Examination of Witnesses (Questions 6940
6940. CHAIRMAN: In the same terms?
6941. MR CAMERON: There were four options
put before the House of Commons which included these two options.
We had an additional option that we put forward, the effect of
which would have been to have deemed that a resolution had been
passed on the principle of extending the route to Ebbsfleet. We
accept that that would have required an additional provision,
it was not accepted but if it had been it would have required
an additional provision, and therefore we do not promote it before
this House because of
6942. CHAIRMAN: Very sensibly because
we cannot do it.
6943. MR CAMERON: My Lord, yes.
6944. CHAIRMAN: I wonder where it is
in the Green Book. Do you know, Ms Lieven?
6945. MS LIEVEN: My Lord, this matter
was considered on 16 May 2006, Day 32.
6946. CHAIRMAN: That may be so but we
have not got the House of Commons transcripts. I am looking at
the Green Book.
6947. MR CAMERON: My Lord, I do not know
whether I can assist? If the Green Book is the Special Report
of the Committee, despite troubling the Committee for a day, we
did not get a mention in the Report, which is why we have come
6948. CHAIRMAN: That is why we cannot
6949. MS LIEVEN: My Lord, I do not know
whether the Committee has this but Volume 3 of the Green Books
is the transcripts.
6950. CHAIRMAN: We may have it but we
have not looked at this point because we did not know Bexley was
coming on today.
6951. MS LIEVEN: Of course not, my Lord.
I will find the page reference in the next few minutes.
6952. MR CAMERON: I do not know whether
the page references are different but 801 is the evidence.
6953. CHAIRMAN: Anyway, the House of
Commons Select Committee came to no conclusion on it that they
6954. MR CAMERON: That is right, my Lord.
They heard our evidence but said nothing about it, and that is
why we are back before your lordships.
6955. LORD YOUNG OF NORWOOD GREEN: Were
you seeking exactly the same amendment, or were you seeking an
6956. MR CAMERON: We put forward four
options and we have now cut it down to two because we cannot go
for the other options because they would require an additional
6957. LORD YOUNG OF NORWOOD GREEN: At
the time you went to the Commons you were seeking an additional
6958. MR CAMERON: Yes, and at that stage
the Promoter made an objection on the basis that there had not
been an environmental statement. That is not an objection this
time round because there would have to be an environmental statement
at the time that a proposal was put before both Houses for a resolution
under the Transport and Works Act provisions, so we do not encounter
that difficulty this time although we did have a solution to it.
6959. CHAIRMAN: All right. Mr Donovan,
DONOVAN, Sworn Examined by