Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Question Numbers 120-126)

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORT, NETWORK RAIL, OFFICE OF RAIL REGULATION AND ASSOCIATION OF TRAIN OPERATING COMPANIES

4 JUNE 2008

  Q120  Chairman: What about the way the staff deal with the passengers?

  Mr Franks: I would like to think there has been some improvement. GNER in their time did a good job with the staff on the East Coast Main Line and I think towards the end of the franchise some heads went down; I think some heads have come back up now. I would like to think that we have made an immediate impact but I think there is always a lot to do to keep that going.

  Q121  Chairman: Do you mind if I ask a purely personal question? Mobile phones drive me absolutely round the bend on trains. Why do you not have a quiet coach in first class as well as second class? Or extend quiet coaches generally? There is nothing worse than people who just witter inanities into their mobile phone endlessly.

  Mr Franks: It is a difficult balance because there are a limited number of seats in first class and a lot of people want to use the space to actually work.

  Q122  Chairman: We are in the era now of blackberries and texting and all the rest of it. It is not necessary for people to have lengthy meetings on their mobile phones, is it?

  Mr Franks: It is a difficult call. Some people would say that but other people would say they want to be able to use their mobile phones.

  Q123  Chairman: So you are not going to do anything about it.

  Mr Franks: I will certainly take the point you have made.

  Q124  Mr Davidson: Perhaps you could have a special section for boring calls and another for interesting calls. Some of the calls I hear are actually quite interesting. People obviously have far more exciting lives than I do! Going back to the question of compensation Dr Mitchell, I see in paragraph 3.12 that there are negotiations under way to have harmonisation of compensation as part of the franchise agreement. Do you have any idea when that is likely to take place and are you meeting with any resistance?

  Dr Mitchell: I would not say that we are meeting with any resistance, but we have so far got to delay repay arrangements with a large number of franchises. I can give you the list here if you wish: Arriva Cross Country, East Midlands Trains, Chiltern Railways, First Capital Connect, Gatwick Express, London Midland and the two National Express East Anglia and East Coast franchises. We would expect, to answer your question directly, to complete that when we complete the full round of franchises.

  Q125  Mr Davidson: None of the new arrangements are worse than the best of the previous arrangements.

  Dr Mitchell: No, that is correct. In fact there is a fair amount of evidence that the individuals who are delayed are getting a better deal from the new arrangements than they were out of the more generalised season ticket discounts and other arrangements that applied before.

  Q126  Mr Davidson: Just to be clear, the new arrangements are better than all the old arrangements, are they?

  Dr Mitchell: We believe so, yes.

  Chairman: Thank you very much gentlemen. As trains become more popular they become more crowded and we are still looking at 10,000 days of delays suffered by travellers so there is a lot of hard work still to be done, but we are grateful for your efforts. If one thing comes from this hearing I am sure we would like to stress the absolute vital importance of sharing information as quickly as possible with passengers. Thank you very much.





 
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