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[Amendment No. 137 not moved.]

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendment No. 138:

“( ) if made by virtue of subsection (1)(a), shall specify the account in respect of which it is made; and”

On Question, amendment agreed to.

The Chairman of Committees: If Amendment No. 139 is agreed to, I shall not be able to call the following two amendments in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, for reasons of pre-emption.

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendment No. 139:

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendments Nos. 140 and 141 not moved.]

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendments Nos. 142 to 144:

( ) if the order is made in respect of a joint account, the other account-holders.”

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On Question, amendments agreed to.

[Amendment No. 145 not moved.]

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendment No. 146:

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendment No. 147 not moved.]

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendment No. 148:

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendment No. 149 not moved.]

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendment No. 150:

“( ) if the interim order was made by virtue of section 32D(1)(a), shall specify the account specified in the interim order;”

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendment No. 151 not moved.]

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendments Nos. 152 to 154:

“( ) ”“( ) if the order is made in respect of a joint account, shall not exceed the amount that appears to the Commission to be fair in all the circumstances.(a) to the amount contributed to the account by each of the account-holders; and(b) to such other matters as may be prescribed.”

On Question, amendments agreed to.

[Amendment No. 155 not moved.]

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendment No. 156:

( ) if the order is made in respect of a joint account, the other account-holders.”

On Question, amendment agreed to.

The Chairman of Committees: If Amendment No. 157 is agreed to, I shall not be able to call Amendment No. 158, which is in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, for reasons of pre-emption.



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Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendment No. 157:

(a) begins with the service of the order on the deposit-taker or third party at which it is directed; and(b) (subject to subsection (6)) ends with the end of the period during which an appeal can be brought against the order by virtue of regulations under section 32G(6).(a) proceedings on the appeal (including any proceedings on a further appeal) have been concluded; and(b) any period during which a further appeal may ordinarily be brought has ended.(a) if the amount standing to the credit of the account is less than the remaining amount, to pay to the Commission the amount standing to the credit of the account; and(b) otherwise, to deduct from the account and pay to the Commission the remaining amount.(a) to pay to the Commission any amount (not exceeding the remaining amount) standing to the credit of the account specified in the order; and(b) not to do anything else that would reduce the amount standing to the credit of the account.(a) if the amount due to the liable person is less than the remaining amount, to pay to the Commission the amount due to the liable person; and(b) otherwise, to deduct from the amount due to the liable person and pay to the Commission the remaining amount.

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(a) to pay to the Commission any amount (not exceeding the remaining amount) due to the liable person; and(b) not to do anything else that would reduce any amount due to the liable person.(a) the time at which the remaining amount is paid;(b) the time at which the order lapses or is discharged; and(c) the time at which a prescribed event occurs or prescribed circumstances arise;(a) by the deposit-taker or third party at which the order under section 32D or 32E is directed;(b) by the liable person; and(c) if the order is made in respect of a joint account, by any of the other account-holders.(a) provision with respect to the period within which a right of appeal under the regulations may be exercised;(b) provision with respect to the powers of the court to which the appeal under the regulations lies.”

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendment No. 158 not moved.]

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendments Nos. 159 to 164:

“( ) as to circumstances in which amounts standing to the credit of an account are to be disregarded for the purposes of sections 32D, 32EA and 32EB;”“(c) allowing a deposit-taker or third party at which an order under section 32E is directed to deduct from the amount standing to the credit of the account specified in the order, or due to the liable person, a prescribed amount towards its administrative costs before making any payment to the Commission required by section 32EB;”

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On Question, amendments agreed to.

[Amendment No. 165 not moved.]

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendment No. 166:

On Question, amendment agreed to.

The Chairman of Committees: If Amendment No. 167 is agreed to, I shall not be able to call Amendment No. 168 for reasons of pre-emption.

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendment No. 167:

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendments Nos. 168 and 169 not moved.]

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendments Nos. 170 to 171:

On Question, amendments agreed to.

The Chairman of Committees: If Amendment No. 172 is agreed to, I shall not be able to call Amendment No. 173 for reasons of pre-emption.

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendment No. 172:

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendment No. 173 not moved.]

Lord Addington moved Amendment No. 174:

The noble Lord said: I shall speak briefly to this amendment as its subject matter may be dealt with in government amendments to come. For the convenience of the Committee, I beg to move.

Lord McKenzie of Luton: In speaking to Amendment No. 174, I shall speak also to government Amendments Nos. 175 to 177, 215 and 217. I thank the noble Lord for moving Amendment

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No. 174, which seeks to give the commission the power to make an administrative freezing order in relation to any real property and capital as soon as a non-resident parent has missed a payment of child support maintenance. As part of this group I propose government amendments which enable the freezing of non-resident parents’ assets. I hope that my explanation of these amendments will cover the point raised.

In Committee in another place, the Government agreed to consider an amendment that would provide the commission with a power to apply, in appropriate circumstances, to the court for a freezing order. Following that consideration, the Government agree that this would be a useful addition to the commission’s enforcement tools. The government amendment would apply where there is evidence that a non-resident parent is about to dispose of assets or remove them from the commission’s jurisdiction with the intention of avoiding payment of child maintenance. It would enable the commission to apply to the court for an order freezing those assets. Indeed, we propose to go one stage further. The government amendment would also enable the commission to ask the court to satisfy the disposition which had already been made. The court will also be given the power to make consequential directions and orders as it sees fit to give effect to the order.

The number of cases in which the commission will have firm evidence of the non-resident parent’s intention to dispose of his assets is likely to be very small; nevertheless, the provisions will enable the commission to act quickly to secure maintenance where such evidence comes to light. It will act as a deterrent to non-resident parents who would otherwise be prepared to enter into transactions to prevent enforcement of their parental responsibilities.

I recognise the sentiment behind Amendment No. 174, but, as I said, it is the same as what I have just outlined. As drafted, the power to freeze assets as described would be a step too far. Not only would there be practical and operational difficulties for the commission, the commission would be given administrative powers comparable to those operated by the High Court but without appeal rights. The noble Lord’s amendment would give the commission the power to make an administrative order which would freeze all assets and it would apply equally to those assets owned wholly or jointly by a non-resident parent and could be applied as soon as a payment for child maintenance had been missed. The freezing order would remain in force until the outstanding arrears had been settled. That provision does not contain any safeguards in relation to the exercise of this power, nor is there a right of appeal, as I said.

In considering whether the proposal is proportionate, we need to bear in mind that the commission will have several additional enforcement options that are not currently available to the Child Support Agency. They include, as we have discussed, lump sum deduction orders, which will allow the commission to freeze and then seize assets from a number of different types of accounts. I believe that the collection and enforcement provisions will go a

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long way towards meeting the aims behind the noble Lord’s amendment. I invite him to withdraw his amendment and to support the government amendments.

Lord Addington: The words “sledgehammer” and “nut” come to mind. I think that our concern was justified and that we were right to raise it, and I thank the Government for including something which seems to have a slightly weightier blow behind it. Having said that, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Clause 22, as amended, agreed to.

Lord McKenzie of Luton moved Amendment No. 175:

After section 32H of the Child Support Act 1991 (inserted by section 22 of this Act) insert—(a) has failed to pay an amount of child support maintenance, and(b) with the intention of avoiding payment of child support maintenance, is about to make a disposition or to transfer out of the jurisdiction or otherwise deal with any property,for an order restraining or, in Scotland, interdicting the person from doing so.(a) has failed to pay an amount of child support maintenance, and(b) with the intention of avoiding payment of child support maintenance, has at any time made a reviewable disposition,for an order setting aside or, in Scotland, reducing the disposition.(a) a disposition or other dealing with property which is about to take place, or(b) a disposition which took place after the making of the application on which the maintenance calculation concerned was made.(a) in a case falling within subsection (1), that the disposition or other dealing would (apart from this section) have the consequence of making ineffective a step that has been or may be taken to recover the amount outstanding, or
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