Select Committee on the Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 5840 - 5859)

  5840. CHAIRMAN: All the things that are underlined are the propositions that you have put to the Promoters in 2006?

  5841. MS JONES: That is correct.

  5842. BARONESS FOOKES: It is effectively two sets of amendments, the 2006 ones and ones you have done over the lunch hour?

  5843. MS JONES: That is absolutely right, to deal with various issues which have popped up since and which normally you would think of in the course of dealing with anything.

  5844. CHAIRMAN: Where we have on, for instance, the fifth page the whole collection of lines crossed out, that is your crossing out in 2006, is it?

  5845. MS JONES: Forgive me, which cross is that?

  5846. CHAIRMAN: None of these things are ever numbered, 2.13 I think it is.

  5847. MS JONES: 2.13, that is right. That is a track change and that was from 2006.

  5848. CHAIRMAN: You crossed all these things out?

  5849. MS JONES: Correct.

  5850. CHAIRMAN: Then I go on a bit, I get to page four "Costs" and "Schedule Defects" in 5 and the proviso in 5.2 has been taken out and that is a new proposition that you put forward today, is it?

  5851. MS JONES: That is correct and that is something which was arising out of what, I think, the Committee in the other place recommended.

  5852. CHAIRMAN: I think we have got the system in our heads and I must invite the Promoters to say what they think we ought to do about this. Mr Mould?

  5853. MR MOULD: Yes.

  5854. CHAIRMAN: Could I just start off by saying presumably if these changes are made for Ms Jones they have got to be made for all the people who either have or are going to enter into Deeds of Settlement?

  5855. MR MOULD: That is right. We are at the stage at present where we have what I think I called last week "a specimen" or "a template deed". If we were to make changes to that template in response to Ms Jones's suggestions, plainly we would have to re-issue the Deed in that revised form, no doubt as a partial re-issue of the Information Paper D12, which you have, and one can well imagine other interested parties, petitioners or perhaps those who have hitherto not petitioned because they are content with the Deed in the form it is at the present time would want to have look at it and may want to say something about it.

  5856. CHAIRMAN: Have a number of people already entered into these Deeds of Settlement?

  5857. MR MOULD: I will have to take instructions on that, if I may (Mr Mould took instructions). The position is this: we have not entered into any Settlement Deeds as such at this stage. What we have done is to have entered into a number of contractual undertakings with property owners in which we have agreed that we shall enter into a Deed with them in terms that are not less advantageous than the terms set out in the template deed that you have in front of you.

  5858. CHAIRMAN: Not more advantageous either?

  5859. MR MOULD: That does not necessarily follow because it may be in due time that matters arise with further protective provisions that we agree that particular party should have. I do not say that is necessarily the case, but the purpose of saying not less advantageous is that they have that measure of protection that they will at least have the advantage which the current form of the Deed offers them.



 
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