environmental Impact Assessment (Agriculture) (England) Regulations 2006 (SI 2006/2362). 46th Report from the Merits Committee

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Baroness Byford to move that the Grand Committee do consider the Environmental Impact Assessment (Agriculture) (England) (No. 2) Regulations 2006 (SI 2006/2522). 46th Report from the Merits Committee

The motion was agreed to.

21    Queen’s Speech The debate on the motion that a Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty was resumed and, after further debate, was again adjourned until Monday 27 November.

The House adjourned at 6.43pm until Monday 27 November at 2.30pm.

Papers

All statutory instruments laid before the House are accompanied by an Explanatory Memorandum presented by command of Her Majesty, unless otherwise indicated.

Affirmative Instruments

The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by resolution:

1    Draft Employment Act 2002 (Amendment of Schedules 3, 4 and 5) Order 2006, laid under the Employment Act 2002.

2    Draft Technology Strategy Board Order 2007, laid under the Science and Technology Act 1965.

3    Draft Films (Definition of “British Film”) (No. 2) Order 2006, laid under the Films Act 1985.

Negative Instruments

The following instruments were laid before the House:

1    Consumer Credit (Enforcement, Default and Termination Notices) (Amendment) Regulations 2006, laid under the Consumer Credit Act 1974.     (3094)

2    Enterprise Act 2002 (Enforcement Undertakings) (No. 2) Order 2006, laid under the Enterprise Act 2002.     (3095)

3    Banks (Former Authorised Institutions) (Insolvency) Order 2006, laid under the Insolvency Act 1986.     (3107)

4    Justice (Northern Ireland) Act 2002 (Addition of Listed Judicial Offices etc.) Order 2006, laid under the Justice (Northern Ireland) Act 2002.     (—)

Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings

The following papers were laid before the House:

1    Report and Accounts for 2005–06 of the Home-Grown Cereals Authority, laid under the Cereals Marketing Act 1965.

2  (1)  Accounts for 2005–06 of the Armagh Observatory and Planetarium

    (2)  Report and Accounts for 2005-06 of Invest Northern Ireland

laid under the Northern Ireland Act 2000.

3    Review from November 2006 of the Voluntary and Community Sector’s Contribution to the Northern Ireland Criminal Justice System, laid under the Justice (Northern Ireland) Act 2002.

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Judicial Business

Appeal Committee The 3rd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made:

Yeda Research and Development Company Limited (Petitioners) v. Rhone-Poulenc Rorer International Holdings Inc and others (Respondents) That leave to appeal be given; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 7 December.

Yeda Research and Development Company Limited (Petitioners) v. Rhone-Poulenc Rorer International Holdings Inc and others (Respondents) That the petition of the Comptroller-General of Patents, Designs and Trade Marks that he might be heard or otherwise intervene in the said petition for leave to appeal be allowed.