Select Committee on the Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 1820 - 1839)

  1820. Walk along here (indicating) on the north side of the tracks to rejoin the existing footpath, yes?
  (Mr Graham) Yes.

  1821. So they do not have to share a busy road bridge as they did under the Chequer Bridge proposal?
  (Mr Graham) That is right.

  1822. Can we look then at another of your photographs, photo K?[28] This is a photograph taken from the footpath, is that right, of Dog Kennel Bridge?

  (Mr Graham) That is right.

  1823. Can we put up our 23, please, and just establish exactly where this is taken from. My understanding is that it is just there?[29]

  (Mr Graham) Yes, to the railings of the fence.

  1824. If I could put up our photo, please, I would suggest that it is slightly deceptive, your photograph K, is it not, because in order to have taken that photograph you would have to put the camera through the fence?[30]

  (Mr Graham) Yes. I said that just now.

  1825. In terms of the human view, you see Dog Kennel Bridge only through this closed metal fence, do you not?

    (Mr Graham) It is not closed.

  1826. You see Dog Kennel Bridge through that fence, do you not?
  (Mr Graham) Yes.

  1827. The last point relates to what you said at the end of your statement because it may be there is a slight misunderstanding here. You suggest at paragraph 22 that we have failed to produce the costs of a simple replacement footbridge.
  (Mr Graham) I did not say that, well I hope I did not. I hope I did not mean that.

  1828. What you say is, you asked the Promoter to provide a detailed cost break of providing a simple replacement footbridge but they have not done so. We did produce costs in the House of Commons of providing a simple replacement footbridge, did we not?
  (Mr Graham) But not a breakdown.

  1829. What you want is a detailed breakdown, is it?
  (Mr Graham) It was difficult to argue with an overall estimate of cost, which I think was in the region of £1.2 million or something.

  1830. Mr Berryman will give evidence on that in a minute.
  (Mr Graham) Well, funding in that order. It was a single figure and it was difficult for us as laymen. I am not a railway person, I am hardly even a footpath person, but it was difficult to criticise an overall figure. All I know is that in 1990 the County Council engineers produced a figure of £150,000 and I was trying to reconcile the two and I found it impossible to do so.

  1831. To be absolutely clear, there is no issue that we have consistently produced figures for the cost of the replacement bridge. What you are concerned about is the breakdown of that cost, is that right?
  (Mr Graham) Yes.

  1832. MS LIEVEN: Thank you very much.

  1833. MR SUGGETT: My Lords, I have no re-examination.

  1834. CHAIRMAN: Has anybody got any questions?

Re-examined by THE COMMITTEE

  1835. CHAIRMAN: Mr Graham, can you tell me a bit more about the Colne Valley Regional Park Authority. You say in paragraph eight that maintaining, if there is one, a right of way across Dog Kennel Bridge is one of their key objectives, what are their other key objectives?

  (Mr Graham) They have a raft. It extends all the way from Staines in the south to Rickmansworth in the north, a distance of about 25 miles.

  1836. How does this fit in with the other key objectives? Have you got any document at all which shows this?

   (Mr Graham) Mr Suggett has the whole document.

  1837. MR SUGGETT: That said, I must confess I do not have it with me.
  (Mr Graham) Briefly, the Colne Valley Regional Park is an association of all the local authorities in the area—Surrey, Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire et cetera and London ones as well and voluntary groups and businesses that combine in a lower level kind of national park way to produce the best possible outcome for that urban fringe Colne Valley area for both local people and for people in London and major conurbations coming to use it as green belt land. Part of that includes public access. I have said in my evidence that this is one of the narrowest parts of the Colne Valley. I said it is 25 miles long, in places it is barely a couple of miles wide and at this particular point in Iver there are only two paths that run north and south through the Colne Valley between Slough on one side and West Drayton, part of Hillingdon Borough on the other; Iver 15 is one of the only two paths that go through open countryside.

  1838. It is for exactly this sort of reason that I wanted to know some more details and you have not got anything to show us?
  (Mr Graham) Not to hand.

  1839. LORD BROOKE OF ALVERTHORPE: Why do they want to maintain vehicle access when there is no vehicle access at the moment, as far as I can see?
  (Mr Graham) Sorry, I have to go back to that particular page, page eight. I must confess, I do not know. I included the quote in full. The only person who has vehicle access rights are the owners of the land either side. We are certainly not campaigning for vehicle access rights and I do not know why that is in there.



28   Committee Ref: A11, View of Dog Kennel Bridge from Footpath 15A (BUCKCC-10_05-011) Back

29   Crossrail Ref: P17, View of railway fence from Footpath 15A (SCN-20080303-004) Back

30   Committee Ref: A11, View of Dog Kennel Bridge from Footpath 15A (BUCKCC-10_05-011) Back


 
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