Select Committee on Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Questions to the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs arising from the evidence session of 5 March

  The Committee have some further queries in relation to the Nitrates Inquiry:

1.  The scientific basis for the figure of 170 in the 170 kg N/ha limit in the Directive, and the scientific basis for the figure of 250 in the 250 kg N/ha limit under a derogation (Q55)

  170 kg limit: Our records do not show how or why the Commission proposed this figure. Records do show that it was very strongly criticised by a number of member states on the basis that "the rainfall assumption did not hold good for all parts of the Community", indicating that rainfall levels were at least one significant factor in arriving at the figure. The UK saw the 170 limit as too tight, argued for a much more differentiated approach to limits but did not win the argument.

  250 kg limit for grassland in our domestic Regulations: There is some anecdotal evidence that this may have derived from the Water Code of July 1991 where a limit of 250 kg is recommended to help reduce nutrient losses to water from all land (not just grassland). Note that this limit in our current Regulations is not strictly a "derogation" in that we have not gone through the derogation process set down in the Directive. Ministers have made a commitment to apply for a derogation from the 170 kg limit which will be established in the revised Regulations. The derogation limit we seek will be determined by the evidence we are able to put forward which may or may not support a 250 limit.

2.  The reason for the different storage capacity requirements for pig slurry and poultry manure, compared with other slurries (Q112)

  Difference in pig/poultry and cattle manure storage requirements:

    (a)  More out-grazing of cattle, therefore less manure collected and needing storage.

    (b)  Cattle more usually on grassland where there are more opportunities for spreading manure.

It would also be helpful to have clarification on the following point:

3.  In his reply to Q56, Mr Woolas said "we have never ever had" a four-yearly review. But Defra's consultation document says: "Reviews of the extent of the NVZs and the effectiveness of the Action Programme are required by the Nitrates Directive every four years . . . The Department has just completed its reviews of NVZs and the Action Programme" (1.26-7) Has the Department conducted a four-yearly review or not?

  Requirement for four-yearly reviews: Our records do not show how this figure was arrived at, nor do they show that there was any significant discussion of the review requirements at the time of Directive negotiations.

  Our implementation of the four-yearly review requirement:

    (a)  NVZ designations were reviewed in 2001 following a European Court of Justice ruling in 2000 that insufficient NVZ areas had been designated. A second review was conducted in 2006 to meet the four-yearly review requirement.

    (b)  The Action Programme was introduced in 1998. A full review was not conducted in 2002 because there was insufficient data available at the time (the NVZ area was increased in 2002 from 8% of England to 55%) to enable a meaningful assessment to be made of the effectiveness of the Programme. The 2006 review met the four-yearly review requirement to review.

  We are aiming to give effect to both reviews in revised Regulations to be made by the summer recess.

4.  Does an anaerobic digester count as a form of storage capacity under the Action Programme and contribute to the storage capacity requirement?

  The Directive is concerned with the sufficiency of capacity and does not define requirements as to the form the storage must take. So, the short answer must be yes. Whether Anaerobic Digestion could indeed be useful in helping farmers manage the storage of manures for purposes of the NVZ Action Programme is another matter; the potential is being considered within the Department and, I understand, by the agricultural sector itself.

5.  In answer to Q88, Ms Nowak said that "Spain, Italy, UK and Luxembourg currently have action against them by the Commission"

  Prior to the evidence session, I asked Jeroen Casaer at the European Commission which countries had legal action outstanding against them in relation to their implementation of the Directive. He replied this week and said that the UK, Luxembourg and Spain have action outstanding against them, but his list also includes Germany, Ireland and Portugal. He said that the case against Italy had been closed.

Please could you confirm whether Defra agrees with the list provided by Mr Casaer?

  We are not able to say whether we agree or disagree. The list I provided at the hearing was from my recollection of a printed list provided to member states at the Nitrates Committee meeting in mid-February 2008. The corrected transcript of the hearing notes shows that my memory was not fully accurate in that I omitted Portugal. A footnote to the printed list states: "For legal reasons, some proceedings at an early stage cannot be mentioned in this table". It is possible the Commission has progressed/initiated proceedings since the meeting in mid-February and this could account for the differences in the list provided by me and by the Commission.

6.  Please could you let me know when Defra publishes its analysis of the consultation responses?

  Expected very soon.

  Answers received 20 and 28 March.





 
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