Select Committee on Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Minutes of Evidence


British Waterways: DEFRA Strategic Steer for Business Planning

INTRODUCTION

  1.  Since the EFRA Committee enquiry Defra and British Waterways have been considering the form and content of an agreed strategy for BW in England and Wales which will give Defra Ministers an assurance that the Government's priorities will be taken into account in decision making by the BW Board. In the immediate future there is a need to agree delivery priorities to be attached to the allocation Defra will provide to BW for the CSR period 2008-9 to 2010-11. This needs to be framed within a shared longer term strategic direction the pace and extent of which will be influenced by the outcome of the current BW review into its organisational status.

  2.  The allocation for the CSR period will reflect an increased injection of capital reflecting the importance of maintaining the network to us and to help secure immediate and longer term reduction in taxpayer support for ongoing operations. It will also seek a BW commitment to help fund the Government's priorities from its commercial capital pot over the 3 years of the CSR period whilst plans are developed to increase BW's self sufficiency in the longer term.

DEFRA'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES

  3.  Defra recognises that its sponsorship of British Waterways enables BW to discharge its duties in England and Wales as the custodian of the canal network for posterity on behalf of the Government and reflecting statutory obligations. For Defra this is one of our "Licence To Operate" areas (LTO) which needs to be got right in the public interest and for the reputation of the Department. Realistically, BW will not be central to the delivery of the two key outcomes for the Department captured in its PSAs on climate change and the natural environment; but Ministers are committed to recognising the importance of the LTO areas (egs of others are flood risk management and animal health) in their decision making on allocations in what is a very tough CSR period.

  4.  Government's priorities for BW in England and Wales can be divided into three areas—(i) maintaining the network in satisfactory order; (ii) achieving the shared Govt/BW longer term vision of moving towards greater self sufficiency through the growth of commercial business and other funding sources(these are to some extent inter-dependent—as growth of income can allow more investment in the network, and therefore prioritisation between them is not easy); and (iii) delivering a range of additional public benefits that are not indivisible from maintaining the network, eg developing opportunities for sustainable transport/freight, affordable housing, biodiversity enhancement, small scale renewable energy projects etc. The Government broadly favours (i) as the first and foremost priority, especially as this has a strong linkage with the delivery of many public policy priorities such as regeneration, sustainable landscapes and communities and public health. But a balance must be struck with the other two as all are clearly important. Further detail on each priority is as follows:

 (i)   Maintaining the network in satisfactory order.

  The canal network is an important and treasured national heritage asset that when in good order delivers strong public benefits; but it has to be used and valued by the public. It fits within the Defra Intermediate Outcomes of achieving sustainable living landscapes and promotion of recreation within the environment (walking, canoeing, boating, angling etc)—but also contributes significantly towards a wide range of other Defra and OGD objectives such as regeneration, regional economic performance, local environment quality, conservation of heritage, sustainable communities, public health etc. BW can contribute to a wide range of PSAs; but the primary contribution is almost certainly towards economic prosperity and regeneration as maintaining the network in good condition enables it to give uplift in waterside property values and stimulate business growth. It is worth mentioning that maintaining navigation, apart from being a statutory function, is important as boats add to the public draw and uplift in waterside values as well as bringing to life the heritage landscape. A suite of indicators to reflect progress will be needed and we support the development of an overall stewardship score which reflects both the condition of the assets and how well used they are, both on and alongside the waterways. Such an indicator will be central to our measurement of progress under this priority.

 (ii)   Supporting the current BW vision to be largely self sufficient.

  Whilst the term "largely self sufficient" has imprecise meaning and BW is working on a possible revision, we do want BW to grow its commercial business and alternative sources of funding so it can both invest more in the network and reduce central government's commitment over time. There is a critical balance here between the short and longer term—prioritising self sufficiency for the future might not deliver as many benefits as improved investment in the network in the shorter term; maximising the quantifiable best economic return from investment might therefore not always be the Government's priority if eg it resulted in a loss of confidence in the waterways because of a shortage of immediate investment. Furthermore the Status Review might deliver some opportunities for increased income in the future and the network needs protecting until these are achieved. It is worth noting that BW's investment in waterside property development/joint ventures with partners is supported not just because it might reduce Defra's financial commitment by growing the commercial business but because it can transform local economies and communities and is a strong contributor to regeneration and regional economic performance at the same time as enabling BW to invest more in the waterways over time.

 (iii)   Delivering a range of additional public policy benefits from BW operations.

  BW contributes to a wide range of policy objectives. Whilst most BW waterways' public benefits are delivered through (i) and (ii) above they also deliver a range of other benefits which are not incidental but are additional and need to be consciously planned, eg sustainable transport including freight; affordable housing; biodiversity enhancement and carbon reduction through micro energy generation. In many of these areas there are opportunities for BW to run innovative projects that can provide national exemplars. However, the Government recognises that such work has a cost attached and would need the injection of additional resource if (i) and (ii) were not to be adversely affected.

  5.  The overall Defra steer is that (i) is our top priority because it is the platform for delivering so many public benefits both now and for the future, but Government remains keen for BW also to do what it can to deliver (ii) and (iii) ie to become more self sufficient and to deliver additional public policy benefits where there is a good case for so doing and this will not have a damaging effect on delivering (i) and (ii).

  6.  Defra does not intend to be prescriptive in telling the BW Board how to discharge its statutory responsibilities or set detailed priorities between the additional public benefits identified above; indeed we look to the Board to strike a balance between the objectives, taking account of the costs and benefits and considering the Government's priorities as set out in its PSAs in deciding what they can reasonably achieve. In implementing these priorities we will expect of course BW to continue to consider its reputation and the perception of stakeholders, especially given Government is the shareholder. Our intention is to assist such prioritisation through working with the new Inter Departmental Group on Inland Waterways (IDG) in developing this strategic steer and inputting into BW's Corporate Plan so it can be formally endorsed by Defra as reflecting the Government's priorities for the period it covers.

EXPANSION OF THE NETWORK

  7.  BW's current vision is to expand the network and the Government remains supportive of this ambition in principle given the possible public benefits described. However the Government is not in favour of expansion if this compromises BW's ability to maintain the existing network through creating additional ongoing financial liabilities. Provided BW is satisfied that any such ongoing maintenance costs can be contained without such a risk, including without putting pressure on Government grant, we recognise that there will be particular circumstances where the multiple public benefits, including those to BW customers, of say connecting two separate stretches of canal can be significant. Restoration of unused canals can also capture the imagination of the public and produce tremendous volunteer resource but clearly—given the financial constraints—we would expect the capital funding to come from other sources than BW and Defra, eg RDAs or Lottery funds, and, as noted, that BW would seek to make sure its ongoing additional maintenance costs were covered by future return in some way. This also applies where restoration is to deliver wider regeneration benefits rather than waterways/BW business benefits ie where wider public benefits greatly outweigh future returns to BW. However Defra acknowledges that in exceptional circumstances BW might have to invest some of its capital on a de minimis seedcorn funding basis to get worthwhile projects off the ground.

BW CORPORATE PLANNING

  8.  As noted, the BW Board's decision making in relation to the balance to be struck between the objectives and priorities above will be reflected in the Corporate Plan for each rolling three year period. We would like the rationale behind the Plan to be sufficiently articulated for Defra to have clarity on what is being planned and why, including the trade offs that have been considered. This should set out the link to the Government's strategic objectives as reflected in its PSAs, which would be helpful to Ministers in endorsing the Plan. It should also have good indicators of projected achievement which can be monitored. Every time the Corporate Plan is signed off by Ministers they can then consider if they agree with the balance that has been struck by the Board or if they would prefer some adjustment. We can also then consider if there are additional benefits which Government might wish to buy, engaging OGDs in the IDG. It will probably be necessary to see some updated longer term projections, eg of commercial income, to give context to the Plan period and to help the assessment of risk.

"THE DEAL"

  9.  Defra is keen to work with its delivery partners on articulating an agreed "Deal" which will guide the way in which we work together and what can be expected of each other. It must be of mutual benefit to be satisfactory and is likely to involve some cultural change by both parties. The Deal will help to consolidate the progress Defra and BW have been making on the relationship issues identified by the EFRA Committee earlier this year. The draft Deal is attached at Annex A.

Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

March 2008

DEFRA/BW DEAL

  Defra and BW will:

  —  promote greater understanding between Defra and BW (both Executive and Board)

  —  work together on customer focus and effective engagement with stakeholders

  —  adopt a "No Surprises" policy, giving advance notice of intent, sharing press notices in advance and problems arising

  —  notwithstanding the need for appropriate accountability, both parties should seek to develop a "No Blame" culture, taking responsibility for their own decisions

  —  provide sufficient quality and staff resource to enable effective engagement with each other

  Defra will:

  —  give clarity on our strategic priorities

  —  give as much certainty of funding over three year periods as we can

  —  not seek to micromanage BW

  —  support the search for greater freedoms to enable BW to increase income

  —  work harder across Whitehall to promote the benefits of Inland Waterways to inform policy and encourage additional support

  —  support BW in the decisions it has to take in operating commercially

  —  encourage access to Ministers and senior officials and work to build trust

  BW will:

  —  manage risk with the BW Board being accountable for its decisions

  —  work to achieve clarity for Defra in BW decision making, investment and outputs given the complexity of the BW business, with appropriate suite of indicators, so Defra can monitor delivery and Ministers can have effective engagement in the business planning process

  —  keep Defra informed as agreed under the Financial Memorandum and as monitored by the Quarterly Shareholder Meeting

  —  seek to adopt a positive position on wider Government objectives including sustainable development and diversity

  —  work in partnership with the wider Defra network to achieve Defra's objectives efficiently

Sarah Nason, Deputy Director, Defra

13 February 2008

Robin Evans, BW Chief Executive

28 February 2008

Terms of reference for Interdepartmental Group

  To provide a focal point for

    —  more effective cross government coordination on inland waterways matters.

    —  a fuller understanding and recognition of the contribution that the inland waterways can make to government policies for climate change, environmental improvement, public health, recreation, regeneration, heritage, planning, transport and community cohesion.

    —  Discussion on proposed research into the social and economic value of the waterways and undertake a refresh of government policy for the waterways.

    —  Discussion on key strategic issues


Witnesses: Jonathan Shaw MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State (Marine, Landscape and Rural Affairs), Mr Robin Mortimer, Director, Natural Environment Group, and Ms Sarah Nason, Deputy Director, Environment Agency Sponsorship and Waterways Division, gave evidence.

  Q101 Chairman: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the second and final evidence session of our short inquiry into current issues affecting British Waterways. I am delighted that these occasions are proving an irresistible draw. If nothing else, I notice that representatives of British Waterways back here for the second time in 24 hours. We are delighted to see you but we are even more delighted to welcome formally before the Committee Jonathan Shaw, the Parliamentary Under-Secretary at Defra. Jonathan, this is your first time before the Committee and I know colleagues would want to extend their welcome to you, and we hope you will be very happy during your stay with us and indeed your stay in the Department. We also welcome Robin Mortimer, the Director of the Natural Environment Group at Defra, and Sarah Nason, Deputy Director, Environment Agency Sponsorship and Waterways Division, which I think ranks as one of the longest titles that we have had for some time. Minister, when we had your predecessor before us we got the impression that things were not quite as they ought to be in terms of those warm, cosy and friendly relationships that ministers always have with bodies which in Defra's case report to it. I think it might be helpful to us, in the light of the signing on 13 February of this year of the Defra/British Waterways deal, if you could tell us what you have done to bring harmony back into the relationship between your Department and British Waterways as witnessed by this document.

  Jonathan Shaw: Thank you, Chairman, and thank you for that warm welcome. I am delighted to be here and I am grateful to have the opportunity to talk about the waterways. Coming to your question, my answer is that in politics you have different relationships with the same people and so sometimes those relationships are difficult and sometimes those relationships are good, and I think that is the experience of people who hold ministerial office. I think that what we have seen in recent months is an acknowledgement by all sides following the very helpful and critical report that this Committee published saying that we could not carry on as we were. It was obviously a period of conflict but I think that we have moved on from that and hence the deal, the new arrangements, and again that is something that the Committee recommended. We have put those in place and I am satisfied that they are working well.


 
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