Select Committee on Intergovernmental Organisations Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 56 - 59)

MONDAY 18 FEBRUARY 2008

Professor Gill Walt, Dr Richard Coker and Professor Janet Hemingway

  Q56  Chairman: Good afternoon. Welcome to the Intergovernmental Organisations Select Committee. You will know, I am sure, that our primary interest is the effectiveness of British government policy working through intergovernmental organisations and their organisational strengths and weaknesses. This session is being held in public. You will have the opportunity to correct any factual matters in the transcript, which will be sent to you. It is also being sound recorded. At any stage after you have finished at this meeting, if you want to send in additional information to clarify or add to anything you have said, please feel free to do so. Finally, although we will put the questions to all three of you, any of you can respond. I recognise there are two separate schools here and you might well want to give your evidence separately. Professor Walt, I understand you are from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine; Dr Coker is also from the London School; Professor Hemingway is from the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine. One of the things that I have been interested in, which the Committee has been picking up and which is referred to in your evidence, is this issue of global surveillance capacity. The London School says it has improved in the past decade but also that there is a weak surveillance capacity and, of particular interest to me, a lack of integration between animal and human health. I wonder if you could tell us a little bit more about that, expand on what those improvements are and also what the weaknesses are.

  Dr Coker: I think the SARS crisis forced a re-think globally on global surveillance and was really, in a sense, a dry run for pandemic flu. What became clear through that was that surveillance around the world needed to be better collated, faster and different sources used, so not only full national surveillance programmes but also more informal systems of surveillance needed to be drawn upon. The reason we mentioned in our submission the lack of capacity and integration between health surveillance systems was when we were reflecting on pandemic flu preparedness, where there is a clear link between animal surveillance and human surveillance systems. If we look, for example, at Africa, where there has been a considerable amount of investment in the last couple of years in animal surveillance and poultry surveillance, surveillance for pandemic flu has not been strengthened to the same degree. That said, there are initiatives in Africa to try to bring together these different surveillance systems, but I think as an illustration of the parallel streams of surveillance that is not a bad example. I think that is replicated elsewhere in the developed world as well. If we want to have an early warning system that tells us about the potential for human pandemic, then we need to have a good animal surveillance system which is linked to human surveillance systems.

  Q57  Chairman: Is your main point that the key weakness is between animal and human health surveillance? Is that right?

  Dr Coker: It is the linkage between the two and the development of the two to different degrees.

  Q58  Chairman: To different degrees in what sense?

  Dr Coker: For example, the emphasis at the moment in Africa in poultry surveillance because of anxieties around avian flu but there is a lack of capacity development for human pandemic flu in Africa.

  Q59  Chairman: Where do you think the weakness of that part of the surveillance could be improved? Which organisation would be most well-placed to look at improving that surveillance?

  Dr Coker: In a sense it falls between two international agencies, WHO and FAO, and that may be the reason why there has been this somewhat parallel system developed.


 
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