Select Committee on Communications Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 900 - 904)

WEDNESDAY 14 NOVEMBER 2007

Mr Ed Richards and Mr Peter Phillips

  Q900  Chairman: Were you surprised by the Competition Commission's view in that interim statement that it did not consider pluralism of news an issue?

  Mr Richards: We were a little surprised, yes. We are pretty relaxed about it, though, because they found a concern in relation to competition. As a result of finding a concern in relation to competition, they have raised the question about the appropriateness and the appropriate level and conditions of that shareholding, and therefore the issue will be addressed through that means. We are therefore pretty relaxed about where we are.

  Q901  Chairman: You are relaxed because it will be reviewed under a more general heading?

  Mr Richards: There were two routes into the issue: one was plurality and one was competition. We expressed concerns about both. They have chosen to agree on the competition grounds. They both lead you to the same endpoint, which is whether the shareholding, at that level and with those conditions, is appropriate. They have said that they do not think that it is and there needs to be a change to the conditions that are attached to it or to the level, and we end up at the same point. We were a little surprised at the finding on plurality, but I think that we have reached the same endpoint.

  Q902  Chairman: You triggered the process in a sense, but now it is all down to the Competition Commission and the secretary of state?

  Mr Richards: That is right.

  Q903  Chairman: There is one last question as far as I am concerned. Does Ofcom believe that quotas for news provision are enforceable, or indeed desirable, after digital switchover?

  Mr Richards: In some areas they are likely to be enforceable, but potentially to a lesser degree than they have been prior to it. Whether or not it is the right mechanism by which to ensure a plurality and diversity of news provision is precisely what we are looking at in the PSB review. In relation to the desirability of the end which you are seeking to achieve through those quotas, our answer is unequivocally yes. Do we want to see a plural, diverse range of high-quality news in this country pre-switchover and post-switchover? Unequivocally, yes. We would regard this as one of the central purposes of public service broadcasting, of whatever system, today and in the future. It ranks most highly from our own perspective and our own judgement; it ranks most highly from the general public, when we ask them what they care about in public service broadcasting. It is an issue on which we therefore feel very strongly. In relation to meeting our duties which we were set by Parliament to further the interests of citizens as well as consumers, I think that this is very near the top of the tree.

  Q904  Chairman: I would like to thank both of you for coming today. You have given your evidence with great clarity. There may be issues which we would like to come back to on this. We have covered a vast area and we would perhaps like to concentrate later on one or two issues. Perhaps we could negotiate with you about a further appearance at some stage in the New Year.

  Mr Richards: I am sure that we would be delighted.

  Chairman: Thank you very much.





 
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