Examination of Witnesses (Questions 11840
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11840. At paragraph 3.1.3, "Under questioning,
CLRL have acknowledged their geological information in this area
is incomplete and that further investigations are needed. Nonetheless
it is a concern in terms of risk management that CLRL propose
at this stage to use a tunnelling machine type which might not
be able to handle this ground rather than making a conservative
choice. This decision may in turn have some bearing on their choice
of tunnelling strategy. This issue will not be satisfactorily
resolved. It is interesting that the Planning Inspector ... ",
and we have submitted the information on the Channel Tunnel Planning
Inspector's report, " ... deemed it necessary to note at
paragraph 10 that the construction arrangements have to be sufficiently
well defined to enable a proper assessment of their likely impact
to be made. Two factors are pointed out by the Planning Inspector
showing the NEWT principle to be defective. NEWT does not apply
where the undertaker of the project is obliged to adopt a variation
because of a change in the external circumstances of the project
beyond the control of London and Continental ... ."—
11841. CHAIRMAN: Ms Khela, let me try
and get this clear. You are reading from a document prepared by
a firm called Arup?
11842. MS KHELA: No.
11843. CHAIRMAN: What are you reading
from because we do not know?
11844. MS KHELA: I apologise, I assumed
it was on the board.
11845. LORD BROOKE OF ALVERTHORPE: We
cannot see the heading though where it comes from.
11846. MS KHELA: I am now referring to
the Channel Tunnel Rail Link Planning Inspector's report—
11847. MR ELVIN: I am sorry, Ms Khela.
My Lord, I have just been over to ask the same question and it
appears this is a list of undertakings which have been prepared
by the Association to put to your Lordships, so this is a document
we have not yet received.
11848. MS KHELA: I apologise, I hope
you have it now.
11849. MR ELVIN: I think the Committee
might need it, Ms Khela.
11850. MS KHELA: (Document handed to
Committee) Our major concern is the settlement deed provides for
material damage whereas the Channel Tunnel Rail Link provided
for any damage. We—
11851. CHAIRMAN: Is this what you are
asking us for?
11852. MS KHELA: No. I am still going—
11853. CHAIRMAN: We cannot give the undertakings.
Are you asking us to recommend these undertakings should be given?
11854. MS KHELA: We have paid £20
on the basis that as counsel is not doing that we have been told
the House of Lords Committee on the Channel Tunnel Rail Link did
ensure that the Promoters provide suitable undertakings for concerns
that petitioners raised.
11855. CHAIRMAN: Which ones do you want
us to recommend?
11856. MS KHELA: These are the main undertakings
we have requested but we have amended those on the basis of further
information which has been provided which is in the Additional
Undertakings, so we have added to that list on the basis of the
inadequacy we believe of the information which has been presented
in a sensitive area such as Spitalfields.
11857. MR ELVIN: Could we have a copy
of the ones—
11858. MS KHELA: You have already had
that. You had it in 2007.
11859. MR ELVIN: I am sorry, Ms Khela,
I am not trying to be difficult, I am just not psychic. If you
can identify it and we have it in the documents, fine, but I just
need to find it. That is all.
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