Select Committee on European Union Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witness (Questions 320-332)

Sir David Edward QC

13 DECEMBER 2006

  Q320  Chairman: He is qualified?

  Sir David Edward: He is qualified because in France there is no rule which says you must be a lawyer to be a judge of the Cour de Cassation.

  Q321  Chairman: I follow, but do you think, as a matter of fact, it is a good idea? Would you welcome it?

  Sir David Edward: I think we go back to this question of generalists against specialists. Economists can be as doctrinaire as anybody else and of course it would depend upon who the economist was, because the tendency of those who promote this idea is that they look for free market economists, but you would not necessarily get free market economists.

  Q322  Lord Jay of Ewelme: You would not exclude the right kind of economist?

  Sir David Edward: You might get a full Colbertiste.

  Lord Jay of Ewelme: You might, but you might get a liberal minded economist.

  Q323  Lord Lester of Herne Hill: Professor Basil Yamey.

  Sir David Edward: Yes. I think it is much easier to say, "Oh, wouldn't it be great", than actually to make sure that you have got the result that you want from it, if that is what you want.

  Q324  Chairman: Short of them becoming actual judges on whatever the tribunal may be, do you see any useful deployment of them either as assistant rapporteurs or in other such capacities, assessors?

  Sir David Edward: I think there can be, certainly as assessors, and again I go back to my point that if you had another body at the decision making stage rather than at the appeal stage, then you could certainly involve other people rather in the way that the CAT and the old Restrictive Practices Court did, and I do not see why not.

  Q325  Chairman: Can we look at what should happen to the CFI, assuming that it has less work, and let us assume that it does not really matter whether it is because of the creation of judicial panels or fresh chambers, or because they are shunting off their trademark work. Let us pretend they have more time than at the moment they need for their existing workload. Yes or no, would it be a good idea that they should hear preliminary references from the national court applying Community competition law?

  Sir David Edward: My answer to that is, provided it was limited to questions from national courts related exclusively to the interpretation and application of Articles 81 and 82. That is, in my experience, relatively rare.

  Q326  Chairman: And it would not have happened in the case of Crehan?

  Sir David Edward: Courage v Crehan. No, it would not.

  Q327  Chairman: Because really it was not that sort of a question?

  Sir David Edward: That is my difficulty. They do not come in nice little boxes. I would have to say there is clearly an argument for saying that the Court of Justice should not be the sole court which deals with preliminary references. For example, another field in which preliminary references might go to the CFI would be the interpretation of the Social Security Regulations.

  Q328  Chairman: Yes, I see. I am not sure, when we reach the final question that we had in mind to ask, concerning an "interim solution" that it is a particularly apt question for you, because I am not sure you see any present problem?

  Sir David Edward: It is not to say I do not see a problem, it is just that I do not know that this is the solution to it. I believe that the interim solution lies in something which could be done within the context of the merger regulation, requiring an order of prohibition to be vetted by somebody other than the staff of the Commission itself.

  Q329  Chairman: But that is a long-term solution as well as an interim solution?

  Sir David Edward: It could be. Experience would show whether it was a good one, but I do not see why it could not be done within the context of the existing regulation.

  Q330  Chairman: I had not sufficiently spotted that, but I think it is to be found in your original—

  Sir David Edward: No, it is something which came to me really from reading the evidence, but I did mention it in 1.4.

  Q331  Chairman: Exactly, and others have run with that, I think, including Temple Lang?

  Sir David Edward: Yes, very much. We are both singing from the same hymn sheet in that respect.

  Q332  Chairman: Unless any other Member of the Committee has any question for you, I think that brings this to an end, and it remains for me just to thank you very much indeed, Sir David, for coming and giving us a huge amount of assistance. Nobody is better placed really to give us insights into the nature and solution of the problem. Thank you very much indeed.

  Sir David Edward: Thank you very much. As always, it is a pleasure to appear before this Committee.





 
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