Examination of Witnesses (Questions 11560
- 11579)
11560. CHAIRMAN: We are not meant to
make these amendments, are we? We are?
11561. MR MOULD: That is the usual process.
11562. CHAIRMAN: We are?
11563. MR MOULD: Yes. Perhaps, whilst
you are reading that, could I explain there is already a process,
essentially a similar process, under Clauses 10 and 13 of the
Bill in relation to ordinary planning controls because, as your
Lordships will appreciate, the effects of Clause 10 is to grant
planning permission for the Crossrail scheme. Clause 13 provides
a similar power to the Secretary of State by order to provide
for the switching back on of ordinary planning consent following
completion of the Crossrail works so that any works of maintenance
or alteration which thereafter require a grant of planning permission,
that permission would need to be sought from the local planning
authority in the usual way. Effectively we have spotted an omission.
The same approach should apply in relation to the listed building
and other conservation area consents. The purpose of this Clause
is to make good that omission and ensure the same process applies
the across the board.
11564. CHAIRMAN: I have not been through
all the scheduled works in Schedule 6 where there are changes.
11565. MR MOULD: Shall I explain. That
is the second category of minor amendments that are before you.
I have just explained the first. The one I have just explained
is effectively the changes to Clause 16. If I can turn to the
other matters which are those that arise under Schedule 1, Schedule
3 and Schedule 5. What you have there is effectively a limited
number of amendments to correct minor errors in those schedules.
At the conclusion of the Select Committee proceedings in the other
place the Bill was re-printed to incorporate the several hundred
detailed amendments comprised in four additional provisions and
two papers of amendments which have been agreed to join the course
of the Bill passage through that Select Committee process. Since
then the Promoter picked up a few further corrections and those
are the corrections which are listed in the paper of amendments
which are before you, but I can assure the Committee that none
of the amendments alters any of the scheduled works or gives the
Promoter power to acquire or use any additional land. To give
an example, the first two amendments to Schedule 1 set out on
the sheets in front of you are consequential on the deletion of
a work, work 1/2 which was made in the first House, that is to
say the deletion of that work was carried out in the first House.
As the description of the termination point of works 1/3a and
b made reference to work number 1.2, a deleted work, clearly the
description needed to be adjusted to make good that error. The
other amendments include the deletion of lines 25 to 30 on page
93 of the Bill and that is to remove three streets in Newham from
the list of streets which may be temporarily stocked up as work
2/8 in the original Bill. The reason why that is important is
because that work was deleted in AP3 and several land parcels
are deleted as they no longer exist on the revised plans following
amendments made as part of the additional provisions.
11566. CHAIRMAN: This is the Schedule
3 one?
11567. MR MOULD: These are Schedule 1,
Schedule 3 and Schedule 5 changes, yes. They are very much minor
consequential amendments to reflect a change.
11568. CHAIRMAN: I am sure they are,
but in Schedule 3 page 79, 20 and 9(30) why are you leaving out
the London Borough of Tower Hamlets when it is not there in the
first place and is in the second place?
11569. MR MOULD: I think in relation
to that, line 20, column 1.
11570. CHAIRMAN: You are putting it in
there?
11571. MR MOULD: Yes, and in the other
reference we are leaving it out.
11572. CHAIRMAN: So as from line 20 onwards
down to when you come to Greenwich it is all in Tower Hamlets
and you do not need to say Tower Hamlets again in 30.
11573. MR MOULD: That is right, that
is the convention. You will see in the line in question, line
20, you will remember Fulbourne Street is in the immediate vicinity
of Whitechapel Station. It is the location for the new station.
11574. CHAIRMAN: Let me ask you one more
thing about the Schedule 5 amendment which is on page 98, line
4. I am afraid I do not see 258.
11575. MR MOULD: Column 2. Bear with
me a moment. No, I think I will have to own up to that and say
we are not quite sure. I think there must an incorrect reference
there so what I will do—
11576. CHAIRMAN: There must be, so it
is no use asking us to make a whole lot of amendments if there
is some doubt about their correctness.
11577. MR MOULD: You are be absolutely
right and, I suspect, there is a typographical error there and
what I will do is ask—
11578. CHAIRMAN: Would you like to go
back over this list again and just check everything once more?
11579. MR MOULD: By all means.
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