Select Committee on Communications Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 158 - 159)

WEDNESDAY 6 JUNE 2007

MR SHAUN WOODWARD AND MR ANDREW RAMSAY

  Q158  Chairman: Good morning. Welcome. Thank you very much to both of you for coming. Perhaps I should explain what we are doing. As you know, this is a new Committee which has been formed, it follows the Committee which looked at the BBC Charter and what we are doing now is examining the appointment and the role of the BBC Chairman, which is perhaps a natural follow-up to our work on the Charter Review. What we will do is examine the process by which the Chairman is appointed and whether that appointment should be scrutinised by Parliament. We will want to look at the terms of the service and contract of the new Chairman and really know how the Chairman sees his role and to what extent he has become a regulator. Basically speaking, that is what we are about, and we are very grateful for you both coming. Mr Woodward, you are Minister for Creative Industries and Tourism inside the DCMS; can you tell us first what that means: what do you do?

  Mr Woodward: Thank you very much indeed, Chairman, and let me start by saying thank you for asking us to appear this morning. For the benefit of the Committee, Andrew Ramsay is our senior civil servant, with responsibility for culture, creativity and economy in the Department. Andrew provides the continuity, which sometimes, I think, as you recognised yourself, Chairman, and ministers decide, is not provided by politicians, since he has been there from the beginning, as it were, and has seen this process through, so there will be moments when I will refer to him, and I have asked him to chip in, if it will be helpful to the Committee, on questions which you ask me. My title covers, as you rightly say, the creative industries and tourism. Tourism is relatively self-explanatory, worth something in the order of £85 billion a year to this economy. The creative industries, on which we are producing a Green Paper at the moment, covers the 13 industries, which include broadcasting, film, the music industry, architecture, advertising, software, video games, which represent now, as we will disclose in the report in a few months' time, 7.3 per cent of this country's GDP, employed a few years ago a million people, employ now 1.8 million people and actually now are larger than financial services in this country. We are better at the creative industries, broadcasting, film, music, than any other European country, and we are driving this area, which is a major source of growth for the UK economy in the 21st century. This does mean that broadcasting matters a great deal. Broadcasting represents nearly one per cent of GVA of our economy, it employs 110,000 people, it is a source of major exports and, because of the digital revolution, it is going through an extraordinary period of change, but nonetheless we have the proud position in the UK of being the primus inter pares of the broadcasting culture throughout the world. It is a great privilege to be looking after this area; it is one of which I have some understanding, having been in the BBC for nearly a decade in the 1980s and produced and edited a programme called That's Life, which went out to nearly 18 million viewers a week. Which is, I think, a record, in terms of being not only the BBC's number one programme at the time but something which now, I think, broadcasters look on with envy, because, of course, we live in a culture now of 300 television channels in which `on demand' television is the order of the future, as opposed to linear programming. It is an extraordinary moment for a politician to have charge of an area and who might know just a little bit about it.

  Q159  Chairman: I remember your top media job; you were Director of Communications at Conservative Central Office?

  Mr Woodward: I was; and then, My Lord Chairman, as you know, you were a different chairman as well. I will try to leave the partisan dimensions at the door.


 
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