Select Committee on Merits of Statutory Instruments Sixteenth Report


APPENDIX: DRAFT GAMBLING (GEOGRAPHICAL DISTRIBUTION OF CASINO PREMISES LICENCES) ORDER 2007: CORRESPONDENCE


Letter from the Rt Hon. Tessa Jowell MP, Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport to the Chairman

1. Thank you for providing a copy of the 13th Report. The Committee is to be congratulated on the thorough job it has done in the very short time available to it.

2. However, in view of the critical importance of this Order to many local authorities and businesses throughout the country, I should write to clarify some apparent misunderstandings at the heart of the Committee's conclusion that the Order may imperfectly achieve its policy objectives.

Minimisation of harm from gambling

3. One of the most fundamental arguments made by the Committee, and one which runs throughout the report, is that the Casino Advisory Panel should have placed greater emphasis on the minimisation of harm from gambling. I should explain that this was not the primary consideration we set for the Panel.

4. The criteria against which the Panel would assess submissions were set out in the Government's national policy statement on casinos, published on 16 December 2004, which makes reference to the protection of children and vulnerable people. In paragraph 10 of its report, the Panel noted that the Department had asked it to have due regard to the national policy statement.

5. The Panel's primary consideration was to ensure that the locations provide the best possible test of social impact. Subject to this, the criteria were also:

  • to include areas in need of regeneration (as measured by employment and other social deprivation data)
  • to ensure that those areas selected are willing to licence a new casino.

6. I did not ask the Panel to make final recommendations based exclusively on the minimisation of harm from gambling. If the Panel had done so, it would not have been following its remit.

7. It is the role of the Gambling Commission to monitor and minimise any harm that might arise from new casino gambling. It was the job of the Casino Advisory Panel to select locations that are best able to be monitored rigorously. I am satisfied that is exactly what they have done.

Consideration of licensing objectives

8. That is not to say that the Panel did not take the licensing objectives, and the minimisation of harm into account when framing its recommendations. In this context, I note the Committee's suggestion that the Panel gave greater prominence to economic factors and less to the minimisation of harm from gambling, and concludes that the objectives of the Order have, as a result, been undermined. The Government does not accept this view.

9. The Panel set out its approach very clearly at paragraphs 83 & 84 of its report:

"it is clear to us…that among the many ways 'regeneration' may be defined, it must be holistic, to include not only physical and environmental regeneration, best expressed by the older term "redevelopment", but also a wide spectrum of social and economic considerations.

Moreover, we note that the 2005 Act sets out 'licensing objectives' related to preventing crime and disorder and the protection of children and young persons from harm. Not only are these considerations implicit therefore in providing the best test of social impact, but are also essential considerations regarding regeneration as we see it."

10. It is worth explaining the interplay between the work of the Panel and the licensing objectives set out in the Gambling Act 2005:

  • preventing gambling from being a source of crime or disorder, being associated with crime or disorder or being used to support crime
  • ensuring that gambling is conducted in a fair and open way
  • protecting children and other vulnerable persons from being harmed or exploited by gambling

11. The new regime brought in under the Gambling Act is the primary tool at our disposal for achieving these objectives. The Gambling Commission is a tough new regulator at the heart of arguably the most rigorous regulatory system, short of prohibition, anywhere in the world. Within that overall framework, our national policy on casinos is designed to further these objectives, whilst at the same time acknowledging the legitimate desire on the part of many local authorities to explore the potential economic and regenerative benefits of new casinos.

12. That is why the seventeen new casinos form part of a pilot and why the terms of reference we set for the panel required it to identify a series of locations that would facilitate the best possible test of the social impact of that pilot. Had we asked the panel to concentrate solely on the minimising harm, we would not have a proper basis on which to make future decisions, jeopardising the Government's ability to meet the objective in future.

13. We have commissioned a group of academics led by Lancaster university to advise on the methodology for the assessment of the impact of the new casinos and we intend to begin work on the baseline study before the end of the year.

Consideration of areas versus sites

14. I should perhaps turn to another central theme of the Committee's report; that an individual local authority given the power to award a new casino licences is free to issue the licence to any site within the authority area. This was set out in the national policy statement in 2004, and has not been challenged since. The Panel built this into its considerations. At paragraph 23 of its published report it states:

"We regarded it as fundamental that our decisions should not be based on the perceived site-specific advantages of a particular applicant for a licence. In the event that we were to recommend to the Secretary of State an area involving a specific site proposal, it followed under the legislation that the local authority would nevertheless need to comply with requirements for inviting competing applications as provided for by Schedule 9 of the 2005 Act".

It goes on to say at paragraph 88 that:

"Our remit, however, is too look at areas rather than sites and we have very much focussed on that".

Destination casinos

15. Paragraph 17 of the Committee's report records a short exchange between you and Professor Crow on the subject of "destination casinos". I believe there are two points that are worth making to assist the forthcoming debates:

  • The City of Manchester is, in its own right, a very important destination; apart from 2002 when it appeared fourth in the rankings, in each of the years 2001-2005 (the latest date for which we have figures), Manchester was the third most important overseas tourist destination in the UK, behind only London and Edinburgh.
  • It is sometimes overlooked that Professor Crow and the panel have made recommendations for 17 casinos in total, not just the sole regional casino. The overall package includes some authorities that include coastal resorts within their areas.

Supportive evidence

16. Finally, I note that amongst the impressive collection of evidence the Committee has collated in the short period of time it has had to consider the matter are several submissions which, broadly speaking, commend the Panel, the process it has followed and the recommendations it has made. It is not clear from the Committee's report that those views have been taken sufficiently into account.

17. I am firmly of the view that the Panel has done exactly what I asked of it; and in so doing has enabled me to bring forward an Order that secures the achievement of the Government's policy objectives.

21 March 2007

Letter from Professor Stephen Crow CB, Chairman of the Casino Advisory Panel, to the Chairman

1. On behalf of the Casino Advisory Panel I would like to thank your Committee for providing me with the opportunity to give oral evidence on their behalf on 13 March 2007. The Panel has now had the opportunity to consider your 13th Report and feel it is important to place on record what they believe to be a small number of misconceptions.

2. But before I do that, may I say that I am pleased that your Committee has recognised and acknowledged that we carried out our work in an honest and transparent manner.

3. You are aware, I know, that the Panel examined a significant volume of material during the course of its work over a 16 month period commencing October 2005. The list of documents formally submitted to the Panel is set out as Annex H to our Final Report. This listing alone extends to 29 pages. Oral evidence was also heard at seven separate Examination in Public sessions in respect of shortlisted regional proposals. The taped record of the Examination in Public sessions has been made available to interested parties on request. At no time were transcripts promised.

4. On the basis of the very considerable amount of evidence received and our careful analysis over the last 16 months the Panel continues to feel confident of its conclusions and recommendations. We are heartened by the fact that the substantial majority of those who provided written evidence to the Select Committee, including a number of unsuccessful bidders for the Regional casino, supported the process, the report and the recommendations of the Panel. The Panel is not at all surprised that a small number of the Local Authorities that were unsuccessful should express their disappointment in different ways.

Minimisation of Harm from Gambling

5. The Panel is very concerned that your Committee (at paragraph 36) concludes that we did not give high priority to the minimisation of harmful effects to the community. This is just not so. At paragraph 12 of our Final Report we made it clear that social impact considerations, both positive and negative, were implicit in both our remitted criterion about the best possible test and also in our criteria concerning regeneration. Not only did we accord much weight to this consideration, one Panel Member was appointed particularly for his expertise in matters of social impact and was well able to analyse issues relating to the negative impacts of gambling.

6. So our call for proposals specifically probed local authorities on their experience and proposals for minimising harmful social impacts. This consideration was then followed up in our subsequent round of further questions.

7. In relation to the regional casino proposals, at every Examination in Public session relating to the regional casino, we invited oral evidence from a range of organisations concerned with social problems of gambling and in particular the local concerns for ambient gambling in that particular area. These are listed in Annex J of our Final Report. They include local residents associations, the police, the Salvation Army, Quakers, Christian Institute, NHS Primary Care Trusts, Faith Groups, and regional gambling addiction organisations. All this evidence left us in no doubt, if we had any before, of the problems involved, in particular the problems of impulse gambling. The evidence also, just as helpfully, told of the steps necessary to minimise such problems.

8. It was as a result of hearing such evidence that we became very confident of the ability of agencies in Manchester, more than anywhere else, to manage the minimisation of harm from gambling effectively. But it will be for the Gambling Commission, not us, monitor and minimise any harm that might develop in any of the 17 recommended areas.

"Doorstep" and "Destination"

9. Our Panel throughout was well aware of the research on the "destination casino" concept in that it seeks to minimise adverse social impact by placing some distance between the casino and the nearest residential area. The example of the casino at Dortmund, about which you asked me in the oral hearing, provides good evidence of this point. Situated in the woods some 11km to the south of the City Centre, and some 3 km from the nearest southern suburb, it is clear that a definite decision to visit has to be made by every visitor. In this respect it is a good example of "destination casino". Yet, as I said in evidence, its regeneration effect has been nil.

10. It was inevitable that once regeneration came into our terms of reference that urban areas would rank more highly than others against our criteria. Indeed, the very substantial majority of original bidders for the regional casino were urban local authorities, who recognised and sought such regeneration.

11. The question before us in relation to adverse social impact therefore was in which of the areas proposed this consideration would be minimised. Here the question became in which of the areas it would be possible to provide a location that was not of necessity on the doorstep of residential areas, especially of areas already containing social problems. A number of the big cities that we considered (including Manchester) answered well to this consideration, but not Blackpool, where the site proposed by the Borough Council lies next to the most deprived area of the town. This was described in written evidence before us as "Blackpool is an area of high resident vulnerability to problem gambling" and "Blackpool residents, as compared to those in the areas surrounding the location of other bids, will be especially vulnerable with regards [to] the psychological impact of Category A (unlimited jackpot) machines." (The evidence of Professor Mark Griffiths of the International Gaming Research Unit at Nottingham Trent University). It was this evidence, among other written and oral evidence, that led to the note of caution concerning problems of ambient gambling in Blackpool in our Final Report (paragraph 116).

12. Please forgive me if, for the benefit less well informed readers than yourself I now refer to our terms of reference. The primary consideration given to us by DCMS was to ensure that locations provided the best test of social impact. Subject to that, one of the criteria was also to include areas in need of regeneration (as measured by employment and other social deprivation data) and which were likely to benefit in those terms from a new casino. In order to ensure that the impact of the new casinos could be assessed on the basis of a broad range of information and experience, we were asked also to identify areas which would provide a good range of types of areas and a good geographical spread of areas across Britain. What was not in our criteria was the desirability of producing a "destination casino". Had it been so, the exercise from the beginning would have been different. It is likely too, that different local authorities may have put forward proposals had the criteria been different.

Profitability

13. In considering the criterion "likely to benefit" in regeneration terms from a new casino, it was necessary to consider economic impact. In particular it was necessary to consider the likely relative success of the locations proposed in order to compare the relative scale of benefits that could occur and be provided. Of course in the expected monopoly situation that the legislation provides there is little chance of a casino not being developed, but we remain firmly of the view that some locations are likely to attract a greater level of inward investment, be more successful than others, and so yield greater benefits. This is an opinion founded on the experience of Panel Members with practical experience in the field, and with great respect, we consider that on this matter your Committee at paragraph 17 has not come to a proper assessment of the issues involved.

Site Specificity

14. While all the authorities shortlisted for a regional casino recognised both the requirement of the Act for a competitive licensing process and also that the Panel was concerned with selecting local authority areas and not specific sites, they all had clear local regeneration needs and clear planning frameworks for the development of their areas which understandably led them to a preference for particular parts of their area as a site for a casino. We, as a Panel, found such an approach quite acceptable, and it did not compromise in any way our ability to meet our terms of reference.

Methodology

15. Your Committee's Report at paragraph 25 well summarises the distinction between our initial sifting process and our later consideration of the shortlisted proposals. A full account of our decision making processes is given at Annexes G and K of our Final Report, and we are surprised that some critics found the processes difficult to understand.

Conclusion

16. Finally, we would like to reiterate that we conducted our work in a rigorous and professional manner, and we stand confidently by the recommendations made to the Secretary of State.

17. The Panel is more than content that the contents of this letter are in the public domain and may be the subject of public record.

26 March 2007


 
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