Examination of Witnesses (Questions 3340
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3340. Those within the 30 metres settlement
contour by definition will be?
(Mr Berryman) Certainly.
3341. The next point is the House of Commons
report, perhaps we ought to see what the House of Commons said
in their Special Report about this. I want to be clear on the
information that the House of Commons had in front of them when
they reported as they did so that your Lordships are able to have
that point in context. This is from the Special Report. It is
page 26.[36]
They report that they heard a great deal of evidence about listed
buildings in the Princelet Street area and asked the Promoter
to come back to the Committee to demonstrate clearly that an individual
assessment was to be made at each listed and historic building
in the area and that appropriate mitigation be put in place. They
say they are happy to report that the Promoter has done a considerable
amount of work to ensure that the settlement impacts of the works
on all buildings, including listed and historic buildings, have
been adequately assessed and appropriate mitigation put in place.
The Promoters confirm that settlement assessment reports have
been produced. They have considered every individual structure
within the predicted zone of influence along the route. The results
of this assessment process are reported in one of two ways, both
of which are described below. Then there is a description of the
work done in relation to listed buildings and then in paragraph
107, the position as regards all other buildings. If one turns
to glance at 108 and 109, there is a reference to monitoring requirements
which the Committee asked us to undertake in relation to Spitalfields
and we agreed to do that. Mr Berryman, just so we are clear, what
were the assessment reports that were before the House of Commons
Committee and against the background of which they expressed their
conclusions as we have seen in this document?
(Mr Berryman) To the best of my recollection,
they were the reports that have been before your Lordships today.
3342. To put it another way, has the assessment
process progressed, in regards to listed building, beyond the
Phase 3 stage?
(Mr Berryman) Not yet.
3343. We have seen that these are Phase 3 assessment
reports?
(Mr Berryman) Yes.
3344. CHAIRMAN: Mr Mould, I have forgotten
for the moment, what is the situation about buildings which are
not listed but are within a conservation area?
3345. MR MOULD: They are dealt with as
is set out in paragraph 107 of the report. That is to say they
are subject to substantially the same process of assessment but
the presentation of the results is rather different. They are
not the subject of individual reports in the way that your Lordships
have seen for listed buildings, they are dealt with in generic
assessment reports and the results are presented graphically,
but the substance of the assessment process is the same.
3346. CHAIRMAN: Thank you.
3347. MR MOULD: That was made clear to
the House of Commons. Thank you very much.
3348. LORD BROOKE: Do you accept that
you did miss some buildings?
(Mr Berryman) It is possible that we have missed some, my
Lord. Obviously when we get into the stage of doing the detailed
assessment we will not miss any of them. We may have assumed in
some cases that buildings which were described by Petitioners
as separate we have assumed they were part of the adjacent building
and we may have been remiss in that.
3349. MR MOULD: I want to be clear about
that. Mr Wheeler showed us some photographs of what I think might
broadly be described as rear extensions of buildings within Wilkes
Street.
(Mr Berryman) Yes.
3350. The question would be, I suppose, whether
those are separate buildings. I do not think they are identified
separately by address, they form part of the main structure, as
I understand it.
3351. CHAIRMAN: I think you will find
they are all listed because they are within the curtilage of a
listed building.
3352. MR MOULD: Exactly, my Lord, very
much that is the point. My Lord, I think that is all I wanted
to ask Mr Berryman to deal with now. As I said to you, I am going
to come back to some more detailed matters tomorrow when we have
Professor Mair but, of course, if there are any other points which
the Committee would wish to ask now, then we are in your hands.
3353. CHAIRMAN: Well, I hope they do
not because, Ms Wheeler, you have got Ms Adams here, have you
not?
3354. MR WHEELER: Yes.
3355. CHAIRMAN: Mr Adams has got a proof
of evidence of two pages and I dare say Mr Adams would like to
deliver that now. Would that be convenient?
3356. MR WHEELER: Yes.
3357. CHAIRMAN: I do not want to insist
upon this, I just thought it would be convenient.
3358. MR WHEELER: I would be very keen
to do what is convenient for one of my neighbours. Does that mean
I come back later on?
3359. CHAIRMAN: You will be coming back
again, I am sure.
36 House of Commons Select Committee on the Crossrail
Bill, First Special Report of Session 2006-07, Crossrail Bill,
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