Examination of Witnesses (Questions 4600
4600. CHAIRMAN: The Commons had powers
to ask for additional provisions.
4601. MR HORTON: Yes.
4602. CHAIRMAN: They would therefore
have had powers to ask for additional provisions to deal with
a different alignment between Liverpool Street and Whitechapel.
4603. MR HORTON: But the Commons, as
I understand it, because the Petitioners did not raise this until
the course of argument on AP3, took the view that it could not
properly be raised in the context of AP3 because that was considering
a specific additional provision.
4604. CHAIRMAN: But they were empowered
to ask for additional provisions, and indeed they did sonot
here, but elsewhere.
4605. MR HORTON: As I understand it,
they took the view that they did not have that power in relation
to such a request, in relation to route B, raised in the context
of Additional Provision 3.
4606. CHAIRMAN: I do not know what Additional
Provision 3 was. I have heard of it. I am not talking about Additional
4607. MR HORTON: No, I know you are not.
4608. CHAIRMAN: What I am saying is that
the House of Commons Select Committee had powers to ask for additional
provisions to be made, petitioned upon and decided, did they not?
4609. MR HORTON: Yes.
4610. CHAIRMAN: They did not ask for
one to deal with this route.
4611. MR HORTON: No.
4612. CHAIRMAN: We cannot do it.
4613. MR HORTON: What actually happened,
if I understand it, is that the Promoters, bizarrely, perhaps
concernedI know notabout the apparent lack of attention
given to southern alignments generically, you may recollect, gave
an undertaking to the Commons to give further consideration to
southern alignments. That was what resulted in the October 2007
Mott MacDonald report, but, extraordinarily, they avoided in the
course of that considering route B. They considered just about
everything one could think of except route B in that.
4614. CHAIRMAN: But they had powers to
ask for additional provisions which would have included route
B, did they not?
4615. MR HORTON: May I just take one
moment? (Pause for instructions)
4616. CHAIRMAN: You are having lots of
help, Mr Horton. I hope it is producing results.
4617. MR HORTON: My Lord, you have been
very patient and I am very grateful to your Lordships and my Lady.
At the Committee stage in the Commons, the main Committee stage,
your Petitioners knew nothing of route B; that is a fact. These
reports had not been disclosed, and so at that stage when the
Commons had the powers
4618. CHAIRMAN: Do you mean to say the
Select Committee stage?
4619. MR HORTON: Yes. I beg your pardon.