Examination of Witnesses (Questions 780
- 799)
780. MR REED: I may well have put the
position wrongly, and to the extent I did I apologise for that.
Certainly that is what I am being told is the actual distance.
781. LORD SNAPE: It is the 850?
782. MR REED: That is correct.
783. CHAIRMAN: It depends on the way
you go, Mr Reed, does it not? There is a big one-way system for
road-users, is there not?
784. MR REED: There is, my Lord.
785. CHAIRMAN: So somebody will have
to tell us what is the route that you are going to take, whether
it is 600 or 850 metres.
786. MR REED: Mr West will deal with
that. As I understand it, it was the shortest pedestrian route
through.
787. If I can turn to the question of the numbers
of people within the vicinity of the Manor Park and Maryland Stations
that are proposed to access those two stations in the future,
my Lord, we will no doubt deal with that with Mr Berryman but
I say, at this stage, that there appears to be, in terms of whether
that criterion is met at Maryland or Manor Park, a degree of inconsistency
when it is applied there as opposed to other locations, but I
will not deal with the detail of that at this stage; I wait to
hear what Mr Berryman has to say.
788. On the incidence of disabled people in
the population surrounding those two areas, my Lord, I have not
been provided with any details on that on the part of Newham and
my clients have not been provided with those details either. We
do not expect there to be any further details coming forward on
that, despite the fact that that was identified as a particular
criterion justifying the station or not.
789. CHAIRMAN: You have given us figures
from the DWP Information Directorate.
790. MR REED: My Lord, we have but, in
terms of projected numbers—that is to say in terms of the
incidence of disability within and about the area of those particular
locations—that is something that Crossrail themselves have
not provided. In truth, we have but it is something that Crossrail
themselves have not provided.
791. CHAIRMAN: Maybe you know, as the
local authority.
792. MR REED: My Lord, it was one of
the criteria that was set out by Crossrail as to why it was they
reached the decision that they did. One would have expected, in
those circumstances, to have some reference.
793. Lastly, I turn to the question of the capital
costs criterion. My Lord, we have just been told the capital costs
in respect of Manor Park today of some £12 million and, as
yet, we do not fully understand how that figure has been arrived
at. Mr Berryman will no doubt deal with it and when he does then,
no doubt, we can find out the extent to which that cost is directly
referable to the disabled works or accessibility works that are
proposed at Manor Park. As yet we have not heard anything on the
costs applicable for Maryland. No doubt, again, we will hear what
is said.
794. My Lord, what we do say is that insufficient
importance has been given to the need for maintaining full accessibility
at those two stations in the light of the expected numbers that
will be coming to those stations in future. My Lord, no doubt
Mr West will deal with that when he comes to give evidence.
795. My Lord, that is all I propose to say,
by way of opening, and unless you have any questions arising from
that I propose to call Mr West. Can I point out one matter from
what my Lord, Lord Snape, pointed out in respect of the 700-metre
distance? The reason I had that figure in my mind was because
that was the official response that was given by the Promoters
to our Petition. They said it was 700 metres rather than 600 metres.
796. LORD SNAPE: You do not know, Mr
Reed, where the 600-metre figure came from?
797. MR REED: From Ms Lieven.
MR DOMINIC
WEST, sworn Examined by
MR REED
798. MR REED: Mr West, could you introduce
yourself, please, to the Committee?
(Mr West) Yes, my
Lords. My name is Dominic West, I hold a Bachelor Honours Degree
in Town Planning and am a member of the Royal Town Planning Institute.
I am employed by the London Borough of Newham as the Group Leader
for Transportation and I have been involved in planning and public
transport matters for over 25 years. I have previously worked
for the London Borough of Camden where I was the officer responsible
for dealing with Crossrail issues in the original Bill in 1994,
so I have had some experience of Crossrail over a considerable
number of years.
799. Just so that we can orientate ourselves,
I think, on the first slide that has come up we can see the location
of Newham.[34]
Is that right?
(Mr West) That is right. We are an inner London
borough to the East of London.
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