Wednesday 16 May 2007
The House met at 9.45am
The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:
Hayman, B. (Lord Speaker)
Adams of Craigielea, B.
Addington, L.
Adonis, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alderdice, L.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Andrews, B.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L.
Ashcroft, L.
Ashdown of Norton-sub-
Hamdon, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Bagri, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Ballyedmond, L.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Best, L.
Bew, L.
Bhatia, L.
Biffen, L.
Billingham, B.
Bilston, L.
Birt, L.
Blackstone, B.
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Blackwell, L.
Blaker, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Blood, B.
Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bottomley of Nettlestone, B.
Bowness, L.
Boyce, L.
Boyd of Duncansby, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradley, L.
Bragg, L.
Bramall, L.
Brennan, L.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Bridges, L.
Broers, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce-Lockhart, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnett, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butler-Sloss, B.
Byford, B.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carlile of Berriew, L.
Carrington, L.
Carter of Coles, L.
Cathcart, E.
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Chadlington, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Chelmsford, Bp.
Chidgey, L.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Colville of Culross, V.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Cotter, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crisp, L.
Cunningham of Felling, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davidson of Glen Clova, L.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Mauley, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dear, L.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Drayson, L.
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D’Souza, B.
Dubs, L.
Dundee, E.
Dykes, L.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles, V.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Elder, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Elystan-Morgan, L.
Emerton, B.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkender, B.
Falkland, V.
Falkner of Margravine, B.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Feldman, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Finlay of Llandaff, B.
Flowers, L.
Fookes, B.
Ford, B.
Foster of Bishop Auckland, L.
Foulkes of Cumnock, L.
Fowler, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freeman, L.
Freyberg, L.
Fritchie, B.
Gale, B.
Garden, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Gavron, L.
Geddes, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Giddens, L.
Gilbert, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Golding, B.
Goldsmith, L.
Goodhart, L.
Goodlad, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Brookwood, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Greaves, L.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Griffiths of Burry Port, L.
Grocott, L.
Hamilton of Epsom, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Hanningfield, L.
Harries of Pentregarth, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Hart of Chilton, L.
Haskel, L.
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Haworth, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Henig, B.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Hoffmann, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howard of Rising, L.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howarth of Newport, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hylton, L.
Inglewood, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
James of Blackheath, L.
James of Holland Park, B.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Joffe, L.
Jones, L.
Jones of Cheltenham, L.
Jones of Whitchurch, B.
Jopling, L.
Jordan, L.
Judd, L.
Kilclooney, L.
Kimball, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinnock, L.
Kirkham, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Kirkwood of Kirkhope, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Laird, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lee of Trafford, L.
Leicester, Bp.
Leitch, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Lindsay, E.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Low of Dalston, L.
Lucas, L.
Luce, L.
Luke, L.
Macaulay of Bragar, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
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McDonagh, B.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackay of Clashfern, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McKenzie of Luton, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
Maclennan of Rogart, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Maginnis of Drumglass, L.
Mance, L.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marland, L.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mawhinney, L.
Maxton, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Meacher, B.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mitchell, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montrose, D.
Moonie, L.
Moran, L.
Morgan, L.
Morgan of Drefelin, B.
Morgan of Huyton, B.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Bolton, B.
Morris of Handsworth, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Morris of Yardley, B.
Moser, L.
Murphy, B.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Naseby, L.
Neuberger, B.
Neuberger of Abbotsbury, L.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Noakes, B.
Northbourne, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Northover, B.
Norton of Louth, L.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
O’Cathain, B.
O’Neill of Bengarve, B.
O’Neill of Clackmannan, L.
Onslow, E.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Owen, L.
Oxburgh, L.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Patel of Bradford, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
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Pendry, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Peston, L.
Peterborough, Bp.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Plumb, L.
Portsmouth, Bp.
Powell of Bayswater, L.
Prosser, B.
Prys-Davies, L.
Quin, B.
Quinton, L.
Quirk, L.
Radice, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Ramsbotham, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Richard, L.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Roberts of Llandudno, L.
Robertson of Port Ellen, L.
Rogan, L.
Rooker, L.
Roper, L.
Rosser, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowe-Beddoe, L.
Rowlands, L.
Royall of Blaisdon, B.
Russell-Johnston, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
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Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Scott of Foscote, L.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Selsdon, L.
Sewel, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Sheikh, L.
Sheldon, L.
Shephard of Northwold, B.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon, V.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.
Slynn of Hadley, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Finsbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Snape, L.
Soley, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Southwell and Nottingham, Bp.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Steinberg, L.
Stern, B.
Stevens of Ludgate, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Bolton, B.
Taylor of Holbeach, L.
Tebbit, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Teverson, L.
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Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomas of Winchester, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tonge, B.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trenchard, V.
Triesman, L.
Trimble, L.
Truro, Bp.
Truscott, L.
Tunnicliffe, L.
Turnberg, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Tyler, L.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Verma, B.
Vincent of Coleshill, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.
Wall of New Barnet, B.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walmsley, B.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Waverley, V.
Whitty, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Willoughby de Broke, L.
Winchester, Bp.
Windlesham, L.
Woolf, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Worcester, Bp.
Young of Hornsey, B.
Young of Norwood Green, L.
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Prayers were read by the Lord Bishop of Leicester
Judicial Business
For judicial business see below.
The House adjourned. The House resumed.
Select Committee Reports
1 Science and Technology The following Report from the Select Committee was made and ordered to be printed:
Radioactive Waste Management: an Update. (4th Report, HL Paper 109)
2 Statutory Instruments The following Report from the Joint Committee was made and ordered to be printed:
17th Report on certain statutory instruments, including the following affirmative instruments:
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Draft North/South Co-operation (Implementation Bodies) (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 2007
Draft Trade Marks (Relative Grounds) Order 2007. (HL Paper 110)
Public Business
3 Personal Statement A personal statement was made by Lord Falconer of Thoroton.
4 Terrorism A question was asked by Viscount Waverley and answered by Lord Triesman.
5 Common Agricultural Policy: Single Farm Payment A question was asked by Baroness Byford and answered by Lord Rooker.
6 Olympic Games 2012: arts funding A question was asked by Lord Sheldon and answered by Lord Evans of Temple Guiting.
7 Schools: ancient history A question was asked by Lord Faulkner of Worcester and answered by Lord Adonis.
8 Medical Training Application Service Lord Hunt of Kings Heath repeated a ministerial statement made in the House of Commons.
9 Offender Management Bill The bill was considered in Committee. Amendment 1 was disagreed to (see division list). The House resumed.
10 Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill The bill was returned from the Commons with certain Lords amendments disagreed to but with an amendment proposed in lieu thereof, and with the remaining Lords amendments agreed to. The Commons amendment was ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 72)
11 Coastal access A question was asked by Lord Greaves and, after debate, answered by Lord Rooker.
The House adjourned. The House resumed.
12 Offender Management Bill The bill was further considered in Committee, beginning with amendment 5. The House resumed after amendment 11.
13 Building Societies (Funding) and Mutual Societies (Transfers) Bill The Explanatory Notes on the bill were ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 65-EN)
The House adjourned at 9.56pm until Thursday 17 May at 11.00am.
Papers
All statutory instruments laid before the House are accompanied by an Explanatory Memorandum presented by command of Her Majesty, unless otherwise indicated.
Instrument Withdrawn
The following instrument, laid before the House on 14 May, was withdrawn:
Draft Armed Forces (Service Police Amendments) Order 2007.
Command Papers
The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty:
Departmental Performance—
(1) UK Trade and Investment Departmental Report for 2006-07. (7101)
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(2) Department for Work and Pensions Departmental Report for 2006-07. (7105)
Affirmative Instruments
The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by resolution:
1 Draft Armed Forces (Service Police Amendments) Order 2007, laid under the Armed Forces Act 2006.
2 Draft Vaccine Damage Payments Act 1979 Statutory Sum Order 2007, laid under the Vaccine Damage Payments Act 1979.
Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings
The following paper was laid before the House:
Guidance on the Assessment of Gypsy and Traveller Accommodation Needs, laid under the Housing Act 2004.
Judicial Business
1 W (China) (FC) and another (FC) (Petitioners) v Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) The petition of W and X praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioners’ certificates of public funding were lodged.
2 Moore (Petitioner) v Moore (Respondent) The petition of James Bernard Moore praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
3 Birmingham City Council (Appellants) v Walker (FC) (Respondent) It was moved by Lord Hoffman, That the 31st Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 22 June 2006 be affirmed and the appeal dismissed; that the appellants do pay or cause to be paid to the respondent his costs of the appeal to this House, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties; and that the costs of the respondent be taxed in accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999. [2007] UKHL 22
4 Datec Electronics Holdings Limited and Others (Respondents) v United Parcels Services Limited (Appellants) It was moved by Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the 32nd Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 29 November 2005 be affirmed and the appeal dismissed; and that the appellants do pay or cause to be paid to the respondents their costs of the appeal to this House, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties. [2007] UKHL 23
Division
Offender Management Bill
Division No. 1
Baroness Anelay of St Johns moved amendment 1, before clause 1, to insert the new clause Principles applicable to this Act. The Committee divided:
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Contents
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Astor of Hever, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce-Lockhart, L.
Byford, B.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]
Courtown, E.
Crathorne, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Denham, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Elton, L.
Ferrers, E.
Fookes, B.
Fowler, L.
Geddes, L.
Glentoran, L.
Greenway, L.
Hanningfield, L.
Henley, L.
Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hylton, L.
Inglewood, L.
Kimball, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Lindsay, E.
Low of Dalston, L.
Luke, L.
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
Marlesford, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mawhinney, L.
Monson, L.
Montrose, D.
Morris of Bolton, B.
Northbourne, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton of Louth, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Plumb, L.
Rees, L.
Rotherwick, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Seccombe, B. [Teller]
Steinberg, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
Taylor of Holbeach, L.
Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Trenchard, V.
Ullswater, V.
Verma, B.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Windlesham, L.
Worcester, Bp.
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Adams of Craigielea, B.
Addington, L.
Adonis, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alderdice, L.
Alli, L.
Amos, B. (Lord President)
Andrews, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Best, L.
Birt, L.
Blackstone, B.
Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bradley, L.
Bragg, L.
Brett, L.
Bridges, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnett, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Colville of Culross, V.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Cotter, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crawley, B.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davidson of Glen Clova, L.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dubs, L.
Dykes, L.
Elder, L.
Elystan-Morgan, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Falkender, B.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Finlay of Llandaff, B.
Foster of Bishop Auckland, L.
Fritchie, B.
Gale, B.
Gilbert, L.
Golding, B.
Goldsmith, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
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Grantchester, L.
Greaves, L.
Griffiths of Burry Port, L.
Grocott, L. [Teller]
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrison, L.
Hart of Chilton, L.
Haworth, L.
Henig, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howarth of Newport, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jones, L.
Jones of Cheltenham, L.
Judd, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lee of Trafford, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Lockwood, B.
McDonagh, B.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
McKenzie of Luton, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNally, L.
Mar, C.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Maxton, L.
Moonie, L.
Morgan of Drefelin, B.
Morgan of Huyton, B.
Morris of Yardley, B.
Neuberger, B.
Northover, B.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Quin, B.
Radice, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Ramsbotham, L.
Razzall, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L.
Roberts of Llandudno, L.
Rogan, L.
Rooker, L.
Roper, L.
Rosser, L.
Rowe-Beddoe, L.
Rowlands, L.
Royall of Blaisdon, B.
Sandberg, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sewel, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soley, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
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Taylor of Bolton, B.
Temple-Morris, L.
Teverson, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomas of Winchester, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Triesman, L.
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Truscott, L.
Tunnicliffe, L.
Turnberg, L.
Tyler, L.
Uddin, B.
Wall of New Barnet, B.
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Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walpole, L.
Warner, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Whitty, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Young of Norwood Green, L.
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