House of Lords Journal 241 (Session 2007-08)


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Thursday 3 April 2008

The House met at 11.00am.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Hayman, B. (Lord Speaker)

Acton, L.
Adams of Craigielea, B.
Addington, L.
Afshar, B.
Ahmed, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L.
Arran, E.
Ashdown of Norton-sub-
Hamdon, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Best, L.
Bew, L.
Bhatia, L.
Billingham, B.
Bilston, L.
Birt, L.
Blood, B.
Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Boyd of Duncansby, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradley, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Bridges, L.
Broers, L.
Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Burnett, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butler-Sloss, B.
Byford, B.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carlisle, Bp.
Cathcart, E.
Chidgey, L.
Christopher, L.
Clark of Calton, B.
Clark of Windermere, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Colwyn, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Cotter, L.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Cunningham of Felling, L.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Mauley, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dear, L.
Dearing, L.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
D’Souza, B.
Dubs, L.
Dundee, E.
Dykes, L.
Eatwell, L.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Elystan-Morgan, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Falkner of Margravine, B.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Finlay of Llandaff, B.
Flather, B.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Foster of Bishop Auckland, L.
Fowler, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Gale, B.
Garden of Frognal, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geddes, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Gilbert, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Golding, B.
Goldsmith, L.
Goodhart, L.
Goodlad, L.
Goschen, V.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Greenfield, B.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L.
Grocott, L.
Hamilton of Epsom, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Hannay of Chiswick, L.
Hanningfield, L.
Harries of Pentregarth, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrison, L.
Haworth, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Healey, L.
Henig, B.
Henley, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Home, E.
Hooper, B.
Howard of Rising, L.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howarth of Newport, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Inge, L.
Inglewood, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
James of Blackheath, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jones, L.
Jones of Whitchurch, B.
Jopling, L.
Jordan, L.
Judd, L.

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Kilclooney, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinnock, L.
Kirkwood of Kirkhope, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Laird, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Lee of Trafford, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Livsey of Talgarth, L.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Low of Dalston, L.
Luke, L.
Macaulay of Bragar, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McKenzie of Luton, L.
Maclennan of Rogart, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Maginnis of Drumglass, L.
Malloch-Brown, L.
Mancroft, L.
Marland, L.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mawhinney, L.
Mawson, L.
Maxton, L.
May of Oxford, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montrose, D.
Morgan, L.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Bolton, B.
Morris of Handsworth, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Murphy, B.
Naseby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Noakes, B.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Northover, B.
Norton of Louth, L.
O’Cathain, B.
O’Neill of Bengarve, B.
O’Neill of Clackmannan, L.
Ouseley, L.
Oxburgh, L.
Palmer, L.
Parekh, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Patten, L.
Pendry, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Peston, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plumb, L.
Portsmouth, Bp.
Powell of Bayswater, L.
Prosser, B.
Prys-Davies, L.
Quin, B.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Ramsbotham, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees of Ludlow, L.
Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.
Rennard, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Richard, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Roberts of Llandudno, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rooker, L.
Roper, L.
Rosser, L.
Rowlands, L.
Royall of Blaisdon, B.
Russell-Johnston, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
St John of Fawsley, L.
Sanderson of Bowden, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Sewel, L.
Sharples, B.
Sheikh, L.
Sheldon, L.
Shephard of Northwold, B.
Shrewsbury, E.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon, V.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Finsbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soley, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Stern, B.
Stevens of Kirkwhelpington, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Bolton, B.
Taylor of Holbeach, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tonge, B.
Tope, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trenchard, V.
Trimble, L.
Trumpington, B.
Truscott, L.
Tunnicliffe, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Tyler, L.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Vadera, B.
Verma, B.
Vincent of Coleshill, L.
Waddington, L.
Wakeham, L.
Wall of New Barnet, B.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warsi, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
West of Spithead, L.
Whitaker, B.
Whitty, L.
Wilcox, B.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Winchester, Bp.
Windlesham, L.
Winston, L.
Woolf, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.

Prayers were read by the Lord Bishop of Carlisle.

Public Business

1    Crossrail Bill The petition against the bill from Tesco Pension Trustees Limited (No. 43) was withdrawn.

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2    Elections: postal voting A question was asked by Lord Campbell of Alloway and answered by Lord Hunt of Kings Heath.

3    Police: neighbourhood policing A question was asked by Baroness Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde and answered by Lord West of Spithead.

4    Health: inequalities A question was asked by Baroness Greengross and answered by Baroness Thornton.

5    Energy: nuclear reactors A question was asked by Lord De Mauley and answered by Baroness Vadera.

6    Procedure of the House The Chairman of Committees moved that the First Report from the Select Committee (HL Paper 63) be agreed to. After debate, the motion was agreed to.

7    HIV/AIDS (Balloted debate) Lord May of Oxford moved for papers relating to the trend in the incidence of HIV/AIDS. After debate, the motion was withdrawn.

8    Zimbabwe Lord Malloch-Brown repeated a ministerial statement made in the House of Commons.

9    Employment Bill [HL] The bill was reported from the Grand Committee with amendments. It was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 49)

10    Environment: Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty (Balloted debate) Lord Renton of Mount Harry moved for papers relating to the environmental importance of Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty. After debate, the motion was withdrawn.

11    Economy: Regulators (RC Report) Lord McIntosh of Haringey moved that this House takes note of the Report of the Select Committee on Regulators on UK Economic Regulators (First Report, Session 2006-07, HL Paper 189). After debate, the motion was agreed to.

The House adjourned at 6.41pm until 2.30pm on Monday 21 April, except for Judicial Business.

Grand Committee Business

The Grand Committee met in the Moses Room at 12.00 noon.

Employment Bill [HL] The Grand Committee further considered the bill, beginning with the question that clause 17 be agreed to. Amendments were agreed to. It was ordered that the bill be reprinted with amendments.

The Committee adjourned at 1.46pm.

Papers

All statutory instruments laid before the House are accompanied by an Explanatory Memorandum presented by command of Her Majesty, unless otherwise indicated.

Command Papers

The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty:

1    Health—Pharmacy in England: Building on strengths - delivering the future: Government proposals.     (7341)

2    Marine Bill, Draft—Draft Marine Bill.     (7351)

3    Broadcasting—A Scheme Agreement between the Department for Culture, Media and Sport and the BBC on the Digital Switchover Help Scheme.     (7356)

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Affirmative Instrument

The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by resolution:

Draft Building Societies (Financial Assistance) Order 2008, laid under the Banking (Special Provisions) Act 2008.

Negative Instruments

The following instruments were laid before the House:

1    Plastic Materials and Articles in Contact with Food (England) Regulations 2008, laid under the Food Safety Act 1990.     (916)

2    Blood Tests (Evidence of Paternity) (Amendment) Regulations 2008, laid under the Family Law Reform Act 1969.     (972)

3    Court Funds (Amendment) Rules (Northern Ireland) 2008, laid under the Judicature (Northern Ireland) Act 1978.     (SR156)

Judicial Business

1    Olafsson (Respondent) v Gissurarson (Petitioner) The petition of Hannes Holmsteinn Gissurarson praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

2    Mayor and Burgesses of the London Borough of Lewisham (Appellants) v Malcolm (Respondent) The petition of Sebastian Kornhauser praying for leave to intervene in the said appeal without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

3    In re B (children) (FC) The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

4    Knowsley Housing Trust (Respondents) v White (FC) (Appellant)

5    Ansell (also known as Marley) (FC) (Appellant) v London and Quadrant Housing Trust (Respondents)

The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 16 May (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

6    Appeal Committee The following Order was made pursuant to the 35th Report:

In re BW (AP) (Petitioner) (Northern Ireland) That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(c); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

7    Appeal Committee The 46th Report from the Appeal Committee was made; the Appeal Committee reported that they had met and had heard Counsel; the report was agreed to and the following Order was made:

Bank of Nova Scotia and others (Respondents) and others v Koo Golden East Mongolia (a body corporate) (Petitioners) That leave to appeal be refused; and that the petitioners do pay to the respondents the costs of the petition, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

8    Appeal Committee The 47th Report from the Appeal Committee was made; the Appeal Committee reported that they had met and had heard Counsel; the report was agreed to and the following Orders were made:

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Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (Petitioners) v Loyalty Management UK Limited (Respondents) That leave to appeal be given in order to facilitate a reference to the European Court of Justice; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 17 April.

Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (Respondents) v Total UK Limited (Petitioners) That leave to appeal be refused; and that the petitioners do pay to the respondents the costs of the petition, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Baxi Group Limited (Respondents) v Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (Petitioners) That leave to appeal be given in order to facilitate a reference to the European Court of Justice; and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 17 April.

9    Appeal Committee The 48th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Order was made:

Mayor and Burgesses of the London Borough of Lewisham (Appellants) v Malcolm (Respondent) That the petition of the Equality and Human Rights Commission that they might be heard or otherwise intervene in the said appeal be allowed.