House of Lords Journal 240 (Session 2006-07)


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Wednesday 7 February 2007

The House met at 9.45am

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Hayman, B. (Lord Speaker)

Acton, L.
Adams of Craigielea, B.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alderdice, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anderson of Swansea, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L.
Arran, E.
Ashcroft, L.
Ashdown of Norton-sub-
    Hamdon, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Best, L.
Bhatia, L.
Biffen, L.
Bilimoria, L.
Billingham, B.
Bilston, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blackwell, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bottomley of Nettlestone, B.
Bowness, L.
Boyd of Duncansby, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradley, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bramall, L.
Brennan, L.
Brett, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Browne of Belmont, L.
Bruce-Lockhart, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnett, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butler-Sloss, B.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carlile of Berriew, L.
Carrington, L.
Carter of Coles, L.
Chadlington, L.
Chandos, V.
Chidgey, L.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clark of Windermere, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Colville of Culross, V.
Colwyn, L.
Condon, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Corston, B.
Cotter, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Crisp, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Mauley, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dear, L.
Deech, B.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
D’Souza, B.
Dubs, L.
Dundee, E.
Durham, Bp.
Dykes, L.
Eames, L.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles, V.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Eden of Winton, L.
Elder, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Emerton, B.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkender, B.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Feldman, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Finlay of Llandaff, B.
Fookes, B.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Foster of Bishop Auckland, L.
Foulkes of Cumnock, L.
Fowler, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freeman, L.
Freyberg, L.
Fyfe of Fairfield, L.
Gale, B.
Garden, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geddes, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Giddens, L.
Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Golding, B.
Goodhart, L.
Goodlad, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goschen, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Greaves, L.
Greengross, B.
Griffiths of Burry Port, L.
Grocott, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Hannay of Chiswick, L.
Hanningfield, L.
Harries of Pentregarth, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Hart of Chilton, L.
Haskel, L.
Haskins, L.
Haworth, L.

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Hayhoe, L.
Healey, L.
Henig, B.
Henley, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Hooper, B.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howarth of Newport, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hylton, L.
Imbert, L.
Inge, L.
Inglewood, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
James of Blackheath, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Ewelme, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Joffe, L.
Jones, L.
Jones of Cheltenham, L.
Jopling, L.
Jordan, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kilclooney, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinnock, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Kirkwood of Kirkhope, L.
Laidlaw, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Leach of Fairford, L.
Lee of Trafford, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Lindsay, E.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
London, Bp.
Low of Dalston, L.
Lucas, L.
Luce, L.
Luke, L.
McAlpine of West Green, L.
Macaulay of Bragar, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McDonagh, B.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackay of Clashfern, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McKenzie of Luton, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Maclennan of Rogart, L.
McNally, L.
Maginnis of Drumglass, L.
Mance, L.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marland, L.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Maxton, L.
May of Oxford, L.
Meacher, B.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mitchell, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Montrose, D.
Moonie, L.
Morgan of Drefelin, B.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Bolton, B.
Morris of Handsworth, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Moser, L.
Murphy, B.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Naseby, L.
Neuberger, B.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Noakes, B.
Northbrook, L.
Northover, B.
Norton of Louth, L.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
O’Cathain, B.
O’Neill of Bengarve, B.
Onslow, E.
Ouseley, L.
Oxburgh, L.
Palmer, L.
Parekh, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Pendry, L.
Peston, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Plumb, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Powell of Bayswater, L.
Prashar, B.
Prosser, B.
Prys-Davies, L.
Quin, B.
Quinton, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Ramsbotham, L.
Rana, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rees of Ludlow, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rennard, L.
Renton, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Richard, L.
Richardson of Calow, B.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Roberts of Llandudno, L.
Robertson of Port Ellen, L.
Rochester, Bp.
Rodger of Earlsferry, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogan, L.
Rooker, L.
Roper, L.
Rosser, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rowe-Beddoe, L.
Royall of Blaisdon, B.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sanderson of Bowden, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Scott of Foscote, L.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Selsdon, L.
Sewel, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Sheldon, L.
Shephard of Northwold, B.
Shrewsbury, E.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon, V.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Finsbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Snape, L.
Soley, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Sterling of Plaistow, L.
Stern, B.
Stevens of Kirkwhelpington, L.
Stevens of Ludgate, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Bolton, B.
Taylor of Holbeach, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Tenby, V.
Teverson, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.

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Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomas of Winchester, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trenchard, V.
Triesman, L.
Trimble, L.
Trumpington, B.
Truscott, L.
Tugendhat, L.
Tunnicliffe, L.
Turnberg, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Tyler, L.
Uddin, B.
Valentine, B.
Verma, B.
Vinson, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Wall of New Barnet, B.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walmsley, B.
Walpole, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Watson of Richmond, L.
Waverley, V.
Whitaker, B.
Whitty, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Willoughby de Broke, L.
Windlesham, L.
Woolf, L.
Young of Hornsey, B.
Young of Norwood Green, L.

Prayers were read by the Lord Bishop of London

Judicial Business

For judicial business see below.

The House adjourned. The House resumed.

Select Committee Reports

1    Statutory Instruments    

The following Report from the Joint Committee was made and ordered to be printed:

8th Report on certain statutory instruments, including the following affirmative instruments:

Draft Tax Credits Up-rating Regulations 2007

Draft Child Benefit Up-rating Order 2007

Draft Children and Young Persons (Sale of Tobacco etc.) Order 2007

Draft Environmental Offences (Use of Fixed Penalty Receipts) Regulations 2007

Draft Guardian’s Allowance Up-rating (Northern Ireland) Order 2007

Draft Guardian’s Allowance Up-rating Order 2007

Draft Industrial Training Levy (Construction Industry Training Board) Order 2007

Draft Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Industry Training Board) Order 2007

Draft Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000 (Renewal of Temporary Provisions) Order 2007

Draft Police, Public Order and Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act 2006 (Consequential Provisions and Modifications) Order 2007

Draft Post Office Network Subsidy Scheme Order 2007

Draft Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 (Continuance in force of sections 1 to 9) Order 2007

Draft Smoke-free (Exemptions and Vehicles) Regulations 2007

Draft Smoke-free (Penalties and Discounted Amounts) Regulations 2007

Draft Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating and National Insurance Funds Payments) Order 2007

Draft Tourist Boards (Scotland) Act 2006 (Consequential Modifications) Order 2007. (HL Paper 50)

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2    Constitution Committee    

The following Report from the Select Committee was made and ordered to be printed:

Waging war: Parliament’s role and responsibility: Follow-up (3rd Report, HL Paper 51).

Public Business

3    Armed Forces accommodation A question was asked by Lord Bramall and answered by Baroness Crawley.

4    Monetary Policy Committee A question was asked by Lord Barnett and answered by Lord Davies of Oldham.

5    Deployment of British forces overseas A question was asked by Lord Goodlad and answered by Lord Falconer of Thoroton.

6    Climate change A question was asked by Lord Clinton-Davis and answered by Lord Rooker.

7    House of Lords: reform Lord Falconer of Thoroton repeated a ministerial statement made in the House of Commons.

8    Justice and Security (Northern Ireland) Bill A bill to make provision about justice and security in Northern Ireland was brought from the Commons. It was read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 42)

9    Justice and Security (Northern Ireland) Bill The Explanatory Notes on the bill were ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 42-EN)

10    Procedure of the House The Chairman of Committees moved that the First Report from the Select Committee (HL Paper 15) be agreed to, except for paragraph 8. The motion was agreed to.

11    Procedure of the House The Chairman of Committees moved that the 2nd Report from the Select Committee (HL Paper 25) be agreed to. The motion was agreed to.

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton moved that the House do adjourn during pleasure for five minutes. The motion was withdrawn.

12    Serious Crime Bill [HL] Baroness Scotland of Asthal moved that the bill be now read a second time. After debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

13    Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment (Waste Management Licensing) (England and Wales) Regulations 2006 Lord Greaves moved that a Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty praying that the Regulations laid before the House on 15 December 2006 be annulled (SI 2006/3315). After debate, the motion was withdrawn.

The House adjourned at 8.10pm until Thursday 8 February at 11.00am.

Papers

All statutory instruments laid before the House are accompanied by an Explanatory Memorandum presented by command of Her Majesty, unless otherwise indicated.

Command Papers

The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty:

1    Finance—Treasury Minutes on the First and Fifth Reports from the Committee of Public Accounts.             (7018)

2    Lords Reform—The House of Lords: Reform: Government proposals.         (7027)

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Affirmative Instrument

The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by resolution:

Draft Scottish Parliament (Elections etc.) Order 2007, laid under the Scotland Act 1998.

Negative Instruments

The following instruments were laid before the House:

1    Education (Student Support) Regulations 2007, laid under the Teaching and Higher Education Act 1998.                 (176)

2    Education (Prohibition from Teaching or Working with Children) (Amendment) Regulations 2007, laid under the Education Act 2002.         (195)

3    Day Care and Child Minding (Disqualification) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2007, laid under the Children Act 1989.         (197)

4    Local Access Forums (England) Regulations 2007, laid under the Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000.             (268)

5    Guarantees of Origin of Electricity Produced from High-efficiency Cogeneration Regulations 2007, laid under the European Communities Act 1972.         (292)

Judicial Business

1    Beggs (AP) (Respondent) v Scottish Ministers (Appellants) (Scotland) It was moved by Lord Hope of Craighead on behalf of Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead, That the 11th Report of the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the appeal be allowed and the Interlocutor of the First Division of the Inner House of the Court of Session in Scotland of 11 March 2005 recalled in so far as it ordered the attendance at the By Order hearing on 15 March 2005 of Mr Tony Cameron, Chief Executive, Scottish Prison Service and Mr Ian D F Gunn, Governor of Her Majesty’s Prison, Peterhead; that the appellants do pay to the respondent his costs in this House, the amount of such costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties; and that the costs of the respondent in this House be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid (Scotland) Act 1986, such costs to include the costs of the hearing and a certificate for two junior counsel and to be assessed on the standard basis. [2007] UKHL 3

2    AK (Pakistan) (Petitioner) v Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) The petition of AK praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 8 December).

3    Phillips and another (suing as administrators of the estate of Christo Michailidis) (Appellants) v Symes and others (Respondents) and others The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee (lodged 6 February).

4    R (on the application of Stellato) (FC) (Respondent) v Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) The respondent’s certificate of public funding was lodged.