House of Lords Journal 240 (Session 2006-07)


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Thursday 1 March 2007

The House met at 11.00am

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Hayman, B. (Lord Speaker)

Adams of Craigielea, B.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anderson of Swansea, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Best, L.
Bhatia, L.
Biffen, L.
Billingham, B.
Bilston, L.
Birt, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Blood, B.
Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bottomley of Nettlestone, B.
Bowness, L.
Boyd of Duncansby, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Bramall, L.
Brennan, L.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce-Lockhart, L.
Burnett, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butler of Brockwell, L.
Byford, B.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Chelmsford, Bp.
Chester, Bp.
Chidgey, L.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clark of Windermere, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Colwyn, L.
Condon, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Corston, B.
Cotter, L.
Courtown, E.
Coventry, Bp.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crawley, B.
Crisp, L.
Cunningham of Felling, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Mauley, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dear, L.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Donoughue, L.
Drayson, L.
D’Souza, B.
Dubs, L.
Dundee, E.
Durham, Bp.
Dykes, L.
Eames, L.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles, V.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Elder, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.

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Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Exeter, Bp.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Finlay of Llandaff, B.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Ford, B.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Foster of Bishop Auckland, L.
Foulkes of Cumnock, L.
Fowler, L.
Gale, B.
Garden, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geddes, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Golding, B.
Goodhart, L.
Goodlad, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goschen, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Grocott, L.
Hamilton of Epsom, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Hannay of Chiswick, L.
Hanningfield, L.
Harries of Pentregarth, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Hastings of Scarisbrick, L.
Haworth, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Henig, B.
Higgins, L.
Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hooper, B.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howard of Rising, L.
Howarth of Newport, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hylton, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
James of Blackheath, L.
James of Holland Park, B.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Ewelme, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jones, L.
Jones of Cheltenham, L.
Jones of Whitchurch, B.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kilclooney, L.
Kimball, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinnock, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Kirkwood of Kirkhope, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lee of Trafford, L.
Leicester, Bp.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Lucas, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
Lyell of Markyate, L.
McAlpine of West Green, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McKenzie of Luton, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
Maclennan of Rogart, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Manchester, Bp.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Marland, L.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mawhinney, L.
Maxton, L.
May of Oxford, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Meacher, B.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mitchell, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monson, L.
Montrose, D.
Moonie, L.
Morgan, L.
Morgan of Drefelin, B.
Morgan of Huyton, B.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Bolton, B.
Morris of Handsworth, L.
Murphy, B.
Naseby, L.
Neuberger, B.
Newby, L.
Newcastle, Bp.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Northbourne, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northover, B.
Norton of Louth, L.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
O’Cathain, B.
O’Neill of Bengarve, B.
O’Neill of Clackmannan, L.
Ouseley, L.
Owen, L.
Oxburgh, L.
Palmer, L.
Parekh, L.
Patel, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Pendry, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Peston, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Plumb, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quin, B.
Quinton, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Ramsbotham, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L.
Richard, L.
Ripon and Leeds, Bp.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Roberts of Llandudno, L.
Robertson of Port Ellen, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rooker, L.
Rosser, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rowe-Beddoe, L.
Royall of Blaisdon, B.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
St. Edmundsbury and Ipswich, Bp.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Sewel, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Sheffield, Bp.
Sheikh, L.

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Sheldon, L.
Shephard of Northwold, B.
Sheppard of Didgemere, L.
Shrewsbury, E.
Simon, V.
Skelmersdale, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Finsbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Snape, L.
Soley, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Southwell and Nottingham, Bp.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stern, B.
Stevens of Kirkwhelpington, L.
Stevens of Ludgate, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Bolton, B.
Taylor of Holbeach, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Tenby, V.
Teverson, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Winchester, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trenchard, V.
Triesman, L.
Trimble, L.
Trumpington, B.
Truro, Bp.
Truscott, L.
Tunnicliffe, L.
Turnberg, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Tyler, L.
Ullswater, V.
Valentine, B.
Verma, B.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Worcester, L.
Wall of New Barnet, B.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warnock, B.
Watson of Richmond, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Whitaker, B.
Whitty, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Winchester, Bp.
Windlesham, L.
Winston, L.
Woolf, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Worcester, Bp.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young of Hornsey, B.
Young of Norwood Green, L.

Prayers were read by the Lord Bishop of St Edmundsbury and Ipswich

Public Business

1    Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act A question was asked by Lord Jenkin of Roding and answered by Lord Hunt of Kings Heath.

2    Palestine and Israel A question was asked by Lord Dykes and answered by Lord Triesman.

3    Battersea Arts Centre A question was asked by Lord Dubs and answered by Lord Evans of Temple Guiting.

4    Asylum seekers: Democratic Republic of Congo A question was asked by the Lord Bishop of Winchester and answered by Baroness Scotland of Asthal.

5    Offender Management Bill A bill to make provision about the provision of probation services, prisons and other matters relating to the management of offenders; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons. It was read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 47)

6    Offender Management Bill The Explanatory Notes on the bill were ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 47-EN)

7    Business of the House The Lord President (Baroness Amos) moved that the debates on the motions in the names of Baroness Valentine and Lord Lloyd of Berwick set down for today shall each be limited to 2½ hours. The motion was agreed to.

8    Northern Ireland Policing Board (Northern Ireland) Order 2007

9    Pension Protection Fund (Pension Compensation Cap) Order 2007

10    Occupational Pension Schemes (Levies) (Amendment) Regulations 2007

11    Occupational Pension Schemes (Levy Ceiling) Order 2007

12    Representation of the People (England and Wales) and the Representation of the People (Combination of Polls) (England and Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2007

13    Local Authorities (Mayoral Elections) (England and Wales) Regulations 2007

14    Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000 (Renewal of Temporary Provisions) Order 2007

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15    Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Modification) Order 2007

16    Social Security, Occupational Pension Schemes and Statutory Payments (Consequential Provisions) Regulations 2007

17    Social Security Contributions (Consequential Provisions) Regulations 2007

18    Social Security (Contributions) (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 2007

The Lord President (Baroness Amos) moved that the draft instruments be referred to a Grand Committee en bloc. The motion was agreed to.

19    Olympic Games 2012 (2½-hour debate) Baroness Valentine moved for papers relating to the actions needed to ensure that in staging the Olympic Games, London and the United Kingdom secure a lasting legacy of economic and social benefit. After debate, the motion was withdrawn.

20    Bosnia Herzegovina Lord Drayson repeated a ministerial statement made in the House of Commons.

21    Law reform: murder (2½-hour debate) Lord Lloyd of Berwick moved for papers relating to the report of the Law Commission on reform of the law of murder including the question of mandatory life sentences. After debate, the motion was withdrawn.

22    Parliament (Joint Departments) Bill [HL] The Lord President (Baroness Amos) moved that the bill be now read a second time. After debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

23    European Union (Information, etc.) Bill [HL] The bill was considered in Committee. Amendments were considered. The House resumed and the bill was reported without amendment.

24    Welfare Reform Bill The bill was reported from the Grand Committee with amendments. It was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 48)

The House adjourned at 6.42pm until Monday 5 March at 2.30pm

Grand Committee Business

The Grand Committee met in the Moses Room at 2.00pm

Welfare Reform Bill The Grand Committee further considered the bill, beginning with amendment 74. Amendments were agreed to. It was ordered that the bill be reported with amendments.

The Committee adjourned at 6.32pm.

Papers

All statutory instruments laid before the House are accompanied by an Explanatory Memorandum presented by command of Her Majesty, unless otherwise indicated.

Command Paper

The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty:

1    Pay Review Bodies—

    (1)    Report of the Armed Forces’ Pay Review Body.     (7016)

    (2)    Report of the Review Body on Doctors’ and Dentists’ Remuneration.     (7025)

    (3)    Report of the Review Body Nursing and Other Health Professions.     (7029)

    (4)    Report of the Prison Service Pay Review Body on England and Wales.     (7041)

    (5)    Report of the Prison Service Pay Review Body on Northern Ireland.     (7042)

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2    Salary Review Bodies—Report of the Review Body on Senior Salaries.     (7030)

Affirmative Instruments

The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by resolution:

1    Draft Local Authorities (Mayoral Elections) (England and Wales) Regulations 2007, laid under the Local Government Act 2000.

2    Draft Gambling (Geographical Distribution of Casino Premises Licenses) Order 2007, laid under the Gambling Act 2005.

Negative Instruments

The following instruments were laid before the House:

1    Home Information Pack (Redress Scheme) Order 2007, laid under the Housing Act 2004.     (560)

2    Street Works (Inspection Fees) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2007, laid under the New Roads and Street Works Act 1991.     (584)

3    Rates (Recreational Hereditaments) Order (Northern Ireland) 2007, laid under the Rates (Northern Ireland) Order 1977.

Judicial Business

1    R (on the application of Mondelly) (FC) (Appellant) v Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis (Respondent) (Criminal Appeal from Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice) The appeal of Norville Mondelly was presented and ordered to be prosecuted subject to the procedures applicable thereto.

2    R v McDaid (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division))

3    R v Clarke (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division))

The petition of the appellants praying that the appeals be consolidated; that they be allowed to lodge one statement, one case and one appendix and be jointly represented in respect of the two appeals and that the respondent be allowed to lodge one case in respect of the two appeals (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.