Select Committee on Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Written Evidence


Supplementary memorandum submitted by Professor Donald Knight (FL 85a)

Letter from Professor Donald W Knight to Reg Purnell, Chief Engineer, Flood Management Division, Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, 27 July 2007

INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF DEFRA/EA RESEARCH

  It was good to talk last week. I wanted to await the discussions on Monday last, before writing to you concerning the above, and also specifically concerning the Theme Advisory Group (TAG) on Fluvial, Estuarine and Coastal Processes (FCEP), whose demise the Report recommends. I have enjoyed serving on that Group for the last six years and also engaging in offering advice to you earlier, notably through the "Learning to live with rivers" ICE independent Commission & Report. I want to make just five points.

  1.  I welcome your proposals concerning a high-level board and key managers. The statement in 1.5 (page 3) that "the overall direction of the programme is weak" is a reasonable assessment in my experience, and your proposals concerning a high-level board should correct this. This appeared to be supported by most people on Monday, although there remains some fuzziness in the chain of command/consultation and management. However, it necessitates sufficiently technically competent personnel to be found to fill these positions. As you are aware, I am still somewhat concerned about the capability of some of the senior management within the Environment Agency in this respect, particularly when dealing with technical fluid flow issues. You have to look no further than the Jubilee channel as a monument to the "skills shortage" within the EA. A new £90 million channel takes only 2/3 of its design flow—how basic can you get? Especially when the EA has a new "Conveyance Estimation System", developed through a £0.5 million R&D managed programme, and then "launched" in June 2004. But it gets even worse, as, in another criticism of the EA, I have to say that the CES software is still not available to anybody within the Agency or by consultants who want it, due to EA "procedures"! They had two years advance warning of this and it is now three years since that project started. I could say more but I will no doubt bore you. Mervyn drove this very well, but there appear to very few champions like him within the EA. Thus staffing and skills issues within the EA are vital.

  2.  With respect to the "lack of focus", you may need to ask why the R&D programme (and TAGS) lacked "focus" in the past. Part of the reason is I believe because the previous R&D report (1999) was itself such a step-change that it probably got the division of subject material wrong, and hence the focus has been blurred. The joint Defra/EA approach was very sound and commendable, but it had six TAGs and three of them—Broad Scale Modelling (BSM), Engineering (ENG) and Fluvial, Estuarine and Coastal Processes (FCEP) should in my view have been incorporated into a single group as the basic core "engineering" or "technical" side of river engineering. Albeit a large group, it is important to keep these topics together. Experience of working in these three TAGs has demonstrated this. Part of the problem therefore has been the lack of appreciation concerning how "fluid flow" aspects (or call this old-fashioned hydraulics and hydrology "engineering" aspects if you like) drive the whole. My third point follows on from this.

  3.  I fear that the present report (June version) makes the same mistake again, particularly if you analyse the breakdown of topics in the Project Area Groups in Table 3.2. My concern is the way in which the topics are dealt with. This Table really makes little sense, and I was a surprised to see the muddle and confusion in their scientific thinking. For example, "core" modelling topics are seemingly distributed in a haphazard manner. Why are all those topics on "data", "uncertainty" and "models" placed under the "Risk and social dimensions" Theme? What has "benchmarking of 2-D models" got to do with this—surely this should be in an "Engineering" Theme? And why just 2-D models, what about the various types of 2-D and numerous 3-D models? I have just completed, together with another university, some research for the EPSRC on this very topic. My worry list could continue . . . Why are "data" and "sensitivity" placed in the "Flood incident" Theme? Why is "improved hydrometric practices" place solely in the same flood incident theme? Hydrometry is the often neglected topic, but germane to all. If ever there was a need to "measure more", "think more" and "model less", it is now. Clearly modelling is going to play a vital role in nearly all flood risk management, but there is a real need to understand the basic processes. Most river processes are very complex, and increasingly models are being used to deal with these problems. Hence there is crying need to understand the underlying basic processes better and hence to use the "tool" better. The user experience is vital. Running "models" is not just a question of button pushing. Two decades ago, the non-thinking automation of structural analysis led to a marked decline in the understanding of structural behaviour, and as a result the IStrucE had to re-educate their "tool" users. The same is happening in our profession, as young modellers get ever divorced from the reality of water in motion.

  And so to be positive, I think it is important that you do not attach "data" to "risk" as in your modified draft project project area grouping, as proposed on Monday. There is certainly a role for "risk" as a separate theme, maybe as a cross-cutting theme. I believe this was confirmed by the reaction of people on Monday in the discussions about "subject division". So please keep "data" with "processes" in an "engineering" theme. I was glad to see that the defra response was indeed to set up a more comprehensive "engineering" theme. I would add "data" to it. I concur with your view to increase the themes to five, on the proviso that due recognition (including resources) be given the larger engineering theme. I know that group is potentially unwieldy, with coasts, estuaries, rivers, data, processes and modelling as its core, but they fit together.

  4.  While I welcome any attempt to link some R&D work more closely with the Research Councils (recommendation 2.7, page 46), I totally disagree with the conclusions reached in section 1.5, No 3 (page 4), Section 2.3.2 (page 12), Section 2.6.1 (weaknesses, No 2, page 16), Themes (page 27) and conclusions 2.3.2 (page 46). It is wishful thinking that the EPSRC or NERC will undertake all such basic process work. From my long experience on EPSRC Panels and also having been an SERC co-ordinator, I know that much river work is unattractive to reviewers and there are other fluid flow processes that are often perceived to be more "attractive" and hence brought to the fore. In the last year I have seen at least three flood related bids regarding as "outstanding" (the highest grade within EPSRC) be turned down for various reasons, not always the most rational. It is therefore essential that defra and EA maintain their own core process element where it is required. Also, having been party to setting up the FRMRC, I have to say that it is still ignoring many of the basic research topics outlined in our Flood Network report of 2001.

  5.  I will not make much comment about the demise of the FCEP TAG, except to say that the reasons given in 3.2.2 (page 11) are unjustified and flawed. The logic on page 12 smacks of intellectual laziness ("difficult to evaluate", page 11) and ignorance "no clear customers", page 12). I reject both of these statements. With regard to the first what about improvements to FEH, High Flow data, Extension of rating curves and the CES work? With respect to the second the 34 page "Vision concerning the hydraulics knowledge base required in river engineering and associated research needs" sets out very clearly the issues and elaborates at least 10 "User needs". Did the authors of the report look at this? It is on your website. Further, as argued above, processes form a vital part of engineering, and many topics will never be researched by the Research Councils in the way required for Flood Risk Management.

  Finally, as you know, I will retire in a few years time, but I remain passionately concerned and committed to maintaining the science of fluid mechanics, as applied to rivers. We have an excellent MSc course at Birmingham and many PhD students (I have seven at the moment) all working in the area of interest to you. I am therefore ready to assist in whatever way I can, and trust that these comments will not just be taken as criticisms, but positive pointers. There is much that is good about UK Flood Risk Expertise, Hydrodynamic modelling, etc, and your R&D programme has many excellent aspects. I wish you well with your task.

Donald W Knight

Professor of Water Engineering

July 2007





 
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