Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 160-163)

MINISTRY OF DEFENCE

18 FEBRUARY 2008

  Q160  Mr Williams: I am sorry, I am running out of time, but tell us a little more about these service providers. I have not read the Report thoroughly, I must admit, this time. What background do they have? How many of them are there? What choices are there?

  Air Commodore Miles: There are many providers of training in this country, literally hundreds. What we seek to do is offer Service Leavers a good choice, not only through the Career Transition Partnership but through the preferred suppliers list, which is a list of accredited suppliers of quality training, value for money training, which we can recommend for Service Leavers but we cannot compel them to use those particular trainers. Up to a point there is an issue there of caveat emptor, just the same as there is for anybody else purchasing training from a provider.

  Q161  Mr Williams: There are so many of them that it is impossible to monitor them basically, is it not? That is the reality.

  Air Commodore Miles: To monitor them all is absolutely impossible. We take action where specific instances of poor value for money are brought to our attention but over and above that, as I say, we seek to reduce the risk to Service Leavers through rolling out more training through the Career Transition Partnership and also by having a comprehensive list of preferred suppliers on the major disciplines. We cannot possibly cover everything to deliver that.

  Sir Bill Jeffrey: The only way we could eliminate the risk altogether would be by requiring our people only to use those providers that are on the approved list.

  Air Commodore Miles: That would be impossible.

  Q162  Mr Williams: NAO, I recognise this is beyond the remit you were working to, is there any advice you can give to them on how they can more effectively monitor the suppliers? Under the arrangement at the moment it seems almost anyone can set up and say they are a supplier and collect a fee.

  Mr Burr: We certainly have done work in other areas of control of training providers and we will look at that and see if there is anything we can pass on.

  Mr Williams: Air Commodore, if you could let me have the information from you. Thank you very much.

  Q163  Chairman: Thank you, Sir Bill. That concludes our inquiry. Generally, you are right, it is a good Report and things are getting better but there are some gaps, as I think you have identified, which we may return to in our report.

  Sir Bill Jeffrey: Could I say, Chairman, if I am allowed to, we genuinely appreciate the fact that the Committee took the trouble to go to Aldershot and look at it there. It was noticed and much appreciated.

  Chairman: Thank you very much.





 
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