Table of Contents for
Wednesday 4 Nov 2015

Volume No. 765Part No. 62

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House of Lords

Tax Credits - Question

Teacher Training - Question

Employment - Question

Criminal Justice: Transgender People - Question

Bank of England and Financial Services Bill [HL] - Order of Consideration Motion

Energy Bill [HL] - Third Reading

Clause 7: Contracting out of functions to the OGA

Amendment 1

Clause 14: Levy on licence holders

Amendment 2

Amendment 3

In the Title

Amendment 4

Draft Investigatory Powers Bill - Statement

European Union Referendum Bill - Committee (3rd Day)

Amendment 33

Amendment 34

Amendment 35

Amendment 36

Amendments 41 to 46

Schedule 2: Control of loans etc to permitted participants

Amendments 47 and 48

Atrial Fibrillation - Question for Short Debate

European Union Referendum Bill - Committee (3rd Day) (Continued)

Schedule 3: Further provision about the referendum

Amendment 48A

Amendment 49

Clause 4: Conduct regulations, etc

Clause 6: Power to modify section 125 of the 2000 Act

Amendment 51

Amendment 60

Amendment 61

Clause 9: Definitions

Amendment 62

Grand Committee

Enterprise Bill [HL] - Committee (4th Day)

Amendment 53

Amendment 53ZA (to Amendment 53)

Amendment 53ZC

Amendment 53ZE

Amendment 53ZG

Clause 26: Restriction on public sector exit payments

Amendment 53ZH

Amendment 53ZJ

Amendment 54

Amendment 54B

Amendment 54BC

Amendment 54C

Amendment 54CA

Amendment 54J

Clause 27: Consequential amendments, repeals and revocations

Clause 29: Commencement





This Table of Contents lists subject headings, timelines and
names of speakers in the Lords Hansard text for
Wednesday 4 Nov 2015

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House of Lords [4 Nov 2015]

3 pm

Tax Credits - Question

3.07 pm

Lord Ashton of Hyde (Con):

Baroness Lister of Burtersett (Lab):

Lord Ashton of Hyde:

Baroness Manzoor (LD):

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Lord Ashton of Hyde:

A noble Lord:

Lord Ashton of Hyde:

Baroness Meacher (CB):

Lord Ashton of Hyde:

Lord Morgan (Lab):

Lord Ashton of Hyde:

Lord McKenzie of Luton (Lab):

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Lord Ashton of Hyde:

Lord Farmer (Con):

Lord Ashton of Hyde:

Teacher Training - Question

3.15 pm

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park (Con):

Baroness Donaghy (Lab):

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Baroness Evans of Bowes Park:

Baroness Coussins (CB):

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park:

Baroness Sharp of Guildford (LD):

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park:

Lord Lexden (Con):

Column: 1635

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park:

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall (Lab):

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park:

Lord Maginnis of Drumglass (Ind UU):

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park:

Employment - Question

3.22 pm

Column: 1636

The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions (Baroness Altmann) (Con):

Baroness Seccombe (Con):

Baroness Altmann:

Lord Wrigglesworth (LD):

Baroness Altmann:

Baroness Sherlock (Lab):

Baroness Altmann:

Column: 1637

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Con):

Baroness Altmann:

Lord Christopher (Lab):

Baroness Altmann:

Lord Dobbs (Con):

Baroness Altmann:

Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top (Lab):

Baroness Altmann:

Column: 1638

Criminal Justice: Transgender People - Question

3.30 pm

The Minister of State, Ministry of Justice (Lord Faulks) (Con):

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames (LD):

Lord Faulks:

Lord Cashman (Lab):

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Lord Faulks:

Lord Scriven (LD):

Lord Faulks:

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town (Lab):

Lord Faulks:

Baroness Hussein-Ece (LD):

Lord Faulks:

Column: 1640

Lord Patel of Bradford (Lab):

Lord Faulks:

Lord Harris of Haringey (Lab):

Lord Faulks:

Bank of England and Financial Services Bill [HL] - Order of Consideration Motion

3.37 pm

Energy Bill [HL] - Third Reading

3.37 pm

Clause 7: Contracting out of functions to the OGA

Amendment 1

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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Energy and Climate Change and Wales Office (Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth) (Con):


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Lord Wallace of Tankerness (LD):

3.45 pm

Baroness Worthington (Lab):


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Lord Howell of Guildford (Con):

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Lord Foulkes of Cumnock (Lab):

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth:


Column: 1645

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock:

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth:

Clause 14: Levy on licence holders

Amendment 2

Amendment 3

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Lord Oxburgh (CB):

Baroness Maddock (LD):

Lord Howell of Guildford:


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Lord Young of Norwood Green (Lab):

4 pm

Baroness Worthington:

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Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth:

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4.15 pm

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Lord Oxburgh:

In the Title

Amendment 4

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Draft Investigatory Powers Bill - Statement

4.18 pm

The Minister of State, Home Office (Lord Bates) (Con):

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4.31 pm

Lord Rosser (Lab):

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Lord Paddick (LD):

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Lord Bates:


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4.47 pm

Lord King of Bridgwater (Con):

Lord Bates:

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Lord Blair of Boughton (CB):

Lord Bates:

Lord Hutton of Furness (Lab):

Lord Bates:

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Lord Blencathra (Con):

Lord Bates:

Baroness Ludford (LD):

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Lord Bates:

Lord Tebbit (Con):

Lord Bates:

Lord West of Spithead (Lab):


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Lord Bates:

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb (GP):

Lord Bates:

Lord Pannick (CB):

Lord Bates:

Lord Campbell-Savours (Lab):

Lord Bates:

Lord Strasburger (LD):

Lord King of Bridgwater:

Lord Strasburger:

Noble Lords:

Lord Strasburger:

Lord Bates:

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Lord Young of Norwood Green (Lab):

Lord Bates:

European Union Referendum Bill - Committee (3rd Day)

5.10 pm

Amendment 33

The Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office (Baroness Anelay of St Johns) (Con):


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Column: 1668

5.15 pm

Column: 1669

Lord Tyler (LD):

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Lord Collins of Highbury (Lab):

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Lord Wallace of Saltaire (LD):

Amendment 34

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Lord Hannay of Chiswick (CB):

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Con):


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Lord Collins of Highbury:

5.30 pm

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

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Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

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Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Lamont of Lerwick (Con):


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Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Lamont of Lerwick:

Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Lamont of Lerwick:

Lord Davies of Stamford (Lab):


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Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Lamont of Lerwick:

Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Lamont of Lerwick:

Lord Tebbit (Con):

Lord Davies of Stamford:

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Lord Lamont of Lerwick:

5.45 pm

Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Tebbit:

Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Flight (Con):

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Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Pearson of Rannoch (UKIP):

Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Lamont of Lerwick:

Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Lamont of Lerwick:

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Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Davies of Stamford:

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Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Greaves (LD):

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Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Blencathra (Con):

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6 pm

Lord Stoddart of Swindon (Ind Lab):

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Stoddart of Swindon:

Lord Pearson of Rannoch:


Column: 1682

Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Pearson of Rannoch:

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard (CB):

Noble Lords:

The Earl of Courtown (Con):

Baroness Smith of Newnham (LD):

Column: 1683

Lord Tebbit:

Lord Davies of Stamford:

Lord Tebbit:

Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Tebbit:


Column: 1684

Lord Flight:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom (Con):

6.15 pm

Column: 1685

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

Lord Lamont of Lerwick:

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:


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Lord Lamont of Lerwick:

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

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Lord Collins of Highbury:


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6.30 pm

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Lamont of Lerwick:

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Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Pearson of Rannoch:

Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

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Lord Collins of Highbury:

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:


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Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

6.45 pm

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Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Lord Collins of Highbury:

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Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:


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Lord Davies of Stamford:

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Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

7 pm

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

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Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:


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Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Hannay of Chiswick:

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Amendment 35

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:


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7.15 pm

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

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Lord Spicer (Con):

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

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7.30 pm

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:


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Column: 1704

Lord Pearson of Rannoch:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

Lord Pearson of Rannoch:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

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Lord Pearson of Rannoch:

Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Collins of Highbury:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom:

7.45 pm

Lord Collins of Highbury:

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Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

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8 pm

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

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Column: 1711

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

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Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Amendment 36

Amendments 41 to 46

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Column: 1714

Schedule 2: Control of loans etc to permitted participants

Amendments 47 and 48

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Column: 1716

Atrial Fibrillation - Question for Short Debate

8.13 pm

Lord Black of Brentwood (Con):


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Column: 1719

8.23 pm

Baroness Murphy (CB):

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8.27 pm

Lord Rennard (LD):

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8.31 pm

Baroness Masham of Ilton (CB):


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8.35 pm

Baroness Gardner of Parkes (Con):


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8.40 pm

Lord Rea (Lab):

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen (Con):

Lord Rea:

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen:

Lord Rea:

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen:

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8.46 pm

Lord Colwyn (Con):


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8.50 pm

Lord Plant of Highfield (Lab):


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8.55 pm

Baroness Wheeler (Lab):


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9 pm

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Health (Lord Prior of Brampton) (Con):


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European Union Referendum Bill - Committee (3rd Day) (Continued)

9.12 pm

Schedule 3: Further provision about the referendum

Amendment 48A

Column: 1732

Lord Greaves (LD):


Column: 1733

Column: 1734

The Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office (Baroness Anelay of St Johns) (Con):


Column: 1735

Lord Greaves:

9.30 pm

Column: 1736

Amendment 49

Clause 4: Conduct regulations, etc

Column: 1737

Clause 6: Power to modify section 125 of the 2000 Act

Amendment 51

Amendment 60

Lord Blencathra (Con):

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Column: 1739

Lord Pearson of Rannoch (UKIP):

Column: 1740

9.45 pm

Lord Wallace of Saltaire (LD):

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Lord Blencathra:

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

Lord Blencathra:

Column: 1742

Lord Pearson of Rannoch:

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard (CB):

Lord Collins of Highbury (Lab):

Column: 1743

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:


Column: 1744

10 pm

Lord Blencathra:

Lord Wallace of Saltaire:

Column: 1745

Lord Blencathra:

Amendment 61

Lord Wigley (PC):

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Column: 1747


Column: 1748

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Con):

Column: 1749

10.15 pm

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:


Column: 1750

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Lord Hamilton of Epsom (Con):

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard:

Column: 1751

Lord Tebbit (Con):

Baroness Smith of Newnham (LD):

Lord Collins of Highbury:

Column: 1752

10.30 pm

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Column: 1753

Lord Blencathra:

Baroness Anelay of St Johns:

Lord Wigley:

Column: 1754

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean:

Lord Wigley:

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Clause 9: Definitions

Amendment 62

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Grand Committee [4 Nov 2015]

Enterprise Bill [HL] - Committee (4th Day)

3.46 pm

The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Lord Haskel) (Lab):

Amendment 53

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for Business, Innovation and Skills and Department for Culture, Media and Sport (Baroness Neville-Rolfe) (Con):


Column: GC318

Column: GC319

Amendment 53ZA (to Amendment 53)

Column: GC320

4 pm

Lord Teverson (LD):


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Lord Cope of Berkeley (Con):

Lord Mendelsohn (Lab):


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4.15 pm

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Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: GC327

Lord Mendelsohn:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: GC328

4.30 pm

Lord Teverson:

Lord Mendelsohn:

Column: GC329

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara (Lab):

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Teverson:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Mendelsohn:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: GC330

Lord Mendelsohn:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Stoneham of Droxford:

Column: GC331

Lord Teverson:

Lord Mendelsohn:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

4.45 pm

Amendment 53ZC

Lord Whitty (Lab):

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Column: GC333


Column: GC334


Column: GC335

5 pm

Lord Snape (Lab):


Column: GC336

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts (Con):


Column: GC337


Column: GC338

Lord Snape:

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts:


Column: GC339

Lord Mendelsohn:

5.15 pm

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts:


Column: GC340

Lord Berkeley (Lab):

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts:

Lord Snape:

Lord Stoneham of Droxford:

Column: GC341

Lord Mendelsohn:


Column: GC342

5.30 pm

Column: GC343

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts:

Lord Mendelsohn:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: GC344

Lord Mendelsohn:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: GC345


Column: GC346

Lord Snape:

5.45 pm

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: GC347

Lord Snape:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: GC348

Lord Mendelsohn:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: GC349

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Whitty:


Column: GC350

Lord Snape:

Lord Whitty:

Lord Snape:

Lord Whitty:

6 pm

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Snape:

Lord Berkeley:

Lord Snape:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: GC351

Lord Whitty:

Amendment 53ZE

Lord Mendelsohn:

Column: GC352


Column: GC353

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


Column: GC354

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts:

6.15 pm

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: GC355

Lord Mendelsohn:

Amendment 53ZG

Column: GC356

Lord Mendelsohn:

Lord Stoneham of Droxford:

Column: GC357

Lord Deben (Con):

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


Column: GC358

Lord Mendelsohn:

Column: GC359

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Lord Mendelsohn:

Clause 26: Restriction on public sector exit payments

Amendment 53ZH

6.30 pm

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town (Lab):


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The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall) (Lab):

Baroness Donaghy (Lab):

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6.45 pm

Lord Stoneham of Droxford:

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Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


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7 pm

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Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town:


Column: GC368

Amendment 53ZJ

Lord Borwick (Con):

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Amendment 54

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town:

Column: GC369

Lord Low of Dalston (CB):

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


Column: GC370

7.15 pm

Lord Low of Dalston:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town:

Amendment 54B

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Baroness Donaghy:


Column: GC372

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town:


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Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


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7.30 pm

Baroness Donaghy:

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Amendment 54BC

Amendment 54C

Baroness Donaghy:

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Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town:


Column: GC377

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:


Column: GC378

Baroness Donaghy:

Amendment 54CA

Amendment 54J

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town:

Baroness Neville-Rolfe:

Column: GC379

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town:

Column: GC380

Clause 27: Consequential amendments, repeals and revocations

Clause 29: Commencement