Select Committee on the Crossrail Bill Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 20 - 39)

  20. The Bill was introduced to the House of Commons in February of 2005. It spent some 21 months before the House of Commons Select Committee which heard 205 of the 466 Petitions lodged against the Bill. The other 261 Petitions were either withdrawn or the Petitioner chose not to appear before the Committee usually following discussion with the Promoter. A very large range of issues were raised and considered by the Commons Committee on almost every conceivable topic. The Select Committee requested various amendments to the Bill, the most significant of which were the provision for a new station at Woolwich and an additional ticket hall at Liverpool Street Station. Both of these were brought forward through additional provisions during the Committee process.

  21. The Select Committee produced two sets of interim decisions in its final report dealing with those Petitions where they thought that further action should be taken. The House of Commons Select Committee therefore gave this Bill close and detailed scrutiny.

  22. Where Petitioners petitioned in the House of Commons on the same points, and the House of Commons dealt with their Petition, then we will be drawing this, as your Lordship has requested, to the attention of the Committee. Of course the Committee cannot question the principle of the Bill approved by both the House of Commons and your Lordships' House at Second Reading. The Promoter has decided, as your Lordship has already mentioned, not to make any formal challenge to the locus of any of the Petitioners, however where we believe that the Petition raises issues which traverse the principle of the Bill or otherwise go outside the reasonable scope of petitioning on a hybrid Bill, we shall raise that in our written response to the Petitions that raise those particular issues and will inform the Committee when we open on that particular Petition. This applies particularly, for example, to those who petitioned on the basis that an alternative route for the railway is materially different from that approved by your Lordships' House and by the House of Commons at Second Reading where they contend that an alternative ought to be taken.

  23. The most significant event for the project since the introduction of the Bill in the House of Commons is that this scheme now has funding. We will refer to the funding package in due course, but the key point is that the project is now funded and ready to go once the necessary powers are secured. The Committee can amend the Bill, but any rehybridising amendment cannot be approved by this Committee without referring it back to a House of Commons Select Committee, involving the project in very long delay. Therefore, we very much hope that matters raised in Petitions before your Lordships' House can be dealt with otherwise than amending the Bill in this way.

  24. I turn then next to documents which are relevant to the Committee's deliberations. The principal documents with which the Committee will become familiar and which we will refer to during the opening and, indeed, during subsequent hearings are:

  25. (1) The Bill as amended by the other House;[4]

  26. (2) The House of Commons Select Committee report;[5]

  27. (3) The House of Commons Select Committee Interim Decisions of July 2006 and October 2007 and the Promoter's responses to those decisions;[6]

  28. (4) The Environmental Statement which consists of the original Environmental Statement and its addenda with four Amendment of Provisions Environmental Statements and four Supplementary Environmental Statements with their non-technical summaries which I will deal with in more detail later on in this opening;

  29. (5) Your Lordship has already mentioned the House of Lords Select Committee webpage, Crossrail also has a webpage which contains all of the relevant documentation in terms of the environmental assessment, the technical reports and the Information Papers.[7] I will turn to the Information Papers for a moment and your Lordship mentioned earlier the large red bundle of those. These set out the Promoter's position on a wide range of topics which are relevant to the Crossrail project. They are intended to be a useful guide to Petitioners and, indeed, to all of those who are interested in or affected by Crossrail. We will be referring to them in our communications with Petitioners;

  30. (6) We will have Petition Response Documents, PRDs for short. These are our response to matters raised in each of the individual Petitions. They are sent to the petitioners at least two weeks before they are due to appear in Committee and we aim to achieve three weeks in advance if at all possible;

  31. (7) There are environmental minimum requirements, EMRs for short, which I will deal with later;

  32. (8) The Register of Undertakings: we have compiled a register of all the undertakings and assurances that have been given. This will continue to be updated up to Royal Assent and this document aims to be a comprehensive list of undertakings so that people affected by the project can go to one document and see what undertakings they can rely upon;

  33. (9) The Statement of Reasons commended to the House of Commons by the Minister at Third Reading which is published in Command Paper 7250, which I will also return to.[8]

  34. I turn to the need and support for Crossrail.[9] As your Lordships will be aware, Crossrail is a massive project which is designed to meet the transport challenge facing London in the future. It has three key objectives: first of all, to support the development of London as a world city and its role as the financial centre of Europe and the UK; secondly, to support the economic growth of London and its regeneration areas by tackling congestion and the lack of capacity on the existing network; and, thirdly to improve rail access into and within London.

  35. The concept of an east-west across London has been around since the early 20th century. The original Crossrail concept was developed following the 1989 Central London Rail Study, carried out by the DoT and others, and the alignment was safeguarded in 1991.

  36. The current scheme has been developed by Cross London Rail Links Limited. CLRL, for short, is the company jointly owned by the Department for Transport and Transport for London that is developing the project design and is supporting the promotion of this Bill.

  37. I turn then to the transport case.[10] The need for the project is overwhelming. For many years London has mainly depended on a transport system built by the Victorians and Crossrail will allow the capital to cope with the demands of the 21st Century. The underground network suffers from overcrowding on a daily basis and all central sections of tube lines operate in excessive capacity during the morning peak and I am sure your Lordships will all have their own experiences of the current state of the network.

  38. Many of the central area stations have inadequate space to allow free and comfortable movement. Again, I am sure your Lordships will have your own experience of that too. Commuter trains on the over-ground network also suffer from overcrowding, amongst the most severe are the Great Eastern services into Liverpool Street. All these problems can only grow as the economy of London and the South East grows. In London alone employment is forecast to increase by around 636,000 to five million from 2001 to 2016 and population to increase over the same period by 800,000. Up to 48 per cent of total employment growth is expected to take place in Central London which, of course, places particular demands on public transport.

  39. Between 2001 and 2016 demand for peak travel to and from London and across the South East is forecast to increase significantly with flows into Central London during the morning rush hour, for example, rising by almost 25 per cent compared with 2001 levels. We have put up a table, if your Lordships can see, which gives some examples of crowding and crowding reduction which Crossrail will bring between 2001 and 2016.[11] I will turn to one example which is the Central Line and this applies TfL planning guideline capacity. You will see at the moment on the Stratford to Chancery Lane part of the Central Line you will see it is already 22 per cent above guideline capacity for 2001. 2016 without Crossrail will have reached the impossible position that it will be 38 per cent above planning guideline capacity, but with Crossrail the position will be redressed. It will still be above planning guideline capacity but it will be reduced to 19 per cent, less than the figure at which it exceeded guideline capacity in 2001. You can see similarly the position on the other lines.



4   Crossrail Bill [HL Bill 14 (2007-08)] Back

5   House of Commons Select Committee on the Crossrail Bill, First Special Report Session 2006-07, Crossrail Bill, HC 235 Back

6   Oral evidence taken before the House of Commons Select Committee on the Crossrail Bill on 25 July 2006, HC (2006-07) 235-IV, Ev 1555-1557; HC (2006-07) 235-V, 11 October 2006, Ev 1582-1588; 12 July 2007, Ev 2063-2066; and 9 October 2007, Ev 2067-68 Back

7   Crossrail Ref: P1, http://billdocuments.crossrail.co.uk/ (LINEWD-OPN1-005) Back

8   http://www.official-documents.gov.uk Back

9   Crossrail Ref: P1, Need and Support for Crossrail (LINEWD-OPN1-006) Back

10   Crossrail Ref: P1, Transport Case (LINEWD-OPN1-007) Back

11   Crossrail Ref: P1, Crowding reduction on the London Underground Network (2001and 2016) (LINEWD-OPN1-008) Back


 
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