Select Committee on Communities and Local Government Committee Written Evidence


Memorandum Submitted by Healthmatic Ltd

CONVENIENT OR NOT?

  Local councils, whether; County; District; Borough; Town; Parish; or City; have all had to consider the viability of their Public Convenience provision. With an aging population, and a wish to be fully inclusive many toileting challenged people are enjoying the streets of their local area, or visiting others. The question is how to provide facilities that encourage people to visit, shop, stay and return. ENCAMS in their knowledge bank on the subject clearly considers the drive that good provision offers to visitors to go to one location over another based on Convenience provision. Shopping centres, individual shops, and all manner of attractions understand this and concentrate a good degree of fire power on the provision of loos for their public. Quite simply it brings them alternate revenue that outweighs the minimal cost of provision. Councils sometimes understand this and sometimes do not. There are clear examples of BID (Business Improvement Districts) levying members to provide improved facilities of this nature simply because the Council does not.

  It is not discretionary for a shop—they have to provide facilities for their staff, even a building site with more than 3 workers has to provide a loo so why not a Town? Bus drivers, Binmen, Postal Workers, the Police, and all manner of public servants (commercial or otherwise) need to go when they are out—they either find somewhere, break the law, or return to base—I wonder how much money that costs the public purse?

What can a Council do?

  1.  Where they have poorly used loos near community facilities offer the upkeep with revenue to the Community Hall, the Parish, the Town etc| A COMMUNITY RUN FACILTY ATTRACTS NO NDR. (that has to be unfair)

  2.  They can update and charge for the facility typically 20p but as high as 50p and a £1 is charged in some facilities, this discourages vandalism and allows for a good quality service. In some cases Councils mix the charge, high in tourist areas, less or free off the beaten track. Charging can be offset by redemption tickets for money off a cup of tea at a local café for example this "adverticket" approach is common in charging car parks.

  3.  In the installation of new facilities, sorely needed in some town centres, support in financial terms can be found, not just from charging but by offering revenue opportunities by attaching a kiosk, looking for support from bus companies, local shops and restaurants, or market organisers where some of the money they charge can be set aside to subsidise provision. Playing around with budgets can also help Police Facilities almost like to old Police Box might help us keep our Bobbies on the beat. There are some authorities who link the two, (East Hants), where a small satellite "Station" is attached to one of their loos. Providing relief for the officers, more security, internet access and even a local interview room with arrest and hold facilities, very necessary with PCSOs for example.

  4.  In order to satisfy accessibility and diversity issues Councils should provide DDA facilities in the same way that shops have to make their premises accessible to all ranges of the public. Changing Room is a good example of helping the less able enjoy a more comfortable day out knowing that any soiling issues can be dealt with without embarrassment (here the purely non commercial aspect here makes it a duty of Councils as private provision would probably not be forthcoming unless planning required it).

  The above are just a few pointers there are many more;

  Cost Cutting;

  Direct access Semi automatic loos by attended facilities to be in use during off peak periods therefore cutting back the required hours staff need to attend the loos to say 1130hrs to 1730 the time when most people need to use the loos (and so many that a single unit would not cope).

  Attendant could be doubled with Parking Officers so they look in and clean as they patrol though this would offer someone the two least popular jobs in a town!

Contracting out can also provide cost cutting situations, often certain towns have attendants where they are not needed due to poor usage or could be replaced by self cleaning or remotely attended loos. Encouraging the public to report problems or notify the Council can be made easy through mobile phones if an easily accessible number is given why not let the public, who use the loos let you know how they are fairing—it makes sense.

  Charity run loos—yes charge on the door but make it clear that the money goes to a GOOD CAUSE this can cut vandalism and gets real involvement in this service from the public. If the charity provided workers to clean them as well then this money could go to charity as well.

  Better still speak to an adviser who deals with loos across the country and they can identify more of the opportunities mentioned here. The BTA is a great starting place for advice.

COST OF PROVISION

Firstly attendants

  Most attendants are relatively inexpensive as members of the workforce earning around £6.50 per hour the cost of a 10 hour day seven days a week is around £29,000 and you will need three staff or so to cover that. Pay rates will vary. (The best suggestion is to as above keep opening of the main uint down to six hours and use alternate unattended solutions for off peak. A good attendant in a well used loo will if charged collect enough to pay for the employee.

Secondly Automatics

  These Loos clean themselves after a specified number of uses, they detect multiple occupancy (which can mean trouble) an not close the door, they are DDA compliant in most cases, they open and close remotely, they will even send messages back to HQ as to whether they are in use, out of a consumable or just simply out of order. They would be described as robotically attended. Often these open for 24 hours and are run maintained and cleaned by a third party.

  Cost typically £70K plus connections to the services and then a maintenance cost of up to £15K per annum less if there is a cluster of loos close together (as low as £8K p.a.). The 20p revenue covers the utilities costs this can be kept by the Council or increasingly the third party may pay the services costs in exchange for the money. VAT is payable on the entry money to a public convenience if it is run by a commercial body but not if it is run by the Council!

Thirdly Semi Automatics

  Just like the Automatics these are "direct access" ie the door opens onto the street. These can be made a little more welcoming with a windowed door and customer locking which does take some of the worry out of the public perception. But some anti vandal and cleaning function is lost which can make them more vulnerable and less likely to be open 24hours.

  Cost for an in- build (one placed in an existing building) is around £33K per cubicle and it decreases depending on the number being put in. A stand alone version would be nearer £45K plus connection to services. Bringing services to a loo can be as high as £30K depending on the proximity to the sewer, water and electric supplies.

Fourthly Traditional Unattended

  Often the least expensive in the short term the provision of a lobby and cubicles much like the ones most of us experience in school or offices means that people may congregate in the loo to do things other than the reason for which it is provided this increases costs through vandalism and can make them "no go" areas for the public in more ways than one. In a quiet location near local facilities and shops they can do a fine job with limited interruption but a band of anti social "users" can quickly ruin a previously good level of provision. It comes and goes. These can cost a varying amount but a standard block of a ladies and gents and a DDA say four ladies cubicles, one gents and a DDA would be around £140K plus service connection depending on size and construction.

Typical examples of provision

  Four Semi automatic cubicles will cost £110K inbuilt and if placed well will deliver in excess of £1,200 per month revenue if well used (up to £2,400 easily). The more use the less chance of vandalism as a busy loo is too busy not to be caught in!

  Per use cost in a good loo is about 2.3 Pence for consumables (loo paper soap etc..)

  14p covers the general on demand services Water and electricity—automatic lighting and heating should be used.

  NDR and such extra capital costs (cost of finance etc|) depend on how the service is set up. Look at any budget to determine the costs. Any Council publishes their costs. Average cleaning is around £8-10K per loo, £1000 on consumables, £1,000 on NDR, and capital charges, Building Repairs, and other costs will vary.

  One example of a City is as follows use the broad content but it lets you know what it costs an how this is included;

  Thank you for your interest in assisting the Council move forward to provide high quality public toilets that people feel safe and confident to use, that are clean and well maintained and that are managed in the most cost effective way.

  In direct answer to your questions.

  1.  Please find attached list of public toilets provided by the Council.

You said you have already found the map on our webpage providing opening times, cleaning schedule and whether they have disabled person and/or baby change facilities.

  2.  Our overall budget for 2008-09 is £621,040. Of that employees costs are £220,240 which equates to nine full time equivalent staff. £38,900 is allocated for supplies and services with £1,900 is for transport. The rest is made up of utility costs, rent, rates (£27,679), etc; capital financing; and indirect costs.

  3.  We do not have any Town or Parish Councils.

  4.  We do not have exact usage figures but I use water usage, where known, to estimate usage. This information is included on the attachment. Where I do have water usage, I have provided educated guess.

  5.  Charging has been agreed by the Council at all modernised, non attended public toilets. We have six units at present with two more presently being modernised. Please see web map for location. Charging is not something the Council is adverse to, however, where we have toilets on recreation grounds, particularly adjacent to paddling pools and children's play areas, the Council has said it will not impose a charge.

  6.  All elements of anti-social behaviour associated with public toilets is present to some degree at all facilities. However, I guess like most places, some ASB is more prevalent at particular locations. The city centre toilets are targeted for rough sleeping and drug taking. Several toilets are targeted for sexual activity, particularly male with male.

  Vandalism goes in spates, particularly at toilets on recreation grounds, which tend to be older, traditional style, male and female facilities with communal areas. After school and school holiday times are when many facilities are particularly vulnerable.

  7.  The Council has recently reaffirmed its commitment not to close any public toilets.

  8.  The present budget is for nine full time equivalent posts. I do not have detailed information about length of service, etc at this present time.

  9.  For opening times, please see web map. We have one fully attended unit in the city centre (Lion Yard) and we also have an attendant at the Silver Street facilities during summer months because this one is in a popular tourist area (beside a main punting hire area) and is also main day tourist coach set down and pick-up location.

  10.  As regards reports to Committee. Over the past few years there have been several. Please see links included in attached document.

  The overall objective of this exercise is to achieve savings. We have already looked at achieving best price for electricity, incorporating water usage reduction measures where-ever possible and also ensuring we are not paying rates on remises we shouldn't be. We have also incorporated cycling for attendants between city centre units.

PUBLIC CONVENIENCES PROVIDED BY CAMBRIDGE CITY COUNCIL
Location AddressUsage Water usage over last 12 months Type
1Arbury CourtArbury Road Low use97m3Being rebuilt to have 3 cubicles on street
2Barnwell RoadBarnwell Road, Low use60m3Small male/female unit on street
3Cherry Hinton HallCherry Hinton Road Medium use (heavy during festival)375m3 Medium sized male female unit on park. Disable separate
4Cherry Hinton RecHigh Street Cherry Hinton Low use185m3Modernised 3 cubicle unit on street.
5Chesterton Rec.Church Road Chesterton Low UseThrough pavilion Small male/female/disable unit on park
6Chesterton RoadChesterton Road Medium Use653m3Being rebuilt with 3 cubicles on street
7Coleridge Rec.Coleridge Road Low useThrough pavilion Small male/female/disable unit on park
8Gonville PlaceGonville Place Medium Use382m3Modernised 5 cubicles on park
10Jesus GreenChesterton Road Medium useThrough pavilion Small male/female/disabled unit on park
11Kings Hedges Rec.Buchan Street Low useThrough Community Centre Medium male/female/disable on park
12Lammas LandNewnham Medium/Heavy useThrough parks building Modernised 5 cubicle on park
13Lion YardLion Yard Very heavy use1585m3 (Estimate) Modernised male/female two disable unit in city centre
14Mill RoadMill Road Medium use145m3Modernised 4 cubicle unit on street
15Nightingale Rec.Nightingale Avenue Medium use974m3Small male/female/disable on park
16Park Street Car Park Park Street Medium UseThrough car park Modernised 5 cubicle on street—busy
17QuaysideQuayside Medium UseNot directly supplied Medium male/female/disable on street—busy
18Romsey Rec.Hemingford Road Low use199m3Very small male/female on park
19Silver StreetSilver Street, Medium/Heavy Use1111m3 Male/female on street (underground) unit Disable—busy
20Victoria AvenueVictoria Ave Medium Use177m3 (rain water captured) Modernised 4 cubicle on street—busy

Low Use = under 30,000 per annum: Medium Use = under 100,000 pa: Heavy Use = over 100,000 pa

  Maybe we should set up a league of PC providers and look at number of users and cost per user and get a working party of local authorities to determine best practise costs and strategies. The BTA facilitates some of the best practise sharing but is not Govt Funded. A working party drawn from 20-50 local authorities would help all understand the costs and comparative benefits of provision.

  N Lanarkshire has awful facilities and attendants in each how seem o watch TV most of the time.

  Glasgow is seeking to shave £600K from its provision budget by dropping a large number of FTEs (Full Time Equivalents)

  Westminster charge 50p in some locations and their revenue runs into Millions.

  Pop up loos are being installed to provide urination stops for night time revellers all over London, particularly, Westminster and Lambeth.

  Many prospective unitary authorities are cascading loo provision to Parish and Town Councils to keep the service local.

  Most Councils have performance targets for their loos provision but there is no cost comparison or average on which to base any performance data so their reports mean little. Maybe an inspection team an "Ofloo" body should be established—who knows.

  Hope this is of use there is so much more where this came from we run 250 loos for 72 individual local authorities so we pretty well come across every issue but so does everyone in the club.





 
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