Thursday 11 October 2007
The House met at 11.00 am
The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:
Hayman, B. (Lord Speaker)
Acton, L.
Adams of Craigielea, B.
Addington, L.
Adebowale, L.
Adonis, L.
Ahmed, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anderson of Swansea, L.
Andrews, B.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Arran, E.
Ashdown of Norton-sub-
Hamdon, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Best, L.
Bew, L.
Bhatia, L.
Bilimoria, L.
Billingham, B.
Bilston, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Boyd of Duncansby, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradley, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Bramall, L.
Brennan, L.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Burnett, L.
Buscombe, B.
Byford, B.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carlile of Berriew, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter of Coles, L.
Cathcart, E.
Chandos, V.
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Chidgey, L.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clark of Windermere, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Corston, B.
Cotter, L.
Courtown, E.
Coussins, B.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Cunningham of Felling, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Darzi of Denham, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Mauley, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dear, L.
Dearing, L.
Deech, B.
Denham, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Drayson, L.
D’Souza, B.
Dubs, L.
Dykes, L.
Eames, L.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles, V.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Elder, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Elystan-Morgan, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Falkner of Margravine, B.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
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Flather, B.
Flowers, L.
Fookes, B.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Foster of Bishop Auckland, L.
Foulkes of Cumnock, L.
Fowler, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freeman, L.
Freyberg, L.
Fritchie, B.
Gale, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Gavron, L.
Geddes, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Giddens, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Golding, B.
Goodhart, L.
Goodlad, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Brookwood, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Greaves, L.
Greengross, B.
Gregson, L.
Grocott, L.
Hameed, L.
Hamilton of Epsom, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Hart of Chilton, L.
Haskel, L.
Haworth, L.
Henig, B.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howard of Rising, L.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howarth of Newport, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hylton, L.
Inglewood, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
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James of Blackheath, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Ewelme, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jones, L.
Jones of Cheltenham, L.
Jones of Whitchurch, B.
Jopling, L.
Jordan, L.
Judd, L.
Kilclooney, L.
Kimball, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Kirkwood of Kirkhope, L.
Krebs, L.
Laird, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lee of Trafford, L.
Leitch, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Livsey of Talgarth, L.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Low of Dalston, L.
Lucas, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McKenzie of Luton, L.
MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
Maclennan of Rogart, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Maginnis of Drumglass, L.
Mancroft, L.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mawson, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Montrose, D.
Moonie, L.
Morgan, L.
Morgan of Drefelin, B.
Morgan of Huyton, B.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Bolton, B.
Morris of Handsworth, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Morrow, L.
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Moser, L.
Naseby, L.
Neuberger, B.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Noakes, B.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Northover, B.
Norton of Louth, L.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
O’Cathain, B.
O’Neill of Clackmannan, L.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Ouseley, L.
Palmer, L.
Parekh, L.
Patel of Bradford, L.
Paul, L.
Pendry, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Peston, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Platt of Writtle, B.
Plumb, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Powell of Bayswater, L.
Prosser, B.
Prys-Davies, L.
Quin, B.
Quinton, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Ramsbotham, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.
Rennard, L.
Richard, L.
Ripon and Leeds, Bp.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Roberts of Llandudno, L.
Robertson of Port Ellen, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogan, L.
Rooker, L.
Roper, L.
Rosser, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rowlands, L.
Royall of Blaisdon, B.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
St John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Selsdon, L.
Sewel, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
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Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Sheikh, L.
Sheldon, L.
Shephard of Northwold, B.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon, V.
Skidelsky, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Finsbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Snape, L.
Soley, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stern, B.
Stevens of Kirkwhelpington, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Bolton, B.
Taylor of Holbeach, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Teverson, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomas of Winchester, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trenchard, V.
Triesman, L.
Trimble, L.
Trumpington, B.
Truscott, L.
Tunnicliffe, L.
Turnberg, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Verma, B.
Vincent of Coleshill, L.
Waddington, L.
Wakeham, L.
Wall of New Barnet, B.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walmsley, B.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
West of Spithead, L.
Whitaker, B.
Whitty, L.
Wilcox, B.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Winchester, Bp.
Windlesham, L.
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Winston, L.
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Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.
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Prayers were read by the Lord Bishop of Winchester
Public Business
1 Gulf War illnesses A question was asked by Lord Morris of Manchester and answered by Lord Drayson.
2 Food labelling A question was asked by Baroness Oppenheim-Barnes and answered by Baroness Royall of Blaisdon.
3 Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974: reform A question was asked by Lord Dholakia and answered by Lord Hunt of Kings Heath.
4 Tax credits A question was asked by Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay and answered by Lord Davies of Oldham.
5 Crossrail Bill The Examiners reported that in the case of certain amendments proposed in the House of Commons Select Committee on the bill, the Standing Orders have not been complied with in respect of the time prescribed by the Standing Orders for the giving of notices and making of deposits in connection with the amendments. The report was referred to the Standing Orders Committee.
6 European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Partnership and Cooperation Agreement) (Republic of Tajikistan) Order 2007
7 Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions (England) Representations and Appeals Regulations 2007
8 Traffic Management Permit Scheme (England) Regulations 2007
9 Criminal Defence Service (Very High Cost Cases) Regulations 2007
The Lord President (Baroness Ashton of Upholland) moved that the draft instruments be referred to a Grand Committee en bloc. The motion was agreed to.
10 Sustainable Communities Bill The bill was read a third time and passed.
11 UK Borders Bill The report stage was continued, beginning with amendment 12. Amendment 17 was disagreed to (see division list 1). The report stage was adjourned.
12 Financial markets Lord Davies of Oldham repeated a ministerial statement made in the House of Commons.
13 Gambling: sport A question was asked by Lord Faulkner of Worcester and, after debate, answered by Lord Davies of Oldham.
The House adjourned. The House resumed.
14 UK Borders Bill The report stage was continued, beginning with amendment 18. Amendment 18 was disagreed to (see division list 2). The report stage was adjourned after amendment 31.
15 Greater London Authority Bill The bill was returned from the Commons with certain amendments disagreed to with reasons for such disagreement and the remaining amendments agreed to. It was ordered that the Commons reasons be printed. (HL Bill 103)
16 Further Education and Training Bill [HL] The bill was returned from the Commons with the Commons amendments not insisted on but with amendments proposed in lieu thereof. It was ordered that the Commons amendments be printed. (HL Bill 104)
The House adjourned at 6.43pm until Friday 12 October at 11.00am.
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Papers
All statutory instruments laid before the House are accompanied by an Explanatory Memorandum presented by command of Her Majesty, unless otherwise indicated.
Command Paper
The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty:
International Labour Conference—Presentation of the Convention and two Recommendations adopted at the 95th Session of the International Labour Conference (2006) and the proposed action by the United Kingdom on the Convention and Recommendations. (7217)
Negative Instruments
The following instruments were laid before the House:
1 Social Fund Cold Weather Payments (General) Amendment Regulations 2007, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992. (2912)
2 Transfer of Functions (Equality) Order 2007, laid under the European Communities Act 1972.
(2914)
3 Transport for London (Consequential Provisions) Order 2007, laid under the Greater London Authority Act 1999. (2935)
4 Plant Health (England) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 2007, laid under the Plant Health Act 1967.
(2950)
5 (1) Young Offender Institution (Amendment) Rules 2007 (2953)
(2) Prison (Amendment) Rules 2007 (2954)
laid under the Prison Act 1952.
Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings
The following paper was laid before the House:
Accounts for 2006-07 of the Marine and Aviation Insurance (War Risks) Fund, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Marine and Aviation Insurance (War Risks) Act 1952.
Judicial Business
1 Malcolm (Petitioner) v Director of Public Prosecutions (Respondent) The petition of Narinda Malcolm praying for an extension of time within which the petition may be lodged and for leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
2 Scottish & Newcastle plc (Original Respondents and Cross-petitioners) v Raguz (Original Petitioner and Cross-respondent) The petition of Scottish & Newcastle plc praying for leave to cross-appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 10 October).
3 MS (Ivory Coast) (Respondent) v Secretary of State for the Home Department (Appellant) The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee (lodged 10 October).
4 Simmers (Respondent) v Innes (Appellant) (Scotland) The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee (lodged 10 October).
5 Appeal Committee The following Orders were made pursuant to the 76th Report:
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McKinnon (Petitioner) v Government of the United States of America (Respondents) and another That leave to appeal be given on the first certified question only; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 25 October.
R v Finch (Petitioner) That leave to appeal be refused.
Divisions
UK Borders Bill
Division No. 1
Lord Roberts of Llandudno moved amendment 17, after clause 17, to insert the new clause Withdrawal of support: repeal. The House divided:
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Contents
Addington, L.
Avebury, L.
Barker, B.
Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.
Burnett, L.
Chidgey, L.
Chorley, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Cotter, L.
D’Souza, B.
Dholakia, L.
Dykes, L.
Elton, L.
Falkland, V.
Falkner of Margravine, B.
Goodhart, L.
Hamwee, B.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Hylton, L.
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Jones of Cheltenham, L.
Judd, L.
Lee of Trafford, L.
Listowel, E.
Livsey of Talgarth, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Newby, L.
Northover, B.
O’Cathain, B.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Razzall, L.
Redesdale, L.
Ripon and Leeds, Bp.
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Roberts of Llandudno, L. [Teller]
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogan, L.
Roper, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandwich, E.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Selsdon, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shutt of Greetland, L. [Teller]
Smith of Clifton, L.
Stern, B.
Teverson, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomas of Winchester, B.
Tordoff, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walmsley, B.
Walpole, L.
Winchester, Bp.
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Not Contents
Acton, L.
Adams of Craigielea, B.
Adonis, L.
Ahmed, L.
Anderson of Swansea, L.
Andrews, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B. (Lord President)
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Billingham, B.
Bilston, L.
Borrie, L.
Boyd of Duncansby, L.
Bradley, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carter of Coles, L.
Chandos, V.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Crawley, B. [Teller]
Darzi of Denham, L.
David, B.
Davies of Oldham, L.
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Donoughue, L.
Drayson, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Elder, L.
Elystan-Morgan, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Gale, B.
Gavron, L.
Golding, B.
Gould of Brookwood, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grocott, L. [Teller]
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Haworth, L.
Henig, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Howarth of Newport, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
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Jay of Paddington, B.
Jordan, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Lipsey, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
McKenzie of Luton, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Monson, L.
Morgan of Drefelin, B.
Morgan of Huyton, B.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Moser, L.
Ouseley, L.
Parekh, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Quin, B.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L.
Robertson of Port Ellen, L.
Rooker, L.
Rosser, L.
Rowlands, L.
Royall of Blaisdon, B.
Sawyer, L.
Sewel, L.
Simon, V.
Smith of Finsbury, L.
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Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Snape, L.
Soley, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Temple-Morris, L.
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Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Triesman, L.
Truscott, L.
Tunnicliffe, L.
Uddin, B.
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Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
West of Spithead, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
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UK Borders Bill
Division No. 2
Lord Avebury moved amendment 18, after clause 17, to insert the new clause Permission to work. The House divided:
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Contents
Addington, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Avebury, L.
Barker, B.
Best, L.
Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.
Boothroyd, B.
Chidgey, L.
Cotter, L.
Craigavon, V.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Dearing, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dykes, L.
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Erroll, E.
Falkland, V.
Goodhart, L.
Hamwee, B.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Kirkwood of Kirkhope, L.
Listowel, E. [Teller]
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Ripon and Leeds, Bp.
Roberts of Llandudno, L. [Teller]
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Roper, L.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Teverson, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomas of Winchester, B.
Tordoff, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Winchester, Bp.
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Not Contents
Adams of Craigielea, B.
Adonis, L.
Ahmed, L.
Anderson of Swansea, L.
Andrews, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B. (Lord President)
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bilston, L.
Bragg, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Christopher, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Crawley, B.
Darzi of Denham, L.
Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]
Donoughue, L.
Drayson, L.
Dubs, L.
Elder, L.
Elystan-Morgan, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
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Gale, B.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Golding, B.
Gould of Brookwood, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grocott, L. [Teller]
Harris of Haringey, L.
Hart of Chilton, L.
Haworth, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jones of Whitchurch, B.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McKenzie of Luton, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Morgan, L.
Morgan of Drefelin, B.
Moser, L.
Patel of Bradford, L.
Pendry, L.
Prosser, B.
Quin, B.
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Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rogan, L.
Rooker, L.
Rosser, L.
Royall of Blaisdon, B.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Simon, V.
Snape, L.
Soley, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Bolton, B.
Temple-Morris, L.
Tomlinson, L.
Triesman, L.
Tunnicliffe, L.
Turnberg, L.
Uddin, B.
Wall of New Barnet, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
West of Spithead, L.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.
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