Examination of Witnesses (Questions 4860
4860. MR ELVIN: Which is where the bus
collected us on the site visit if you remember.
4861. BARONESS FOOKES: I remember, but
it was very tight around there.
(Mr Berryman) Around there is very tight, that corner is
very tight (Indicating). This corner is okay, and this corner
is okay for vehicles turning right (Indicating). It is not brilliant
for vehicles turning left.
4862. Roadworks will have to be done to improve
(Mr Berryman) Re-alignment of kerbs will be needed on that
4863. BARONESS FOOKES: That will be done
(Mr Berryman) By us, my Lady, by Crossrail.
4864. MR ELVIN: That will be under the
procedures with the highway authority.
4865. LORD BROOKE OF ALVERTHORPE: I was
surprised, Mr Berryman, I think I observed it when I was with
you, that the fencing around the play areas in some of the schools
was rather low. Whilst we are all concerned about children coming
to school and leaving the school, if they are playing in the playground
and a ball goes bouncing over the top of the fence it could go
into a road. I suspect you are probably more likely to run into
risk outside of those principal hours rather than in them and
I am wondering whether you have entered into discussions with
the schools about raising the fences?
(Mr Berryman) My Lord, I went back and had a look at that.
You raised that on the site visit.
(Mr Berryman) The schools all have high fences around them.
4867. LORD BROOKE OF ALVERTHORPE: It
was the council one.
(Mr Berryman) It is a council playground and we are, of course,
in detailed discussion with the council on matters of that sort.
4868. MR ELVIN: That is a matter the
council is alive to presumably, Mr Berryman?
(Mr Berryman) It is indeed.
4869. MR ELVIN: Just so we have it absolutely
clear, is this a route map which has already been looked at by
the London Borough Tower Hamlets, both in general terms and as
a highway authority?
(Mr Berryman) Yes, it is, very much so, and in the case of
this circular route round here it was virtually on their insistence
this was the route that was chosen (Indicating). Our original
idea was slightly different to theirs but they were adamant this
was what they wanted.
4870. CHAIRMAN: Is this something that
the local liaison group has contributed to at all?
(Mr Berryman) My Lord, I am afraid the local liaison group
has not contributed very much to anything.
4871. That is why I asked you.
(Mr Berryman) This is exactly the sort of thing we wanted
them to contribute to.
4872. CHAIRMAN: That is exactly why I
asked you. They have not contributed so far at all?
(Mr Berryman) Not yet, my Lord, no.
4873. BARONESS FOOKES: Mr Berryman, what
were the reasons the council gave for not wanting your original
route and this represents a route, as I understand it, that they
prefer, is that right?
(Mr Berryman) Yes, that is the route the Council wanted.
4874. Do we know why as opposed to your original
(Mr Berryman) They had a preference for a one-way route rather
than a route which involved vehicles doubling back. This section
of road here is very, very narrow, so our original route was lorries
coming in this way and going out that way and along there and
turning right there (Indicating). They felt it would be better
that lorries came that way simply because it would
4875. BARONESS FOOKES: Totally one-way.
(Mr Berryman) It would be a one-way system.
4876. LORD YOUNG OF NORWOOD GREEN: Doubling
(Mr Berryman) That is correct.
4877. LORD YOUNG OF NORWOOD GREEN: I
think they are right
4878. MR ELVIN: It has certainly been
a route we have been asked to do for a long time. It has not changed
since the Environmental Statement. This is the one of the volume
eights showing the transport assessment showing exactly the same
route. It has certainly been in place for over three years, has
it not, Mr Berryman?
(Mr Berryman) It is been in place for a very long time, since
we first started talking about where the shaft should be with
the local authority. I think it is five or six years at least.
4879. LORD YOUNG OF NORWOOD GREEN: It
does minimise the movement past any given point. (Mr Berryman)
That is correct.