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Table of Contents for
Monday 2 Nov 2015

Volume No. 765Part No. 60

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House of Lords

Royal Gallery: Daniel Maclise Paintings - Question

Hinkley Point: Chinese Investment - Question

Copyright Hub - Question

President Sisi: Visit - Question

Flood Reinsurance (Scheme and Scheme Administrator Designation) Regulations 2015 - Motions to Approve

Flood Reinsurance (Scheme Funding and Administration) Regulations 2015 - Motions to Approve

Maximum Number of Judges Order 2015 - Motion to Approve

Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (Immunities and Privileges) Order 2015 - Motions to Approve

English Apprenticeships (Consequential Amendments to Primary Legislation) Order 2015 - Motions to Approve

Byelaws (Alternative Procedure) (England) Regulations 2015 - Motion to Approve

European Union Referendum Bill - Committee (2nd Day)

Clause 2: Entitlement to vote in the referendum

Amendment 14

Amendment 21

Amendment 22

Amendment 23 (to Amendment 22)

Disabled Students’ Allowance. - Question for Short Debate

European Union Referendum Bill - Committee (2nd Day) (Continued)

Amendment 24

Amendment 25

Grand Committee

Enterprise Bill [HL] - Committee (3rd Day)

Schedule 3: Primary authority scheme: new Schedule 4A to RESA 2008

Clause 18: Public sector apprenticeship targets

Amendment 49DA

Amendment 49E

Amendment 49F

Amendment 49G

Amendment 49J

Amendment 50B

Clause 19: Only statutory apprenticeships to be described as apprenticeships

Amendment 51

Amendment 51ZA

Amendment 52ZA

Clause 20: Insurance contracts: implied term about payment of claims

Amendment 52A

Clause 21: Contracting out of the implied term about payment of claims

Clause 22: Disclosure of HMRC information in connection with non-domestic rating

Amendment 52F



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names of speakers in the Lords Hansard text for
Monday 2 Nov 2015

Column: 1395

House of Lords [2 Nov 2015]

2.30 pm

Royal Gallery: Daniel Maclise Paintings - Question

2.36 pm

The Chairman of Committees (Lord Laming):

Lord Trefgarne (Con):

The Chairman of Committees:

Lord Berkeley of Knighton (CB):

The Chairman of Committees:

Baroness Maddock (LD):

Column: 1396

The Chairman of Committees:

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock (Lab):

The Chairman of Committees:

Lord Howell of Guildford (Con):

The Chairman of Committees:

Lord Dobbs (Con):

The Chairman of Committees:

Column: 1397

Lord Bilimoria (CB):

The Chairman of Committees:

Baroness Trumpington (Con):

The Chairman of Committees:

Hinkley Point: Chinese Investment - Question

2.45 pm

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Energy and Climate Change and Wales Office (Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth) (Con):

Column: 1398

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb (GP):

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth:

Lord West of Spithead (Lab):

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth:

Lord Wigley (PC):

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth:

Column: 1399

Lord Teverson (LD):

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth:

Lord Stoddart of Swindon (Ind Lab):

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth:

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Lab):

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth:

Column: 1400

Copyright Hub - Question

2.53 pm

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for Business, Innovation and Skills and Department for Culture, Media and Sport (Baroness Neville-Rolfe) (Con):

Lord Clement-Jones (LD):

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Howarth of Newport (Lab):

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: 1401

Lord Razzall (LD):

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Bilimoria (CB):

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara (Lab):

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Clement-Jones (LD):

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: 1402

President Sisi: Visit - Question

2.58 pm

The Earl of Courtown (Con):

Baroness Kennedy of The Shaws (Lab):

The Earl of Courtown:

Lord Singh of Wimbledon (CB):

Column: 1403

The Earl of Courtown:

Lord Wallace of Saltaire (LD):

The Earl of Courtown:

Baroness Kinnock of Holyhead (Lab):

The Earl of Courtown:

Lord Cormack (Con):

Column: 1404

The Earl of Courtown:

Baroness Afshar (CB):

The Earl of Courtown:

Lord Winston (Lab):

The Earl of Courtown:

Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean (Lab):

The Earl of Courtown:

Column: 1405

Flood Reinsurance (Scheme and Scheme Administrator Designation) Regulations 2015 - Motions to Approve

Flood Reinsurance (Scheme Funding and Administration) Regulations 2015 - Motions to Approve

3.07 pm

Maximum Number of Judges Order 2015 - Motion to Approve

3.08 pm

Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (Immunities and Privileges) Order 2015 - Motions to Approve

English Apprenticeships (Consequential Amendments to Primary Legislation) Order 2015 - Motions to Approve

3.08 pm

Byelaws (Alternative Procedure) (England) Regulations 2015 - Motion to Approve

3.08 pm

Column: 1406

European Union Referendum Bill - Committee (2nd Day)

3.09 pm

Clause 2: Entitlement to vote in the referendum

Amendment 14

Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer (LD):


Column: 1407

3.15 pm

Column: 1408

Lord Hannay of Chiswick (CB):

Lord Spicer (Con):

Column: 1409

Lord Garel-Jones (Con):

Lord Tugendhat (Con):

Column: 1410

3.30 pm

Lord Green of Deddington (CB):

Column: 1411

Lord Anderson of Swansea (Lab):

Lord Shipley (LD):

Column: 1412

Lord Lexden (Con):

Column: 1413

Column: 1414

Lord Bowness (Con):

3.45 pm

Lord Grocott (Lab):


Column: 1415

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Lord Grocott:

Lord Dobbs (Con):

Lord Lexden:

Lord Dobbs:

Column: 1416

Lord Anderson of Swansea:

Lord Dobbs:

Lord Green of Deddington:

Lord Dobbs:

Lord Tyler (LD):

Lord Dobbs:

Column: 1417

Lord Wallace of Saltaire (LD):

Lord Dobbs:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom (Con):

Lord Tugendhat:

Column: 1418

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Baroness Smith of Newnham (LD):

4 pm

Column: 1419

Lord Green of Deddington:

Lord Spicer:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Lord Spicer:

Viscount Trenchard (Con):

Column: 1420

Lord Liddle (Lab):

Lord Dobbs:

Baroness Morgan of Ely (Lab):

Column: 1421

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Baroness Morgan of Ely:

Column: 1422

The Minister of State, Ministry of Justice (Lord Faulks) (Con):

4.15 pm

Column: 1423

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Lord Faulks:

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon:

Lord Faulks:

Column: 1424

Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer:

Lord Grocott:

Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer:

Lord Dobbs:

Column: 1425

Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer:

Amendment 21

Column: 1426

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

4.30 pm

Lord Grocott:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Column: 1427

Lord Grocott:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Column: 1428

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Lord Pearson of Rannoch (UKIP):

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Lord Pearson of Rannoch:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Lord Dobbs:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Lord Dobbs:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Column: 1429

Lord Spicer:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:


Column: 1430

4.45 pm

Lord Pearson of Rannoch:

Lord Skelmersdale (Con):

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Lord Wigley (PC):


Column: 1431


Column: 1432

Lord Blencathra (Con):


Column: 1433

Baroness Falkner of Margravine (LD):

Lord Blencathra:

5 pm

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Lord Blencathra:

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard (CB):

Lord Blencathra:

Column: 1435

Lord Spicer:

Lord Blencathra:

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Blencathra:


Column: 1436

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

Lord Blencathra:

Lord Dobbs:

Lord Blencathra:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Lord Blencathra:

Lord Lawson of Blaby (Con):

Lord Blencathra:

Column: 1437

Lord Liddle:

Lord Blencathra:

Baroness Falkner of Margravine:

Column: 1438

Lord Blencathra:

Lord Liddle:

Lord Blencathra:


Column: 1439

5.15 pm

Lord Green of Deddington:

Lord Liddle:

Column: 1440

Lord Green of Deddington:

Lord Bowness:

Column: 1441

Column: 1442

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

5.30 pm

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Con):

Column: 1443

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

Column: 1444

Lord Grocott:

Lord Wigley:

Lord Grocott:

Column: 1445

Lord Davies of Stamford (Lab):

Lord Grocott:

Column: 1446

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Lord Grocott:

5.45 pm

Lord Dobbs:

Column: 1447

Lord Wigley:

Lord Dobbs:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Dobbs:

Lord Bowness:

Lord Dobbs:

Column: 1448

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon:

Column: 1449

Lord Green of Deddington:

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon:

Lord Stoddart of Swindon (Ind Lab):

Column: 1450

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

Lord Stoddart of Swindon:

6 pm

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Lord Stoddart of Swindon:

Lord Flight:

Column: 1451

Lord Stoddart of Swindon:

Lord Tugendhat:

Lord Stoddart of Swindon:

Lord Higgins (Con):


Column: 1452

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Lord Higgins:

6.15 pm

Lord Judd (Lab):

Column: 1453

Viscount Trenchard:

Column: 1454

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Viscount Trenchard:

Baroness Ludford (LD):


Column: 1455

Lord Blencathra:

Baroness Ludford:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Baroness Ludford:

Lord Pearson of Rannoch:

Baroness Ludford:

Column: 1456

Lord Pearson of Rannoch:

Baroness Ludford:

Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Flight:

The Earl of Courtown (Con):

Lord Davies of Stamford:


Column: 1457

6.30 pm

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Lord Davies of Stamford:


Column: 1458

Lord Marlesford (Con):

Lord Davies of Stamford:


Column: 1459

Lord Flight:

Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Flight:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Column: 1460

Baroness Morgan of Ely:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Baroness Morgan of Ely:

Column: 1461

6.45 pm

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Baroness Morgan of Ely:

Column: 1462

The Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office (Baroness Anelay of St Johns) (Con):


Column: 1463


Column: 1464

Lord Wigley:

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Column: 1465

7 pm

Column: 1466

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Amendment 22

Lord Turnbull:

Column: 1467

Amendment 23 (to Amendment 22)

Lord Blencathra:

Column: 1468

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:


Column: 1469

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

7.15 pm

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Column: 1470

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:


Column: 1471

Lord Lea of Crondall (Lab):

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:


Column: 1472

Lord Liddle:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Baroness Smith of Newnham:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Liddle:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Column: 1473

Baroness Smith of Newnham:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

7.30 pm

Baroness Ludford:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Column: 1474

Lord Lea of Crondall:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Lea of Crondall:


Column: 1475

Lord Collins of Highbury (Lab):


Column: 1476

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Column: 1477

7.45 pm

Lord Turnbull:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Turnbull:

Disabled Students’ Allowance. - Question for Short Debate

7.49 pm

Column: 1478

Lord Addington (LD):


Column: 1479


Column: 1480

7.59 pm

Lord Lipsey (Lab):

Column: 1481


Column: 1482

8.08 pm

Baroness Thomas of Winchester (LD):


Column: 1483


Column: 1484

8.16 pm

Baroness Garden of Frognal (LD):


Column: 1485


Column: 1486

8.24 pm

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town (Lab):

Column: 1487


Column: 1488

8.31 pm

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park (Con):


Column: 1489


Column: 1490


Column: 1491

8.41 pm

European Union Referendum Bill - Committee (2nd Day) (Continued)

8.49 pm

Amendment 24

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard (CB):

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Con):

Column: 1492

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom (Con):

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Wallace of Saltaire (LD):

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Column: 1493

Lord Stoddart of Swindon (Ind Lab):

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Column: 1494

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

9 pm

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Stoddart of Swindon:

Column: 1495

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Baroness Smith of Newnham (LD):

Column: 1496

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Baroness Smith of Newnham:

Column: 1497

Lord Liddle:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

9.15 pm

Lord Liddle:

Column: 1498

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Lord Liddle:


Column: 1499

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Lea of Crondall (Lab):

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Column: 1500

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Column: 1501

9.30 pm

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:


Column: 1502

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Stoddart of Swindon:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:


Column: 1503

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Baroness Morgan of Ely (Lab):

Lord Kilclooney (CB):

Column: 1504

Baroness Morgan of Ely:

9.45 pm

Baroness Morgan of Ely:

Lord Stoddart of Swindon:

Column: 1505

Baroness Morgan of Ely:

Lord Stoddart of Swindon:

Baroness Morgan of Ely:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Baroness Morgan of Ely:

Column: 1506

The Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office (Baroness Anelay of St Johns) (Con):

Lord Lea of Crondall:

Column: 1507

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

10 pm

Column: 1509

Amendment 25

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Column: 1510


Column: 1511

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Column: 1512

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Column: 1513

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:


Column: 1514

Column: GC253

Grand Committee [2 Nov 2015]

Enterprise Bill [HL] - Committee (3rd Day)

3.30 pm

The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Lord Brougham and Vaux) (Con):

Schedule 3: Primary authority scheme: new Schedule 4A to RESA 2008

Clause 18: Public sector apprenticeship targets

Amendment 49DA

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara (Lab):


Column: GC254

Baroness Sharp of Guildford (LD):

Column: GC255

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts (Con):

Column: GC256

Lord Young of Norwood Green (Lab):

Column: GC257

3.45 pm

Column: GC258

Baroness Corston (Lab):

Column: GC259

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for Business, Innovation and Skills and Department for Culture, Media and Sport (Baroness Neville-Rolfe) (Con):

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


Column: GC260

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts:

4 pm

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


Column: GC261

Column: GC262

Lord Young of Norwood Green:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


Column: GC263

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:


Column: GC264

4.15 pm

Amendment 49E

Baroness Sharp of Guildford:

Column: GC265

Column: GC266

Lord Young of Norwood Green:

Column: GC267

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

4.30 pm

Column: GC268

Lord Young of Norwood Green:

Column: GC269

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Baroness Sharp of Guildford:

Amendment 49F

Baroness Sharp of Guildford:

Column: GC270

Column: GC271

Lord Addington:

4.45 pm

Column: GC272

Lord Young of Norwood Green:

Baroness Sharp of Guildford:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: GC273

Lord Addington:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Baroness Sharp of Guildford:


Column: GC274

Amendment 49G

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts:

Column: GC275

5 pm

Column: GC276

Column: GC277

Lord Snape (Lab):

Lord Young of Norwood Green:

Lord Snape:

Lord Young of Norwood Green:

Column: GC279

Baroness Sharp of Guildford:

Baroness Byford (Con):

Column: GC280

Lord Snape:

Column: GC281

Column: GC282

Baroness Golding (Lab):

5.30 pm

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


Column: GC283

Column: GC284


Column: GC285

Lord Morris of Handsworth (Lab):

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Snape:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Snape:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Snape:

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts:

Lord Young of Norwood Green:

Column: GC286

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:

Column: GC287

5.45 pm

Amendment 49J

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:

Baroness Sharp of Guildford:

Column: GC288

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


Column: GC289

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:

Amendment 50B

Baroness Sharp of Guildford:

6 pm

Lord Young of Norwood Green:

Column: GC291

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


Column: GC292

Baroness Sharp of Guildford:

Clause 19: Only statutory apprenticeships to be described as apprenticeships

Amendment 51

Baroness Sharp of Guildford:


Column: GC293

Lord Young of Norwood Green:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


Column: GC294

Baroness Sharp of Guildford:

6.15 pm

Amendment 51ZA

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:


Column: GC295

The Deputy Chairman of Committees:

Baroness Sharp of Guildford:

Column: GC296

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


Column: GC297

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:

Amendment 52ZA

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:

Column: GC298

6.30 pm

Column: GC300

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts:

Column: GC301

Lord Leigh of Hurley (Con):


Column: GC302

6.45 pm

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: GC303

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:


Column: GC304

Clause 20: Insurance contracts: implied term about payment of claims

Amendment 52A

The Earl of Kinnoull (CB):

Column: GC305


Column: GC306

Lord Flight (Con):

7 pm

Column: GC307

Baroness Noakes (Con):

Column: GC308

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town (Lab):


Column: GC309

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

7.15 pm

Column: GC310

The Earl of Kinnoull:

Column: GC311

Clause 21: Contracting out of the implied term about payment of claims

Clause 22: Disclosure of HMRC information in connection with non-domestic rating

Amendment 52F

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:

Column: GC312


Column: GC313

Lord Stoneham of Droxford (LD):

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

7.30 pm

Column: GC314


Column: GC315

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:

Lord Hunt of Wirral (Con):

Column: GC316

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

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