Select Committee on the Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 7740 - 7759)

  7740. That the rails of the new railway will be ground smooth prior to the opening of the railway—D10, 2.11.

  7741. That the gradual deterioration in rail and wheel condition will be limited to control any consequent worsening of groundborne noise and vibration—D10 paragraphs 2.10 and 2.11.

  7742. That the key input assumption of the combined condition (or "roughness") of the wheels and rails will not exceed that which has been, and will continue to be, assumed in the modelling, by way of imposing a specification on the operator of the railway—D10, 2.10.

  7743. To include recognition that the local authorities apply different policies to those proposed by the Promoter—D10, 2.13.

  7744. That the nominated undertaker will use "reasonable endeavours" to adopt mitigation measures that will further reduce any adverse environmental impacts caused by Crossrail insofar as these mitigation measures do not add unreasonable costs to the project or unreasonable delays to the construction programme—D10, 2.14.

  7745. On completion of the track design, where the nominated undertaker predicts that it would exceed the local authorities' preferred standard of 35dB LAmax, S at any dwelling, then the nominated undertaker will provide additional information to the local authorities explaining its position, and will take into account the local authorities' comments—D10, 2.13 and 4.2.

  7746. The definition of an adverse groundborne noise impact is specific in the context of this project. According to the Promoter's assessment criteria an adverse impact will not occur if the groundborne noise levels are below 35dB LAmax, S. The Promoter has declared that following the incorporation of the additional mitigation as instructed by the House of Commons Select Committee, there are no adverse groundborne noise impacts expected at residential dwellings across the tunnelled section of the route.

  7747. The contents of the Environmental Minimum Requirements: General Principles paper, which have been agreed by the Promoter and the Local Planning Authorities, has assisted us greatly in achieving agreement to IP D10 Version 3. The relevant passage from the EMRs General Principles paper can be found at paragraph 1.5 and requires the nominated undertaker to use reasonable endeavours to adopt mitigation measures that will further reduce any adverse environmental impacts caused by Crossrail, insofar as these mitigation measures do not add unreasonable costs to the project or unreasonable delays to the construction programme.

  7748. Of note is that the commitment in paragraph 1.5 stands "apart" from the controls and obligations in the EMRs that specifically require that impacts which have been assessed in the 2005 Environmental Statement will not be exceeded. In our view the provisions of paragraph 1.5 should be seen in the context of the most recent predictions undertaken by the Promoter (i.e. post-Environmental Statement), the results of which conclude the existence of no adverse impacts. By this the Petitioners seek to put on public record that with no adverse impacts currently envisaged by the Promoter the local authorities are expecting that the application of reasonable endeavours would ensure that groundborne noise levels inside dwellings fall below 35dB LAmax, S.

  7749. This series of commitments and observations has enabled agreement on the principles of IP D10 Version 3, but as explained previously not to the maximum permissible limit for residential dwellings which remains presented in Table 1 of that document, and which the Promoter does not alter despite no cost burden apparent to the project in doing so. This is a fundamental point for local authorities to put on record as it should not be regarded as any precedent for future railway schemes or other development where groundborne noise is a concern and where local authority policies need to remain intact to prevent challenge to their saved policies on groundborne noise.

  7750. I hope that your Lordships can appreciate the major obstacles around which Camden has had to negotiate in reaching an agreement on this matter.

  7751. CHAIRMAN: Do the Promoters have anything to say on this?

  7752. MR TAYLOR: My Lords, I do have a statement to make in response.

  7753. CHAIRMAN: Have you circulated it?

  7754. MR TAYLOR: I have not, I am afraid; I only have a handwritten note in front of me.

  7755. CHAIRMAN: Doubtless you will.

  7756. MR TAYLOR: I doubt if anybody else could read my writing; in fact I suspect I might have trouble myself.

  7757. We had understood that an agreed position in relation to groundborne noise and vibration had been reached with the London Borough of Camden and it was not until yesterday that we found that Camden would be continuing to make points to you this morning regarding the appropriateness of 35dB LAmax, S as a design noise criteria, and it is only right that I make clear the Promoter's position in relation to that issue.

  7758. This statement is to make it clear for the record that the Promoter continues to consider that a design noise criterion of 40dB LAmax, S affords an appropriate level of protection to the amenity within residential properties from noise from underground railways. Nothing in Information Paper D10 should be taken as indicating that the Promoter has changed its position in relation to that matter. IPD10 retains 40dB LAmax, S as the design noise criterion for the protection of residential properties in the design of the Crossrail project. The Promoter relies upon the fact that 40dB LAmax, S has been successfully used in the past as a design noise criterion in relation to a large number of underground railway schemes, including, for example, the Jubilee Line Extension. The Promoter is not aware of any complaints regarding groundborne noise associated with the Jubilee Line Extension from those occupying residential properties above it. The use, therefore, of 40dB as a design criterion has in fact protected the amenity of residential occupiers in that particular case.

  7759. The Promoter believes that the use of a 40dB LAmax, S criterion corresponds to a level of noise that is lower than the relevant thresholds in the guidelines for community noise published by the WHO. The Promoter does not believe that there is any published scientific evidence to suggest that the adoption of a 35dB LAmax, S criterion would produce any material improvement to the amenity of residential occupiers compared to the adoption of a 40dB LAmax, S criterion, and that is a point that was accepted by Mr Methold, who is the noise expert for the London Borough of Camden, in cross-examination before the House of Commons Select Committee, and you can see that in volume 2 of the Special Report at page EV302, paragraph 3061. The adoption of a design criterion of 35dB LAmax, S would, therefore, potentially impose additional cost on an underground railway project whilst not bringing about any material benefit to the living conditions of those living above it. In short, the Promoter considers that 40dB LAmax, S provides a design noise criterion that works and a design noise criterion that is cost-effective.



 
previous page contents next page

House of Lords home page Parliament home page House of Commons home page search page enquiries index

© Parliamentary copyright 2008