Select Committee on European Union Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 640 - 642)

WEDNESDAY 21 MARCH 2007

MR ROBERT BEARDSMORE, MR ROBERT LINDO, MR MICHAEL ROBERTS AND MR OWEN ELIAS

  Q640  Lord Greaves: Could I ask, Lord Chairman, other things being equal, where would you see the industry in 20 years' time—or whatever timescale you want to think on?

  Mr Beardsmore: Could I make a comment. We had one of the top viticulturists in the world here in the summer last year, Dr Richard Smart. He has been involved in a number of growth areas, certainly New Zealand and now Tasmania—that is his homeland at the moment. Talking about how far we can go, he made the point that in his view we hit a threshold—he said it was 2,500 hectares, but there is nothing magical about the numbers—at which point, he said, in New Zealand the growth was absolutely exponential. He thinks that they are getting not far from it in Tasmania and that the same thing will happen again. His view was that he cannot say that it will happen in England and Wales, but we are on the same sort of mark. We have not hit that threshold yet, but if we do we could go from substantial growth potentially to exponential growth.

  Mr Roberts: If you draw the graph of the history of New Zealand on the same axis, then we are at about 1983 and they took off in 1992. The graph is very much the same, the history is the same in terms of varieties and changing to a world-class variety, and 20 years is a very short time in wine-growing, but it is the time that it probably does take to get into being world volume.

  Q641  Chairman: I suppose also that it is the fact that, over 20 years or so, the impact of climate change is significant, and that is going to take out a lot of the Mediterranean wines?

  Mr Beardsmore: One other issue that is key to being able to go from growth to a much faster growth—and we saw it in New Zealand—was that they had a number of wines there that were very good but they had to have a world-beating wine, and everybody knows that Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc is top of its class. We have now got an equivalent in the UK with sparkling wine. There are lots of other wines as well, very good still wines in England, but you have to have that one wine, particularly if you are a small producer, to make a difference and for people to notice you. So it is very positive in that respect.

  Q642  Chairman: I think that just about ends it, unless there is a critical bit that we have missed out which you think we ought to know.

  Mr Lindo: Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you.

  Chairman: Thank you. It was very interesting and very good. Thank you.


 
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