Select Committee on European Union Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 20-24)

HE Maurice Gourdault-Montagne and Mr Diego Colas

10 JUNE 2008

  Q20  Lord Wright of Richmond: Ambassador, I just wanted to ask a very quick question about how you see the Presidency's relationship with the Quartet in working towards a Palestinian state by the end of the year, which is the perhaps rather optimistic target which has been set. Also in relation to the last question, is there a risk that EuroMed will divert attention and indeed finance from the attempt to solve the Palestinian problem?

  HE Maurice Gourdault-Montagne: I do not think so, Lord Wright. There is the Quartet and Europe has a role to bring to the Quartet, but what is the Quartet without the Americans? That would be the main question, I think: what would be the action of the Americans during the electoral period? That is the main difficulty. At the present time, as you have seen yourself, where settlements are continuing and when one does not know exactly where the Israeli Government is orientating its policy, this will be the main problem, so, whatever EuroMed or other forums are doing, it will be a difficult issue.

  Q21  Lord Harrison: Ambassador, the last priority you spoke of in your opening address was helping small businesses. How will the French Parliament avoid platitudes about small businesses like cutting red tape or making finance accessible, important though they are, and instead establish a plan which includes the completion of the Single Market as the most effective way of encouraging small businesses to work?

  HE Maurice Gourdault-Montagne: You are right, we are always coming to platitudes in this regard. What I hope is that, since we have started to work very much upstream with the British Government, we shall avoid platitudes. We have been working very closely with Baroness Vadera since the end of last year, so there should be some practical measures for the support of SMEs, and access of the public market is something which is not very concrete and gives capacities of development to companies which would actually be rather focused or restricted in their capacities of action. We would like to give some capacities also for access to capital risk and to credit which would be something very concrete and tangible for the SMEs, so all these measures put together should give us something concrete at the end of December.

  Q22  Lord Kerr of Kinlochard: Ambassador, supposing the growth of the European economy continues to slow, supposing Monsieur Trichet's next move is, as he hinted, an upward move in interest rates and, as a result, the dollar drops further against the euro. Will France return to ECOFIN to demand more political control over the Central Bank? I remember the President's visit to ECOFIN last summer: will we see that again?

  HE Maurice Gourdault-Montagne: Lord Kerr, if you have noticed, President Sarkozy has been less, I would say, expressive or talkative about these issues in the last months. We consider that the policy which has been run by the European Central Bank in the last months has been a proper one, in particular their management towards the financial turmoil, so I do not see any risk of having the position of the French Government and the French President in the way you describe.

  Q23  Baroness Cohen of Pimlico: I am very interested, as Chairman of the Sub-Committee which produced our euro report, because when we published the report on the euro we discovered all sorts of myths about the euro had been demolished; that it was not going to tear Europe apart and the less well-developed countries, the southern states of Europe, were not going to have a problem with having their growth constricted. Do you feel, if the ECB rates do go up, that this would begin to make life difficult, and I am not thinking of France but Italy, Portugal, the countries that have suffered more?

  HE Maurice Gourdault-Montagne: It is difficult for me to answer on behalf of these countries, as I am sure you understand, but the euro has proved to be the best protection for the European countries in the past. We had to suffer competitive devaluation which destroyed entire sectors of our activities; the textile sector and the leather sector were thus destroyed. With the euro, in fact, we have had protection and the critical mass protected us very much from being hit. Of course, it does not prevent us from a contagion of some effect in the financial system itself but, on the whole, regarding the economic growth of Europe, the euro has helped very much the European economy to continue to grow and not to be affected.

  Q24  Lord Wade of Chorlton: Very briefly, I was very pleased with what you said about encouraging investment into Africa and clearly we have been very behind that, but I hope that that investment will be in such a way that it will not go to governments but will go to where it is needed into the economic needs of different countries, along the lines of Objective 1 and 2 investments in Europe. Would you agree with that?

  HE Maurice Gourdault-Montagne: As you know, there are lots of measures taken now and very much pushed in the form at the G8 to control where this money goes, wherever it comes from. Much more accountability and good governance are now required from the governments in Africa, so I would not be so pessimistic regarding this issue of where the money goes.

  Lord Wade of Chorlton: Well, I hope you become more pessimistic if you want to make full use of the money!

  Chairman: Thank you very much indeed, Ambassador, and also Diego Colas, for being with us. That was very informative and very helpful to us. May I on behalf of the Committee wish France all the best with your Presidency. You said there are no great events contemplated, but who knows? Thank you very much for coming to see us.





 
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