Examination of Witnesses (Questions 7040
7040. And you have no figures at all to show
what the improvements would be.
(Mr Donovan) Post-2016 we could not get
a comparison between those two.
7041. You have no figures?
(Mr Donovan) Not beyond 2016.
7042. Up to 2016?
(Mr Donovan) We have the figures in the
way I was explaining it. We have the growth we anticipate getting
but we have not tied that specifically to the public transport
improvements we have been talking about because at the moment
we have not got anybody coming forward to us and offering us the
details of those public transport improvements, so we cannot say
if we have the north Bexley transit we will generate this amount
more than we would generate anyway. We are not able to say that.
7043. MR CAMERON: My Lord, it is always
a mistake to try and give evidence as an advocate but there may
be something that I can assist with that I have just been handed.
7044. CHAIRMAN: It is actually coffee
time anyway so you might be able to think about this for a quarter
of an hour to see whether, between you, you can come up with something
7045. MR CAMERON: We will do that. Thank
you, my Lord.
7046. CHAIRMAN: We will adjourn until
a quarter to 12.
After a short break
7047. CHAIRMAN: Are we ready?
7048. MR CAMERON: We can provide some
assistance on the question which has been raised, but it is not
a precise answer to the point.
7049. CHAIRMAN: I do not expect it to
be a precise answer, but I expect it to be some sort of comparator.
7050. MR CAMERON: My Lord, what we can
do is to compare the anticipated jobs figure in the London Plan
now compared to the London Plan which preceded it because the
London Plan that preceded it assumed a Crossrail line all the
way to Ebbsfleet, whereas now it assumes a line to Abbey Wood
and, therefore, it allows a comparison. What I would like to do
is to invite your Lordships to go to page 36, which is the previous
London Plan, where you have got a figure for anticipated jobs
in a specific opportunity area which is Belvedere/Erith and then
I am going to put on this screen an extract from the current London
Plan, and that shows anticipated jobs in a wider area which is
Bexley Riverside, and that is 1,386 hectares.34,35
The previous area of Belvedere/Erith forms part of that 1,386
at 242 and, if I can just turn over the page, that explains what
Bexley Riverside is, that it includes Belvedere, Erith, Slade
Green and Crayford, so that is the area considered. If I now turn
back to the table, the figure for that combined area of the indicative
employment capacity is 4,900 jobs, whereas for the smaller area
of 242 hectares, when Crossrail was anticipated to go to Ebbsfleet,
it was 5,000 jobs. That does not allow a direct comparison to
be made, but it can be seen that the anticipated number of jobs
7051. CHAIRMAN: So where do we put these
new figures in on page 36?
7052. MR CAMERON: My Lord, one would
have to have a different row with Bexley Riverside including Belvedere/Erith.
The `area in hectares' would be 1,386, `jobs' 4,900, and the `new
homes' is of less assistance because it is a wider and different
area. If you just need a new row, it can be easily put in above.
7053. CHAIRMAN: That takes account of
all the other heavy rail routes?
7054. MR CAMERON: That takes account
of everything which is known at the time of the preparation of
the up-to-date London Plan which has only just been adopted to
replace the previous London Plan.
7055. CHAIRMAN: Well, it must take account
of all the other heavy rail routes, must it not?
7056. MR CAMERON: Yes, it must do, my
Lord, and any other schemes which are known to the Mayor at the
time he prepared his Plan.
7057. CHAIRMAN: Would you like to produce
a page 36(a)?
7058. MR CAMERON: My Lord, yes.
7059. BARONESS FOOKES: Perhaps, in that
case, it could compare two areas which are precisely similar because
we have a smaller area juxtaposed to a larger area?
33 34 Committee Ref: A35, Planning & Regeneration
Policy Framework 8: Previous London Plan (BEXYLB-44_05A-036) Back
35 Committee Ref: A35, Table 5D.1 Opportunity Areas and Areas
for Intensification in South East London (SCN-20080401-001 and