House of Lords Journal 241 (Session 2007-08)

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Thursday 26 June 2008

The House met at 11.00am.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Hayman, B. (Lord Speaker)

Acton, L.
Adams of Craigielea, B.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Andrews, B.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L.
Arran, E.
Ashdown of Norton-sub-
Hamdon, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Best, L.
Bew, L.
Bhatia, L.
Billingham, B.
Bilston, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blaker, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bottomley of Nettlestone, B.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Bramall, L.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Broers, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Burnett, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butler of Brockwell, L.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carlile of Berriew, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter of Coles, L.
Cathcart, E.
Chandos, V.
Chester, Bp.
Chidgey, L.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clark of Windermere, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Cotter, L.
Courtown, E.
Coussins, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crickhowell, L.
Crisp, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Cunningham of Felling, L.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Mauley, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dear, L.
Dearing, L.
Deech, B.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
D’Souza, B.
Dubs, L.
Dundee, E.
Dykes, L.
Eames, L.
Eatwell, L.
Elder, L.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Elystan-Morgan, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Exeter, Bp.
Falkland, V.
Falkner of Margravine, B.

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Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Finlay of Llandaff, B.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Foster of Bishop Auckland, L.
Fowler, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gale, B.
Garden of Frognal, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geddes, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Giddens, L.
Gilbert, L.
Glasgow, E.
Glentoran, L.
Golding, B.
Goldsmith, L.
Goodhart, L.
Goodlad, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Greaves, L.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Griffiths of Burry Port, L.
Grocott, L.
Hameed, L.
Hamilton of Epsom, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Hanningfield, L.
Harries of Pentregarth, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Hart of Chilton, L.
Haskel, L.
Hastings of Scarisbrick, L.
Haworth, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howard of Rising, L.
Howarth of Newport, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Chesterton, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hylton, L.
Inge, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
James of Blackheath, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Joffe, L.
Jones of Birmingham, L.
Jones of Cheltenham, L.
Jones of Whitchurch, B.
Jopling, L.
Jordan, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kerr of Kinlochard, L.
Kilclooney, L.
Kimball, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinnock, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Krebs, L.
Laing of Dunphail, L.
Laird, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Layard, L.
Lee of Trafford, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, Bp.
Livsey of Talgarth, L.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Low of Dalston, L.
Lucas, L.
Luce, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
Lyell of Markyate, L.
McAlpine of West Green, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McKenzie of Luton, L.
MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
Maclennan of Rogart, L.
McNally, L.
Maginnis of Drumglass, L.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marland, L.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mawson, L.
Maxton, L.
May of Oxford, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montrose, D.
Moonie, L.
Moran, L.
Morgan of Drefelin, B.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Bolton, B.
Morris of Handsworth, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Morris of Yardley, B.
Morrow, L.
Moynihan, L.
Murphy, B.
Naseby, L.
Neill of Bladen, L.
Neuberger, B.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Northbourne, L.
Northesk, E.
Northover, B.
Norton of Louth, L.
O’Cathain, B.
O’Neill of Clackmannan, L.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Ouseley, L.
Palmer, L.
Parekh, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Patten, L.
Patten of Barnes, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Pendry, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Peston, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plumb, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Portsmouth, Bp.
Powell of Bayswater, L.
Prosser, B.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quin, B.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Ramsbotham, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees of Ludlow, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Roberts of Llandudno, L.
Robertson of Port Ellen, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogan, L.
Rooker, L.
Roper, L.
Rosser, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rowlands, L.
Royall of Blaisdon, B.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St John of Fawsley, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selsdon, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Sheldon, L.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon, V.

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Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Finsbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Snape, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stern, B.
Stewartby, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Holbeach, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Tenby, V.
Teverson, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomas of Winchester, B.
Thornton, B.
Tonge, B.
Tope, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trenchard, V.
Trimble, L.
Trumpington, B.
Truscott, L.
Tunnicliffe, L.
Turnberg, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Turner of Ecchinswell, L.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Valentine, B.
Verma, B.
Wall of New Barnet, B.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walmsley, B.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Warsi, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Waverley, V.
West of Spithead, L.
Whitaker, B.
Wilcox, B.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Windlesham, L.
Woolf, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young of Norwood Green, L.

Prayers were read by the Lord Bishop of Exeter.

1    Barony of Hamilton of Dalzell in the Peerage of the United Kingdom The Lord Chancellor reported that Gavin Goulburn Hamilton had established his succession to the Barony of Hamilton of Dalzell in the Peerage of the United Kingdom. The Clerk of the Parliaments was accordingly directed to enter Lord Hamilton of Dalzell on the register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing Order 10(5).

Public Business

2    Agriculture: bluetongue A question was asked by Lord Livsey of Talgarth and answered by Lord Rooker.

3    Food Standards Agency A question was asked by the Countess of Mar and answered by Baroness Thornton.

4    Economy: Office for Economic Cooperation and Development report A question was asked by Lord Roberts of Conwy and answered by Lord Davies of Oldham.

5    Surveillance cameras A question was asked by Lord Geddes and answered by Lord Bassam of Brighton.

6    Planning Bill A bill to establish the Infrastructure Planning Commission and make provision about its functions; to make provision about, and about matters ancillary to, the authorisation of projects for the development of nationally significant infrastructure; to make provision about town and country planning; to make provision about the imposition of a Community Infrastructure Levy; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons. It was read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 69)

7    Planning Bill The Explanatory Notes on the bill were ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 69-EN)

8    Business of the House The Lord President (Baroness Ashton of Upholland) moved that the debate on the motion in the name of Lord Luce set down for today shall be limited to 3 hours and that in the name of Lord Ramsbotham to 2½ hours. The motion was agreed to.

9    National Minimum Wage Regulations 1999 (Amendment) Regulations 2008

Cancellation of Contracts made in a Consumer’s Home or Place of Work etc. Regulations 2008

Companies (Reduction of Share Capital) Order 2008

Small Limited Liability Partnerships (Accounts) Regulations 2008

Large and Medium-sized Limited Liability Partnerships (Accounts) Regulations 2008

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Limited Liability Partnerships (Accounts and Audit) (Application of Companies Act 2006) Regulations 2008

Producer Responsibility Obligations (Packaging Waste) (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 2008

London Waste and Recycling Board Order 2008

The Lord President (Baroness Ashton of Upholland) moved that the draft statutory instruments be referred to a Grand Committee en bloc. The motion was agreed to.

10    Higher education (3-hour debate) Lord Luce moved for papers relating to the future direction of higher education. After debate, the motion was withdrawn.

11    Equality Bill Baroness Andrews repeated a ministerial statement made in the House of Commons.

12    Criminal justice: witness anonymity Lord Hunt of Kings Heath repeated a ministerial statement made in the House of Commons.

13    Prisons (2½-hour debate) Lord Ramsbotham moved for papers relating to the case for a Royal Commission on the state of prisons. After debate, the motion was withdrawn.

14    Crossrail Bill The bill was reported from the Grand Committee with amendments. The bill, as amended, was ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 70)

15    Powers of Entry etc. Bill [HL] The bill was considered in Committee. Amendments were agreed to. The bill was reported with amendments. The bill, as amended, was ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 71)

The House adjourned at 6.59pm until 2.30pm on Monday 30 June.

Grand Committee Business

The Grand Committee met in the Moses Room at 3.45pm.

Crossrail Bill The Grand Committee considered the bill on re-commitment. Amendments were agreed to. Clauses were disagreed to. It was ordered that the bill be reported with amendments.

The Committee adjourned at 4.47pm.


All statutory instruments laid before the House are accompanied by an Explanatory Memorandum presented by command of Her Majesty, unless otherwise indicated.

Command Papers

The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty:

1    Equality Bill—Report of the Government Equalities Office on the proposed Equality Bill.     (7431)

2    Debt—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Jordan concerning the Early Repayment of Certain Debt Obligations of Jordan.     (7433)

3    Departmental Performance—

      (1)    Report and Accounts for 2007-08 of the Office of Rail Regulation.     (—)

      (2)    Report and Accounts for 2007-08 of the Chief Constable of the Police Service for Northern Ireland.     (—)

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4    Contingent Liability—Minute of the Department for Children, School and Families concerning a contingent liability arising out of a school within a PFI contract becoming an Academy.     (—)

Legislative Reform Order

The following second-stage draft super-affirmative order was laid before the House under the Legislative and Regulatory Reform Act 2006 and referred to the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee:

Draft Legislative Reform (Local Authority Consent Requirements) (England and Wales) Order 2008, laid under the Legislative and Regulatory Reform Act 2006.

Negative Instruments

The following instruments were laid before the House:

1    Education (Student Support) (No. 2) Regulations 2008, laid under the Teaching and Higher Education Act 1998.     (1582)

2    (1)    Education (Assisted Places) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2008     (1593)

      (2)    Education (Assisted Places) (Incidental Expenses) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2008         (1594)

laid under the Education (Schools) Act 1997.

3    Home Loss Payments (Prescribed Amounts) (England) Regulations 2008, laid under the Land Compensation Act 1973.     (1598)

4    Social Security (Students and Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2008, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992.     (1599)

5    Coroners (Amendment) Rules 2008, laid under the Coroners Act 1988.     (1652)

6    Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007 (Commencement No. 5 and Transitional Provisions) Order 2008, laid under the Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007.     (1653)

7    Magnetic Toys (Safety) Regulations 2008, laid under the Consumer Protection Act 1987.     (1654)

Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings

The following papers were laid before the House:

1    Accounts for 2007-08 of the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Government Trading Funds Act 1973.

2    Accounts relating to issues from the National Loans Fund 2005-06, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under various Acts.

3    Accounts for 2007-08 of the Health Protection Agency, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Health Protection Agency Act 2004.

4    Accounts for 2007-08 of the Office of Communications Licence Fees and Penalties, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Communications Act 2003.

5    Report for 2007-08 on the Operation of the Industrial Development Act 1982, laid under that Act.

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6    Report and Accounts for 2007-08 of Ofcom, laid under the Office of Communications Act 2002.

7    Report for 2007-08 of Ofwat (The Water Services Regulation Authority), laid under the Water Industry Act 1991.

8    Report and Accounts for 2007-08 of the Health and Safety Commission and the Health and Safety Executive, laid under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974.

9    Report for 2007-08 of the Appointed Person for England and Wales and Northern Ireland, concerning the exercise of powers under the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002, laid under that Act.

10    Report of Criminal Justice Inspection Northern Ireland on an inspection of Community Restorative Justice Northern Ireland, laid under the Justice (Northern Ireland) Act 2002.

Judicial Business

1    R (on the application of Black) (Respondent) v Secretary of State for Justice (Appellant) (England) The appeal of the Secretary of State for Justice was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 6 October (lodged 25 June).

2    Appeal Committee The 87th    Report from the Appeal Committee was made; the Appeal Committee reported that they had met and had heard Counsel; the report was agreed to and the following Order was made:

Masri (Respondent) v Consolidated Contractors International (UK) Limited and others (Appellants) That the petition that the appeal be dismissed failing certain conditions be allowed; that by 4pm on Friday 11 July the appellants do pay or cause to be paid into an account nominated by the respondent the sum of US$57,315,114.98, the details of the said account to be notified to the appellants by 4pm on Tuesday 1 July; that by 4pm on Friday 11 July the appellants do pay or cause to be paid into an account in the joint names of the parties’ agents the sum of US$6,332,978.89 or provide for that sum to be secured by guarantee of a first-class bank as further security for costs; and that in the event that the above conditions are not complied with the appeal be struck out and the appellants do pay or cause to be paid to the respondent his costs of the appeal to this House, the amount of such costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.