Select Committee on the Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 6660 - 6679)

  6660. MR HICKS: The EMI point is not that the circumstances are the same but that the remedy is the same. There is no reason why they cannot give an undertaking in similar terms to EMI to deal with this point.

The Petition of The Petition of City of London Corporation

  6661. LORD BROOKE OF ALVERTHORPE: Mr Hicks, have you explored the possibility of an additional clause to the effect that, in the expectation that the Promoters will purchase but in the event that they did not, they would recompense you for the interest charges?

  6662. MR HICKS: That would be a possibility, my Lord. I was hoping that if it was thought that there was value in this point the simplest way to do it was by a simple undertaking because it is clear and simple. Of course one could explore additional provisions. I had hoped that it would not be necessary to do so. If your Committee thought there was some point in our petition I am sure we could explore that with the Promoters.

  6663. CHAIRMAN: We cannot explore it with the Promoters, can we?

  6664. MR HICKS: No, but, my Lord, you could do as the Committee in the House below did, urge them to do something about it.

  6665. CHAIRMAN: Yes, we could urge them to enter into an undertaking in the terms that they have put before us on the screen. You do not think that is good enough; we might.

  6666. MR HICKS: You might, my Lord. The issue is whether you urge them to do a little bit more.

  6667. CHAIRMAN: Yes.

  6668. MR MOULD: Mr Hicks obviously has the last word. I suspect he has just had it. I am not proposing to say anything else.

  6669. CHAIRMAN: I think that is as far as we can take it. We will have to decide whether to urge them to do a little bit more. Mr Mould, just before Mr Hicks goes, would it be in order for us to suggest that you turn this commitment into an undertaking?

  6670. MR MOULD: It would be in order and I hope I have indicated that that is what we are very happy to do, but it is this commitment, not another commitment.

  6671. CHAIRMAN: It is not good enough for Mr Hicks but that is something which you would be prepared to do?

  6672. MR MOULD: Yes.

  6673. BARONESS FOOKES: Half a loaf may be better than none.

  6674. CHAIRMAN: Very well. Thank you very much, Mr Hicks. Now, Ms Lieven?

  6675. MS LIEVEN: My Lords, I am only standing up to say first of all we have agreed on all counts with the City Corporation, so no more needs to be said on that.

  6676. CHAIRMAN: That is the Barbican?

  6677. MS LIEVEN: That is the Barbican and the Isle of Dogs. Everything is agreed. It is all going to be set out in an agreement between us and them, so I do not think there is any need to say any more about it. The only other thing to deal with this morning is to give your Lordships a quick word about next week's business.

  6678. CHAIRMAN: Just before you do that, plainly one of the things that you have dealt with in relation to the Barbican is noise levels in the theatre.

  6679. MS LIEVEN: Indeed, my Lord.



 
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